13:58:52 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #emotion
13:58:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-emotion-irc
13:59:00 <marc> zakim, this will be INC_EMOXG
13:59:00 <Zakim> ok, marc; I see INC_EMOXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
13:59:11 <Christian> Christian has joined #emotion
14:00:03 <Zakim> INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:11 <Zakim> +Myriam_Arrue
14:00:16 <Zakim> +??P20
14:00:53 <Zakim> +Felix_Burkhardt
14:00:59 <Nestor> Nestor has joined #emotion
14:01:07 <marc> zakim, I am ??P20
14:01:07 <Zakim> +marc; got it
14:01:18 <felix> zakim, I am Felix_Burkhardt
14:01:18 <Zakim> ok, felix, I now associate you with Felix_Burkhardt
14:02:34 <Nestor> hi
14:02:48 <Zakim> + +49.381.402.aaaa
14:03:42 <Christian> zakim, I am 49.381.402.
14:03:42 <Zakim> sorry, Christian, I do not see a party named '49.381.402'
14:04:01 <Christian> zakim, I am aaaa
14:04:01 <Zakim> +Christian; got it
14:08:06 <Christian> scribeNick: Christian
14:08:29 <Christian> ScribeNick: Christian
14:08:44 <marc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Sep/0009.html
14:09:04 <Christian> Present: Marc, Felix, Nestor, Christian
14:09:10 <Christian> Regrets: many
14:09:40 <felix> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Aug/0015.html 
14:10:24 <felix> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-voicexml20-20040316/#dml2.3.5
14:14:48 <Christian> Marc mentions that the examples given by Felix aren't global but rather specific to a particular annotation
14:16:50 <Christian> example 2 is global
14:17:53 <Christian> "global" should refer to technical settings (sensors used, software version), local circumstances (lab or outside study, temperatures...)
14:20:18 <Christian> Marc: could we use approaches of other markup languages? RDF, EMMA?
14:20:31 <marc> http://www.w3.org/TR/emma/#s4.1.4
14:21:50 <Christian> Felix: suggests to discuss this in France
14:22:31 <Christian> ACTION: Felix to send the two options to the mailing list to inform all encourage discussions beforehand
14:22:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-31 - Send the two options to the mailing list to inform all encourage discussions beforehand [on Felix Burkhardt - due 2008-09-25].
14:24:24 <Christian> ACTION- 31
14:24:49 <Christian> ACTION- 1
14:24:49 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'you typed too many words without commas; I suspect you forgot to start with 'to ...'', Zakim.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:25:47 <marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Aug/0028.html
14:27:29 <Christian> On to sampling mechanism..
14:27:59 <marc>               <trace freq="10ms">
14:27:59 <marc>               0.1 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.5 0.7 0.7 0.8 0.7 0.7
14:28:00 <marc>               </trace>
14:29:00 <Christian> Christian likes it
14:29:37 <Christian> Felix: wonders if it is general enough
14:29:59 <Christian> Marc: it is similar to the inkML approach
14:32:01 <Nestor> I like it, but I have a question: frequency or time-period?
14:33:33 <Christian> Christian thinks it might be usable for storing episodes in automatic analysis
14:34:02 <Christian> Marc: asks if confidence should be in here as well and if can change as well
14:34:07 <Christian> Christian: agrees
14:34:18 <Nestor> I agree
14:35:19 <Christian> Marc: is it a problem that we use plain text here within the tags?
14:35:47 <marc>               <trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
14:37:12 <Christian> Marc: says we could do the same with confidence now
14:38:11 <marc> <emotion>
14:38:11 <marc>   <dimensions>
14:38:11 <marc>     <arousal>
14:38:12 <marc>        <trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
14:38:12 <marc>        <confidence>
14:38:12 <marc>          <trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
14:38:14 <marc>        </confidence>
14:38:16 <marc>      </arousal>
14:38:18 <marc>    </dimensions>
14:38:20 <marc>  </emiotion>
14:39:24 <Christian> Christian: like confidence ="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2?
14:40:14 <marc> <emotion>
14:40:14 <marc>   <dimensions>
14:40:14 <marc>     <arousal>
14:40:14 <marc>        <trace freq="100Hz" samples="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" 
14:40:15 <marc>               confidence="0.3 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.2" />
14:40:15 <marc>      </arousal>
14:40:17 <marc>    </dimensions>
14:40:19 <marc>  </emiotion>
14:41:38 <Christian> Felix: what about the confidence being equal for all the trace
14:41:52 <Christian> Marc: it would be on the same level as arousal then
14:43:28 <Christian> Christian: it should be okay to provide for both, confidence at the arousal level for the whole emotion, and a confidence for the specific trace values
14:43:41 <Christian> Marc: we can discuss this detail lateron
14:43:51 <Christian> Nestor: points out that frequency is measured in Hz, not ms
14:43:58 <Christian> Marc: True, we have to think of a new attribute name here
14:45:58 <Christian> Marc: suggests to have the option to use traces for any scale value in the emotion core section of the requirements
14:46:11 <Christian> Christian likes this
14:46:32 <Christian> for dimensions, appraisal, action tendency and intensity
14:46:51 <felix> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Aug/0024.html
14:52:16 <Christian> discussing the Sample idea of Felix
14:52:24 <Christian> (Example5)
14:52:51 <Christian> Marc: what is the time base here?
14:53:04 <Christian> should discuss this in France as well
14:54:09 <felix> bye
14:54:13 <Nestor> bye
14:54:17 <Zakim> -Felix_Burkhardt
14:54:18 <Zakim> -Myriam_Arrue
14:56:23 <Christian> rrsagent, make logs public
14:56:43 <Christian> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-emotion-minutes.html Christian
14:59:40 <Zakim> -Christian
14:59:44 <Zakim> -marc
14:59:45 <Zakim> INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has ended
14:59:46 <Zakim> Attendees were Myriam_Arrue, Felix_Burkhardt, marc, +49.381.402.aaaa, Christian
14:59:54 <marc> zakim, bye
14:59:54 <Zakim> Zakim has left #emotion
14:59:57 <marc> rrsagen, bye
15:00:07 <marc> rrsagent, bye
15:00:07 <RRSAgent> I see no action items