IRC log of emotion on 2008-09-18

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13:59:00 [marc]
zakim, this will be INC_EMOXG
13:59:00 [Zakim]
ok, marc; I see INC_EMOXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has now started
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+Myriam_Arrue
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+??P20
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+Felix_Burkhardt
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14:01:07 [marc]
zakim, I am ??P20
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+marc; got it
14:01:18 [felix]
zakim, I am Felix_Burkhardt
14:01:18 [Zakim]
ok, felix, I now associate you with Felix_Burkhardt
14:02:34 [Nestor]
hi
14:02:48 [Zakim]
+ +49.381.402.aaaa
14:03:42 [Christian]
zakim, I am 49.381.402.
14:03:42 [Zakim]
sorry, Christian, I do not see a party named '49.381.402'
14:04:01 [Christian]
zakim, I am aaaa
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+Christian; got it
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scribeNick: Christian
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ScribeNick: Christian
14:08:44 [marc]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Sep/0009.html
14:09:04 [Christian]
Present: Marc, Felix, Nestor, Christian
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Regrets: many
14:09:40 [felix]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Aug/0015.html
14:10:24 [felix]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-voicexml20-20040316/#dml2.3.5
14:14:48 [Christian]
Marc mentions that the examples given by Felix aren't global but rather specific to a particular annotation
14:16:50 [Christian]
example 2 is global
14:17:53 [Christian]
"global" should refer to technical settings (sensors used, software version), local circumstances (lab or outside study, temperatures...)
14:20:18 [Christian]
Marc: could we use approaches of other markup languages? RDF, EMMA?
14:20:31 [marc]
http://www.w3.org/TR/emma/#s4.1.4
14:21:50 [Christian]
Felix: suggests to discuss this in France
14:22:31 [Christian]
ACTION: Felix to send the two options to the mailing list to inform all encourage discussions beforehand
14:22:31 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-31 - Send the two options to the mailing list to inform all encourage discussions beforehand [on Felix Burkhardt - due 2008-09-25].
14:24:24 [Christian]
ACTION- 31
14:24:49 [Christian]
ACTION- 1
14:24:49 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'', Zakim. Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:25:47 [marc]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Aug/0028.html
14:27:29 [Christian]
On to sampling mechanism..
14:27:59 [marc]
<trace freq="10ms">
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0.1 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.5 0.7 0.7 0.8 0.7 0.7
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</trace>
14:29:00 [Christian]
Christian likes it
14:29:37 [Christian]
Felix: wonders if it is general enough
14:29:59 [Christian]
Marc: it is similar to the inkML approach
14:32:01 [Nestor]
I like it, but I have a question: frequency or time-period?
14:33:33 [Christian]
Christian thinks it might be usable for storing episodes in automatic analysis
14:34:02 [Christian]
Marc: asks if confidence should be in here as well and if can change as well
14:34:07 [Christian]
Christian: agrees
14:34:18 [Nestor]
I agree
14:35:19 [Christian]
Marc: is it a problem that we use plain text here within the tags?
14:35:47 [marc]
<trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
14:37:12 [Christian]
Marc: says we could do the same with confidence now
14:38:11 [marc]
<emotion>
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<dimensions>
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<arousal>
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<trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
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<confidence>
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<trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
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</confidence>
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</arousal>
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</dimensions>
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</emiotion>
14:39:24 [Christian]
Christian: like confidence ="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2?
14:40:14 [marc]
<emotion>
14:40:14 [marc]
<dimensions>
14:40:14 [marc]
<arousal>
14:40:14 [marc]
<trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2"
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confidence="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
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</arousal>
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</dimensions>
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</emiotion>
14:41:38 [Christian]
Felix: what about the confidence being equal for all the trace
14:41:52 [Christian]
Marc: it would be on the same level as arousal then
14:43:28 [Christian]
Christian: it should be okay to provide for both, confidence at the arousal level for the whole emotion, and a confidence for the specific trace values
14:43:41 [Christian]
Marc: we can discuss this detail lateron
14:43:51 [Christian]
Nestor: points out that frequency is measured in Hz, not ms
14:43:58 [Christian]
Marc: True, we have to think of a new attribute name here
14:45:58 [Christian]
Marc: suggests to have the option to use traces for any scale value in the emotion core section of the requirements
14:46:11 [Christian]
Christian likes this
14:46:32 [Christian]
for dimensions, appraisal, action tendency and intensity
14:46:51 [felix]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Aug/0024.html
14:52:16 [Christian]
discussing the Sample idea of Felix
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(Example5)
14:52:51 [Christian]
Marc: what is the time base here?
14:53:04 [Christian]
should discuss this in France as well
14:54:09 [felix]
bye
14:54:13 [Nestor]
bye
14:54:17 [Zakim]
-Felix_Burkhardt
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-Myriam_Arrue
14:56:23 [Christian]
rrsagent, make logs public
14:56:43 [Christian]
rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:43 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-emotion-minutes.html Christian
14:59:40 [Zakim]
-Christian
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-marc
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INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Myriam_Arrue, Felix_Burkhardt, marc, +49.381.402.aaaa, Christian
14:59:54 [marc]
zakim, bye
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rrsagen, bye
15:00:07 [marc]
rrsagent, bye
15:00:07 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items