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11:55:26 <raphael> raphael has changed the topic to: W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2008-09-24
11:55:54 <Yves> trackbot, start telcon
11:55:56 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
11:55:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be n/a
11:55:58 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
11:55:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
11:55:59 <trackbot> Date: 24 September 2008
11:56:43 <raphael> zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
11:56:43 <Zakim> ok, raphael; I see IA_MFWG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
11:57:20 <raphael> The scribe list is at: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/ScribeList
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11:57:32 <raphael> We're going down the list ...
11:57:46 <raphael> ... Jack should be our next scribe, Yves on deck if Jack cannot make it
11:57:56 <raphael> ... is that ok?
11:58:07 <raphael> Chair: Erik
11:58:31 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()8:00AM has now started
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12:00:37 <raphael> zakim, aacc is raphael
12:00:38 <Zakim> +raphael; got it
12:00:50 <raphael> zakim, aaaa is davy
12:00:50 <Zakim> +davy; got it
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12:01:24 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P4 is me
12:01:24 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
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12:01:35 <mhausenblas> present+ mhausenblas
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12:02:48 <raphael> zakim, aaee is nessy
12:02:48 <Zakim> +nessy; got it
12:03:14 <raphael> zakim, aadd is vassilis
12:03:15 <Zakim> +vassilis; got it
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12:03:56 <raphael> Chair: Erik
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12:04:38 <raphael> Present+:  erik, davy, raphael, mhausenblas, nessy, Yves, vassilis
12:05:06 <Yves> Scribe: Yves
12:06:55 <Yves> Topic: minutes approval
12:07:08 <mhausenblas> +1
12:07:11 <nessy> +1
12:07:13 <Yves> Erik: comments? somebody objecting?
12:07:18 <raphael> +1
12:07:21 <davy> +1
12:07:32 <Yves> => minutes approved
12:07:50 <Yves> Please present yourself in the Wiki.
12:11:39 <Yves> next f2f: please register in http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/ 
12:12:43 <Yves> Silvia: I registered
12:12:58 <Yves> Erik: will we be able to see the results from the questionnaire?
12:13:08 <Yves> Yves: yes, there will be a consolidated page with the relevant information
12:13:20 <Yves> Raphael: the questionnaire will be closed soon
12:14:03 <Yves> end is 28 september
12:14:52 <Yves> Erik: next in f2f in ghent. there was a questionnaire, and the result was to pick 9th and 10th
12:15:04 <erik> +1
12:15:05 <Yves> Raphael: any objection with those dates?
12:15:05 <nessy> +1
12:15:08 <Vassilis> +1
12:15:09 <raphael> +1
12:15:09 <davy> +1
12:15:10 <mhausenblas> +1
12:16:16 <Yves> => resolution Ghent f2f will be 9th and 10th December
12:17:57 <Yves> meeting will be announced well in advance (wrt 8 week limit, per W3C process)
12:19:00 <Yves> Erik: there is a new Use Case page in the Wiki, with uses cases for video, audio and still images
12:20:55 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Use_Cases_%26_Requirements
12:21:42 <mhausenblas> q+
12:21:47 <nessy> q+
12:22:08 <raphael> zakim, ack mhausenblas
12:22:08 <Zakim> I see nessy on the speaker queue
12:22:43 <mhausenblas> ack me
12:23:05 <Yves> Raphael: if you need to create new pages in the wiki for the use cases, please do so (as soon as you link form the main page)
12:23:55 <mhausenblas> ack nessy
12:24:30 <Yves> Silvia: what is the aim to give people individual use cases? or should we discuss more genericly about UCs ?
12:25:21 <mhausenblas> q+
12:26:33 <Yves> Raphael: next step would be to extract requirements for our WDs
12:27:04 <nessy> ack me
12:27:09 <Yves> Erik: it will help reconcile the UCs and the spec, showing we didn't miss any requirement during the process
12:28:06 <mhausenblas> ack me
12:28:08 <Yves> Michael, as long as you are responsible of a Use Case, you will be the advocate of the UC, not that you are the sole contributor on it
12:29:32 <Vassilis> q+
12:30:21 <mhausenblas> ack Vassilis
12:30:59 <Yves> Vassilis: it would be nice to have a template for use cases, to help editors starting
12:31:14 <raphael> +1
12:32:39 <Yves> Silvia: there is one missing in the media delivery field, but the current number seems right
12:33:47 <Yves> Raphael: UCs are not independants, we will go through the whole list of UCs, discuss them, group and filter them (in case of ducplicates, specialization of UCs, etc...)
