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10:53:35 <mhausenblas> zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
10:53:35 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas; I see IA_MFWG()7:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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10:54:03 <mhausenblas> Meeting: W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2008-09-17
10:54:10 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Sep/0000.html
10:54:33 <mhausenblas> Chair: Raphael
10:54:39 <mhausenblas> ScribeNick: mhausenblas
10:54:45 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
10:54:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
10:54:54 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
10:56:39 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()7:00AM has now started
10:56:47 <Zakim> +[CWI]
10:56:55 <raphael> zakim, CWI is raphaem
10:56:55 <Zakim> +raphaem; got it
10:57:04 <raphael> zakim, raphaem is raphael
10:57:04 <Zakim> +raphael; got it
10:57:16 <Zakim> +Michael_Hausenblas
10:57:56 <Yves> trackbot, start telcon
10:57:58 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
10:57:59 <raphael> raphael has changed the topic to: W3C Media Fragments Working Group, telephone conference 2008-09-17
10:58:00 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be n/a
10:58:00 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
10:58:01 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
10:58:01 <trackbot> Date: 17 September 2008
10:59:51 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here
10:59:51 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you need to end that query with '?'
10:59:55 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
10:59:55 <Zakim> I notice IA_MFWG()7:00AM has restarted
10:59:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see raphael, Michael_Hausenblas
10:59:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see erik, RRSAgent, Zakim, raphael, davy, mhausenblas, trackbot, Yves
11:01:01 <Zakim> + +0329331aaaa
11:01:01 <Zakim> +Yves
11:01:23 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaas is erik
11:01:23 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'aaas'
11:01:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is erik
11:01:28 <Zakim> +erik; got it
11:02:41 <nessy> nessy has joined #mediafrag
11:04:07 <Zakim> + +61.2.801.2.aabb
11:04:40 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb is nessy
11:04:40 <Zakim> +nessy; got it
11:05:02 <nessy> what do you mean?
11:05:36 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Jack
11:05:55 <mhausenblas> Topic: Introduction
11:06:27 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Welcome. I and Erik will chair. Yves is the W3C team contact
11:06:46 <mhausenblas> ... we will introduce to goals and tools today
11:07:02 <mhausenblas> ... check out the WG page http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/
11:07:15 <mhausenblas> ... start introducing ourselves
11:07:41 <mhausenblas> Slyvia: Based in Australia
11:08:00 <Yves> s/Slyvia/Silvia/
11:08:07 <mhausenblas> ... developing hypervideo linking
11:08:26 <mhausenblas> ... some 15 years of experiences in the multimedia realm
11:08:50 <mhausenblas> Raphael: And Silvia is one of the IETF frag draft
11:09:41 <mhausenblas> Erik: From Belgium, lab does lot of video stuff, MPEG, etc.
11:10:15 <mhausenblas> ... metadata and feature extraction and adaptation
11:10:24 <mhausenblas> ... were members of MMSEM-XG
11:10:34 <mhausenblas> ... will co-chair with Raphael
11:11:17 <mhausenblas> Davy: PhD at the multimedia lab (at Erik's lab)
11:11:37 <mhausenblas> ... about adapting; first time in W3C
11:11:58 <raphael> Michael: working in JRS, Austria
11:12:08 <raphael> ... scalable multimedia app using SW technologies
11:12:30 <raphael> ... past member of Multimedia Semantics XG, Linked Data group
11:12:36 <raphael> ... did RDFa too
11:13:05 <mhausenblas> Yves: the protocol guy
11:13:13 <mhausenblas> ... working on HTTP 1.1 updates
11:13:54 <mhausenblas> ... did annotating in RDF a long time ago ;)
11:14:13 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Post-doc at CWI
11:14:35 <mhausenblas> ... co-chair of MMSEM-XG and SWBPD-WD TF
11:14:48 <erik> q+
11:15:02 <mhausenblas> ... contributed to IPTC, MPEG and related multimedia metadata stuff
11:15:43 <mhausenblas> Erik: Missing important invited experts?
11:16:02 <mhausenblas> Raphael: We will discuss this, yes
11:16:21 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups.html#good-standing Good Standing participation
11:16:39 <mhausenblas> Raphael: please send regrets if you can't join
11:16:47 <mhausenblas> ... we will be strict with that
11:16:49 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/ is a good reading, especially for document transitions requirements
11:17:05 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-fragments-wg.html Charter
11:17:27 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Silvia is one invited expert
11:17:40 <mhausenblas> ... Wolfgang Jochum (Austria) can join
11:17:57 <erik> q+
11:18:26 <mhausenblas> Erik: Overlap with Media Annotation WG?
11:18:44 <mhausenblas> ... should be join in both directions
11:19:15 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
11:19:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
11:19:20 <nessy> q+
11:19:50 <mhausenblas> ... yes, increase industrial part
11:21:06 <mhausenblas> Silvia: I know someone at Youtube
11:21:25 <mhausenblas> ... I'll contact the person
11:22:32 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Yves to contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week
11:22:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [on Yves Lafon - due 2008-09-24].
11:22:50 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
11:22:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
11:23:20 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Seven or more participants are expected
11:23:30 <mhausenblas> Topic: Future Meetings
11:23:43 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Weekly telecon
11:24:14 <mhausenblas> ... 11:00UTC fine?
