IRC log of mediafrag on 2008-09-17
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc
- 10:53:35 [mhausenblas]
- zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
- 10:53:35 [Zakim]
- ok, mhausenblas; I see IA_MFWG()7:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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- Meeting: W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2008-09-17
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Sep/0000.html
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- Chair: Raphael
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- ScribeNick: mhausenblas
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 10:54:54 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 10:56:39 [Zakim]
- IA_MFWG()7:00AM has now started
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- +[CWI]
- 10:56:55 [raphael]
- zakim, CWI is raphaem
- 10:56:55 [Zakim]
- +raphaem; got it
- 10:57:04 [raphael]
- zakim, raphaem is raphael
- 10:57:04 [Zakim]
- +raphael; got it
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- +Michael_Hausenblas
- 10:57:56 [Yves]
- trackbot, start telcon
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 10:57:59 [raphael]
- raphael has changed the topic to: W3C Media Fragments Working Group, telephone conference 2008-09-17
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- Zakim, this will be n/a
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 17 September 2008
- 10:59:51 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, who's here
- 10:59:51 [Zakim]
- mhausenblas, you need to end that query with '?'
- 10:59:55 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 10:59:55 [Zakim]
- I notice IA_MFWG()7:00AM has restarted
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- On the phone I see raphael, Michael_Hausenblas
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- On IRC I see erik, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, davy, mhausenblas, trackbot, Yves
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- + +0329331aaaa
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- +Yves
- 11:01:23 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, aaas is erik
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- sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'aaas'
- 11:01:28 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, aaaa is erik
- 11:01:28 [Zakim]
- +erik; got it
- 11:02:41 [nessy]
- nessy has joined #mediafrag
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- + +61.2.801.2.aabb
- 11:04:40 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, aabb is nessy
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- +nessy; got it
- 11:05:02 [nessy]
- what do you mean?
- 11:05:36 [mhausenblas]
- regrets+ Jack
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- Topic: Introduction
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- Raphael: Welcome. I and Erik will chair. Yves is the W3C team contact
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- ... we will introduce to goals and tools today
- 11:07:02 [mhausenblas]
- ... check out the WG page http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/
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- ... start introducing ourselves
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- Slyvia: Based in Australia
- 11:08:00 [Yves]
- s/Slyvia/Silvia/
- 11:08:07 [mhausenblas]
- ... developing hypervideo linking
- 11:08:26 [mhausenblas]
- ... some 15 years of experiences in the multimedia realm
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- Raphael: And Silvia is one of the IETF frag draft
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- Erik: From Belgium, lab does lot of video stuff, MPEG, etc.
- 11:10:15 [mhausenblas]
- ... metadata and feature extraction and adaptation
- 11:10:24 [mhausenblas]
- ... were members of MMSEM-XG
- 11:10:34 [mhausenblas]
- ... will co-chair with Raphael
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- Davy: PhD at the multimedia lab (at Erik's lab)
- 11:11:37 [mhausenblas]
- ... about adapting; first time in W3C
- 11:11:58 [raphael]
- Michael: working in JRS, Austria
- 11:12:08 [raphael]
- ... scalable multimedia app using SW technologies
- 11:12:30 [raphael]
- ... past member of Multimedia Semantics XG, Linked Data group
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- ... did RDFa too
- 11:13:05 [mhausenblas]
- Yves: the protocol guy
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- ... working on HTTP 1.1 updates
- 11:13:54 [mhausenblas]
- ... did annotating in RDF a long time ago ;)
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- Raphael: Post-doc at CWI
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- ... co-chair of MMSEM-XG and SWBPD-WD TF
- 11:14:48 [erik]
- q+
- 11:15:02 [mhausenblas]
- ... contributed to IPTC, MPEG and related multimedia metadata stuff
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- Erik: Missing important invited experts?
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- Raphael: We will discuss this, yes
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups.html#good-standing Good Standing participation
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- Raphael: please send regrets if you can't join
- 11:16:47 [mhausenblas]
- ... we will be strict with that
- 11:16:49 [Yves]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/ is a good reading, especially for document transitions requirements
- 11:17:05 [mhausenblas]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-fragments-wg.html Charter
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- Raphael: Silvia is one invited expert
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- ... Wolfgang Jochum (Austria) can join
- 11:17:57 [erik]
- q+
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- Erik: Overlap with Media Annotation WG?
- 11:18:44 [mhausenblas]
- ... should be join in both directions
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 11:19:20 [nessy]
- q+
- 11:19:50 [mhausenblas]
- ... yes, increase industrial part
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- Silvia: I know someone at Youtube
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- ... I'll contact the person
- 11:22:32 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Yves to contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week
- 11:22:32 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1 - Contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [on Yves Lafon - due 2008-09-24].
- 11:22:50 [mhausenblas]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 11:23:20 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Seven or more participants are expected
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- Topic: Future Meetings
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- Raphael: Weekly telecon
- 11:24:14 [mhausenblas]
- ... 11:00UTC fine?
