IRC log of wai-wcag on 2008-09-25

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logging to
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rrsagent, make log world
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meeting: WCAG
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chair: Loretta Guarino Reid
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regrets: Alex Li, Christophe Strobbe, Drew LaHart
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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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+ +1.410.961.aaaa
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20:01:30 [rscano]
zakim, ??P1 is Roberto_Scano
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+Roberto_Scano; got it
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zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
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ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
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zakim, ??P2 is Roberto_Ellero
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+Roberto_Ellero; got it
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zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
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+Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
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zakim, ??P4 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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zakim, Alex is Sofia_Celic
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+Sofia_Celic; got it
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zakim, +1.410 is Tim_Boland
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+Tim_Boland; got it
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zakim, who's on the phone?
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On the phone I see Tim_Boland.a, Roberto_Scano, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Cooper, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Tim_Boland, Don_Evans, Sofia_Celic, Katie_Haritos-Shea
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zakim, Tim_Boland.a is Bruce_Bailey
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+Bruce_Bailey; got it
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zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
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+Cynthia_Shelly; got it
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scribe: Sofia
20:11:08 [Sofia]
zakim, take up agendum 1
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I see nothing on the agenda
20:12:28 [Sofia]
TOPIC: Face to Face agenda
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TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 2.1.1, 4.1.2: Using HTML form controls and links
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20:19:02 [greggvanderheiden]
Scribe: Gregg
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scribe: greggvanderheiden
20:19:56 [greggvanderheiden]
Resolution: Accept as ammended
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TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 2.2.1: Providing a mechanism to allow user to display moving, ...
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20:20:30 [MichaelC]
zakim, klanz2 is Sofia_Celic
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+Sofia_Celic; got it
20:20:35 [greggvanderheiden]
RESOLUTION: Accept as proposed
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Scribe: Sofia
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TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 2.2.1: Providing a way for the user to turn the time limit off
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RESOLUTION: leave open
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TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 1.3.2, 2.1.1, 2.4.3: Creating Custom Dialogs in a Device Independent Way
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ACTION: Loretta to add explanation for keyboard trapping and dialog
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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TOPIC: Sufficient technique for SC 4.1.2: Using CSS to hide label elements when visible ...
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ACTION: Gregg to bring back information about AT support for this technique and related technique for positioning off screen
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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TOPIC: Test Procedure for H57: Using language attributes on the html element
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Proposal to move Sufficient Technique #3 of SC 2.1.1 to advisory
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Proposal to modify definition of Accessibility Support
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RESOLUTION: leave open
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TOPIC: Issue 2639: G65 - editorial correction
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issues 2646, 2635: H44 and H65 do not seem related to 3.2.4
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20:59:33 [Loretta]
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ACTION: David to draft technique "Using labels, names, and text alternatives consistently for content that has the same functionality"
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RESOLUTION: Accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2637: H30 examples encourage wordy links
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2604: H81: Nested Lists
21:08:54 [David_MacDonald]
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ack d
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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TOPIC: Issue 2628: on a full-screen window
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2631: G182: will this include underlining text links
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2650: F78: Overwriting default focus indicator
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2632: Instances where technique G153 is not met.
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RESOLUTION: leave open
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TOPIC: Issue 2640: G156 should be a sufficient technique
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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TOPIC: Issue 2642: Don't make contrast conditional on font size
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RESOLUTION: leave open
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TOPIC: Issue 2655: Evaluating Reading Levels
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2656: Editorial problems - German translation
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2645: Provide success feedback
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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TOPIC: Issue 2643: Success Criteria seem redundant, etc.
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RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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TOPIC: Issue 2633: Is 3.3.1 relevant if errors are not automatically detected?
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RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were +1.410.961.aaaa, Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Roberto_Ellero, Tim_Boland, Don_Evans, Alex_Li, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Sofia_Celic,
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... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bruce_Bailey, Cynthia_Shelly, [Microsoft]
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