19:57:11 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 19:57:11 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-wai-wcag-irc 19:57:16 rrsagent, make log world 19:57:20 meeting: WCAG 19:57:33 chair: Loretta Guarino Reid 19:57:45 agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/824e742c0809240805ud816c69o348cb99e50261e4e@mail.gmail.com 19:58:47 regrets: Alex Li, Christophe Strobbe, Drew LaHart 19:59:57 Sofia has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:25 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started 20:00:32 + +1.410.961.aaaa 20:01:25 +??P1 20:01:30 zakim, ??P1 is Roberto_Scano 20:01:30 +Roberto_Scano; got it 20:01:38 Loretta has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:47 +Cooper 20:01:47 +??P4 20:01:50 +[IBM] 20:01:52 zakim, I am Roberto_Scano 20:01:52 ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 20:01:54 +??P2 20:02:05 zakim, ??P2 is Roberto_Ellero 20:02:05 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 20:02:15 +Tim_Boland 20:02:30 +Don_Evans 20:02:34 Ben_ has joined #wai-wcag 20:02:47 +Alex_Li 20:02:49 zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver 20:02:49 +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it 20:02:55 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:03:01 thiessenp has left #wai-wcag 20:03:03 Tim has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:05 zakim, ??P4 is Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:03:05 +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it 20:03:16 zakim, Alex is Sofia_Celic 20:03:16 +Sofia_Celic; got it 20:03:27 greggvanderheiden has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:30 zakim, +1.410 is Tim_Boland 20:03:30 +Tim_Boland; got it 20:03:38 zakim, who's on the phone? 20:03:38 On the phone I see Tim_Boland.a, Roberto_Scano, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Tim_Boland, Don_Evans, Sofia_Celic, Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:03:42 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:03:47 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:51 zakim, Tim_Boland.a is Bruce_Bailey 20:03:51 +Bruce_Bailey; got it 20:06:06 +[Microsoft] 20:06:17 zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly 20:06:17 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it 20:10:19 scribe: Sofia 20:11:08 zakim, take up agendum 1 20:11:08 I see nothing on the agenda 20:12:28 TOPIC: Face to Face agenda 20:14:08 TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 2.1.1, 4.1.2: Using HTML form controls and links 20:18:25 Sofia? 20:18:51 -Sofia_Celic 20:19:02 Scribe: Gregg 20:19:21 scribe: greggvanderheiden 20:19:56 Resolution: Accept as ammended 20:20:10 TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 2.2.1: Providing a mechanism to allow user to display moving, ... 20:20:12 +klanz2 20:20:30 zakim, klanz2 is Sofia_Celic 20:20:30 +Sofia_Celic; got it 20:20:35 RESOLUTION: Accept as proposed 20:20:52 Scribe: Sofia 20:21:26 TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 2.2.1: Providing a way for the user to turn the time limit off 20:26:30 RESOLUTION: leave open 20:26:45 TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 1.3.2, 2.1.1, 2.4.3: Creating Custom Dialogs in a Device Independent Way 20:34:57 ACTION: Loretta to add explanation for keyboard trapping and dialog 20:37:36 RESOLUTION: accept as amended 20:37:43 TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 4.1.2: Using CSS to hide label elements when visible ... 20:46:59 ACTION: Gregg to bring back information about AT support for this technique and related technique for positioning off screen 20:47:37 rscano has left #wai-wcag 20:47:42 -Roberto_Scano 20:47:46 RESOLUTION: accept as amended 20:48:16 TOPIC: Test Procedure for H57: Using language attributes on the html element 20:48:31 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 20:48:49 TOPIC: Proposal to move Sufficient Technique #3 of SC 2.1.1 to advisory 20:48:59 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 20:49:17 TOPIC: Proposal to modify definition of Accessibility Support 20:49:43 RESOLUTION: leave open 20:52:58 -Bruce_Bailey 20:53:14 +??P1 20:54:09 +Bruce_Bailey 20:55:24 TOPIC: Issue 2639: G65 - editorial correction 20:56:32 David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag 20:57:02 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 20:57:15 TOPIC: Issues 2646, 2635: H44 and H65 do not seem related to 3.2.4 20:58:06 -Don_Evans 20:59:33 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/consistent-behavior-consistent-functionality.html 21:04:03 ACTION: David to draft technique "Using labels, names, and text alternatives consistently for content that has the same functionality" 21:04:47 RESOLUTION: Accept as proposed 21:05:12 TOPIC: Issue 2637: H30 examples encourage wordy links 21:05:40 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 21:06:02 TOPIC: Issue 2604: H81: Nested Lists 21:08:54 q+ 21:09:05 ack d 21:10:01 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:16:38 -Cynthia_Shelly 21:18:23 +[Microsoft] 21:20:06 -??P1 21:20:53 +??P1 21:23:49 -Tim_Boland 21:31:25 RESOLUTION: accept as amended 21:31:55 TOPIC: Issue 2628: on a full-screen window 21:32:03 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 21:32:17 TOPIC: Issue 2631: G182: will this include underlining text links 21:32:46 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 21:33:04 TOPIC: Issue 2650: F78: Overwriting default focus indicator 21:34:03 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 21:34:14 TOPIC: Issue 2632: Instances where technique G153 is not met. 21:36:12 +Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:36:48 RESOLUTION: leave open 21:37:03 TOPIC: Issue 2640: G156 should be a sufficient technique 21:37:44 RESOLUTION: accept as amended 21:38:01 TOPIC: Issue 2642: Don't make contrast conditional on font size 21:40:11 RESOLUTION: leave open 21:40:25 TOPIC: Issue 2655: Evaluating Reading Levels 21:47:25 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 21:47:36 TOPIC: Issue 2656: Editorial problems - German translation 21:48:02 -Roberto_Ellero 21:48:12 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 21:48:26 TOPIC: Issue 2645: Provide success feedback 21:49:06 RESOLUTION: accept as amended 21:49:20 TOPIC: Issue 2643: Success Criteria seem redundant, etc. 21:51:05 RESOLUTION: accept as proposed 21:51:20 TOPIC: Issue 2633: Is 3.3.1 relevant if errors are not automatically detected? 21:51:45 RESOLUTION: accept as amended 21:56:56 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 21:57:00 -[Microsoft] 21:57:02 -Bruce_Bailey 21:57:02 -??P1 21:57:04 -Sofia_Celic 21:57:04 -Cooper 21:57:06 -Andi_Snow-Weaver 21:57:12 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:57:26 Ben_ has left #wai-wcag 21:58:29 Ben has joined #wai-wcag 22:31:13 -Gregg_Vanderheiden 22:31:14 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 22:31:15 Attendees were +1.410.961.aaaa, Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Roberto_Ellero, Tim_Boland, Don_Evans, Alex_Li, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Sofia_Celic, 22:31:18 ... 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