12:35:41 <Yves> Silvia: even search and serving with offset might be linked as well, so almost all UCs are linked to each other.
12:36:00 <Yves> Erik: specialized UCs of the generic ones will help discussing technical issues 
12:36:28 <mhausenblas> Michael volunteers to take lead on http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Use_Cases_%26_Requirements#Media_Linking_and_Bookmarking_UC
12:36:50 <raphael> thanks Michael
12:37:19 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Use_Cases_%26_Requirements#Media_Search_UC no volunteer
12:38:17 <Yves> Raphael: what is the Photobook UC?
12:38:42 <Yves> is the goal doing a composite image out of a collection of photo?
12:39:09 <Yves> Silvia: it's about taking sections of images, and stitch them, for example
12:39:40 <Yves> another one would be a slideshow
12:39:54 <Yves> it would be good to have clarification of the intent in the text
12:40:10 <Yves> Erik: thought more about video made out of photos
12:40:37 <Yves> Silvia: so linked to the slideshow
12:41:10 <Yves> Raphael: looks similar to what SMIL can do
12:41:52 <Yves> Erik will be responsible for the Photobook UC
12:42:18 <Yves> Silvia: SMIL can work on the slideshow part, but we still need to define fragments, right?
12:42:21 <Yves> Raphael: yes
12:43:26 <Yves> Raphael will take careof the Map Application UC
12:43:45 <Yves> Yves: the Multi Resolution UC is in the same bucket, spo it make sense to work on both of them
12:43:50 <Yves> Raphael: agreeed
12:44:21 <Yves> Moving Point of Interest.
12:44:40 <Yves> Raphael: it is something that may be in the charter but in the second part.
12:44:56 <Yves> so it's OK to work on the UC, but it won't be worked on during the first phase
12:45:18 <Yves> Silvia will take the Video/Browser UC
12:45:35 <Yves> Erik: Next week, we will try to distribute the remaining UCs
12:47:16 <Yves> We will need to look at the state of the art for every UCs
12:48:05 <Yves> look at the different existing solutions, different syntax, put examples in the wiki etc...
12:48:17 <raphael> zakim, ack vassilis
12:48:17 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
12:48:45 <mhausenblas> q+
12:49:03 <mhausenblas> ack me
12:49:16 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Glossary
12:50:17 <Yves> Raphael: from recent email exchanges, we need to work on a Glossary 
12:50:39 <Yves> we need ot agree on the terminology we use
12:50:44 <Yves> s/ot/to/
12:50:57 <Yves> Topic: AOB
12:51:48 <Yves> Raphael: we didn't give formal actions, but please edit your wiki apges, add your names to the UCs, and register to TPAC if not done !
12:52:42 <Yves> ADJOURNED
12:52:46 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
12:52:48 <Zakim> -vassilis
12:52:48 <Zakim> -nessy
12:52:50 <Zakim> -Yves
12:52:51 <Zakim> -davy
12:52:52 <Zakim> -raphael
12:52:52 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()8:00AM has ended
12:52:53 <Zakim> Attendees were +0329331aaaa, +95168aabb, +95168aacc, raphael, davy, mhausenblas, +030210772aadd, Yves, +61.2.801.2.aaee, nessy, vassilis
12:53:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
12:54:47 <raphael> ... add some topics :-)
12:55:19 <mhausenblas> cya
12:56:39 <Yves> i/ there is a new Use Case page in the Wiki/Topic: Use Cases
12:56:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
12:58:55 <Yves> i/Please present yourself in the Wiki/Topic: Actions
12:58:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
13:00:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
13:01:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/24-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
13:02:11 <RRSAgent> I see no action items