11:24:56 <mhausenblas> propose 12:00UTC on Wednsday
11:24:57 <mhausenblas> +1
11:24:57 <erik> +1
11:25:00 <davy> +1
11:25:03 <nessy> +1
11:25:05 <Yves> => 8AM boston time
11:25:33 <mhausenblas> RESOLVED Weekly MediaFrag Telecon will be on Wednsday at 12:00UTC
11:25:49 <mhausenblas> Raphael: F2F
11:25:49 <erik> q+
11:26:00 <mhausenblas> ... first F2F during TPAC
11:26:23 <mhausenblas> ... please register ASAP for TPAC
11:26:28 <mhausenblas> ... who will attend
11:26:28 <erik> +1
11:26:37 <davy> I will
11:26:38 <nessy> uncertain
11:26:45 <mhausenblas> Michael: online IRC and phone
11:27:08 <mhausenblas> Raphael: I'll be there
11:27:11 <nessy> will know before 20th
11:27:31 <mhausenblas> Erik: Second F2F
11:28:24 <raphael> s/Wednsday/Wednesday
11:28:31 <mhausenblas> ... can provide rooms at our place 8 Dec
11:29:25 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Yves to set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec)
11:29:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [on Yves Lafon - due 2008-09-24].
11:29:40 <mhausenblas> s/seond/second
11:30:00 <mhausenblas> Raphael: quck poll - any problems?
11:30:06 <erik> +1
11:30:09 <mhausenblas> Michael ok
11:30:12 <davy> ok
11:30:44 <mhausenblas> Raphael: the third F2F likely in Korea
11:30:55 <erik> q+
11:31:19 <mhausenblas> Yves prefers Tuesday to Wednesday
11:31:44 <mhausenblas> Erik: Currently rooms are reserved for Mo/Tue
11:31:51 <mhausenblas> ... I'll take care of this
11:32:01 <mhausenblas> Topic: Working Group Tools
11:32:30 <mhausenblas> Raphael: number of tools to support the telecons on IRC/phone
11:32:56 <mhausenblas> ... have a look at the bot descriptions and instructions to support scribing
11:33:43 <mhausenblas> Raphael: srcibe will rotate, starting with more experienced ones
11:33:58 <mhausenblas> ... further there is the issue and action tracker
11:34:09 <mhausenblas> ... and the WG Wiki
11:34:26 <mhausenblas> ... you need to create Wiki accounts yourself
11:34:39 <mhausenblas> ... chairs will assign access right based on that
11:35:19 <mhausenblas> Raphael: I'll initially fill in some pieces in the Wiki
11:35:25 <mhausenblas> Topic: Goals & Objectives
11:35:47 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Overall goal is the specification and deployment of temporal and simple spatial media fragment URIs.
11:36:13 <mhausenblas> ... we have committed to deliver some documents
11:36:25 <mhausenblas> ... first will be a use case and req
11:36:39 <mhausenblas> ... second one will be the actual spec (REC)
11:36:52 <mhausenblas> ... tough scheduling
11:37:24 <mhausenblas> ... we will go Rec-Track (from WD over Last Call to CR and PR to REC)
11:37:46 <mhausenblas> ... have a look at the relevant background resources
11:38:07 <mhausenblas> ... our immediate first goal is to get a first draft of the UC document
11:39:14 <mhausenblas> ACTION: All to write up use cases by editing the Wiki and report it to the list
11:39:14 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - All
11:39:51 <nessy> q+
11:40:09 <mhausenblas> Michael: How to deal with the requirements?
11:40:32 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Interdependent issues (UC and requirements)
11:41:04 <mhausenblas> Silvia: Question re scheduling
11:41:12 <mhausenblas> ... I thought Novemeber?
11:41:49 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Sure we try to stick with the schedule, so, yes the main reason is the F2F
11:42:25 <erik> no q's at the moment
11:42:45 <mhausenblas> Raphael: To sum up, edit Wiki (account, profile and UC)
11:44:00 <mhausenblas> Raphael: What we don't want to do is to specify a way to address spatio-temporal region in XML, etc (like in SMIL, MPEG-7, etc.) BUT in the URI
11:44:29 <mhausenblas> ... but provide transformation rules to convert from to URI format
11:44:33 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB
11:44:47 <nessy> q+
11:45:16 <mhausenblas> Silvia: Re industry participation in this WG
11:45:30 <mhausenblas> ... have we talked to MS, Real Networks, Adobe, etc?
11:46:31 <mhausenblas> Yves: We do have contacts (via Philippe -  MS)
11:46:44 <mhausenblas> ... we will work on this
11:46:55 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
11:46:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
11:47:39 <mhausenblas> Raphael: Companies such as Apple and Adobe have shown interest, however
11:48:12 <mhausenblas> ... TPAC will be a great chance to talk to people F2F
11:48:45 <mhausenblas> Raphael: thanks all, next week 12:00CET
11:48:54 <mhausenblas> ... minutes will be sent out for review
11:49:03 <mhausenblas> ... hear you next week
11:49:09 <Zakim> -Yves
11:49:10 <Zakim> -Michael_Hausenblas
11:49:11 <Zakim> -nessy
11:49:12 <Zakim> -erik
11:49:12 <Zakim> -raphael
11:49:13 <mhausenblas> [adjourned]
11:49:13 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()7:00AM has ended
11:49:15 <Zakim> Attendees were raphael, Michael_Hausenblas, +0329331aaaa, Yves, erik, +61.2.801.2.aabb, nessy
11:49:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
11:49:21 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list attendees
11:49:21 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I don't know what conference this is
11:49:39 <mhausenblas> Zakim, bye
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11:49:55 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, bye
11:49:55 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-actions.rdf :
11:49:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [1]
11:49:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc#T11-22-32
11:49:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [2]
11:49:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc#T11-29-25
11:49:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: All to write up use cases by editing the Wiki and report it to the list [3]
11:49:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc#T11-39-14