- 11:24:56 [mhausenblas]
- propose 12:00UTC on Wednsday
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- +1
- 11:24:57 [erik]
- +1
- 11:25:00 [davy]
- +1
- 11:25:03 [nessy]
- +1
- 11:25:05 [Yves]
- => 8AM boston time
- 11:25:33 [mhausenblas]
- RESOLVED Weekly MediaFrag Telecon will be on Wednsday at 12:00UTC
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- Raphael: F2F
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- q+
- 11:26:00 [mhausenblas]
- ... first F2F during TPAC
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- ... please register ASAP for TPAC
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- ... who will attend
- 11:26:28 [erik]
- +1
- 11:26:37 [davy]
- I will
- 11:26:38 [nessy]
- uncertain
- 11:26:45 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: online IRC and phone
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- Raphael: I'll be there
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- will know before 20th
- 11:27:31 [mhausenblas]
- Erik: Second F2F
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- s/Wednsday/Wednesday
- 11:28:31 [mhausenblas]
- ... can provide rooms at our place 8 Dec
- 11:29:25 [mhausenblas]
- ACTION: Yves to set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec)
- 11:29:25 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2 - Set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [on Yves Lafon - due 2008-09-24].
- 11:29:40 [mhausenblas]
- s/seond/second
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- Raphael: quck poll - any problems?
- 11:30:06 [erik]
- +1
- 11:30:09 [mhausenblas]
- Michael ok
- 11:30:12 [davy]
- ok
- 11:30:44 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: the third F2F likely in Korea
- 11:30:55 [erik]
- q+
- 11:31:19 [mhausenblas]
- Yves prefers Tuesday to Wednesday
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- Erik: Currently rooms are reserved for Mo/Tue
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- ... I'll take care of this
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- Topic: Working Group Tools
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- Raphael: number of tools to support the telecons on IRC/phone
- 11:32:56 [mhausenblas]
- ... have a look at the bot descriptions and instructions to support scribing
- 11:33:43 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: srcibe will rotate, starting with more experienced ones
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- ... further there is the issue and action tracker
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- ... and the WG Wiki
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- ... you need to create Wiki accounts yourself
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- ... chairs will assign access right based on that
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- Raphael: I'll initially fill in some pieces in the Wiki
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- Topic: Goals & Objectives
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- Raphael: Overall goal is the specification and deployment of temporal and simple spatial media fragment URIs.
- 11:36:13 [mhausenblas]
- ... we have committed to deliver some documents
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- ... first will be a use case and req
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- ... second one will be the actual spec (REC)
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- ... tough scheduling
- 11:37:24 [mhausenblas]
- ... we will go Rec-Track (from WD over Last Call to CR and PR to REC)
- 11:37:46 [mhausenblas]
- ... have a look at the relevant background resources
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- ... our immediate first goal is to get a first draft of the UC document
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- ACTION: All to write up use cases by editing the Wiki and report it to the list
- 11:39:14 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - All
- 11:39:51 [nessy]
- q+
- 11:40:09 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: How to deal with the requirements?
- 11:40:32 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Interdependent issues (UC and requirements)
- 11:41:04 [mhausenblas]
- Silvia: Question re scheduling
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- ... I thought Novemeber?
- 11:41:49 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Sure we try to stick with the schedule, so, yes the main reason is the F2F
- 11:42:25 [erik]
- no q's at the moment
- 11:42:45 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: To sum up, edit Wiki (account, profile and UC)
- 11:44:00 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: What we don't want to do is to specify a way to address spatio-temporal region in XML, etc (like in SMIL, MPEG-7, etc.) BUT in the URI
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- ... but provide transformation rules to convert from to URI format
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- Topic: AOB
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- q+
- 11:45:16 [mhausenblas]
- Silvia: Re industry participation in this WG
- 11:45:30 [mhausenblas]
- ... have we talked to MS, Real Networks, Adobe, etc?
- 11:46:31 [mhausenblas]
- Yves: We do have contacts (via Philippe - MS)
- 11:46:44 [mhausenblas]
- ... we will work on this
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 11:47:39 [mhausenblas]
- Raphael: Companies such as Apple and Adobe have shown interest, however
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- ... TPAC will be a great chance to talk to people F2F
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- Raphael: thanks all, next week 12:00CET
- 11:48:54 [mhausenblas]
- ... minutes will be sent out for review
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- ... hear you next week
- 11:49:09 [Zakim]
- -Yves
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- -Michael_Hausenblas
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- -nessy
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- -erik
- 11:49:12 [Zakim]
- -raphael
- 11:49:13 [mhausenblas]
- [adjourned]
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- IA_MFWG()7:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were raphael, Michael_Hausenblas, +0329331aaaa, Yves, erik, +61.2.801.2.aabb, nessy
- 11:49:17 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
- 11:49:21 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, list attendees
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- sorry, mhausenblas, I don't know what conference this is
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- Zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Yves to contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc#T11-22-32
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- ACTION: Yves to set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc#T11-29-25
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- ACTION: All to write up use cases by editing the Wiki and report it to the list [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc#T11-39-14