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14:03:18 <Zakim> +Felix
14:03:20 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:03:22 <Zakim> +Richard
14:03:22 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
14:03:35 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
14:03:35 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
14:03:36 <Zakim> -Richard
14:03:40 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group
14:03:45 <r12a> zakim, dial richard-home
14:03:45 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:03:46 <aphillip> Chair:   Addison Phillips
14:03:46 <Zakim> +Richard
14:03:52 <aphillip> Scribe:  Addison Phillips
14:03:57 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:04:04 <aphillip> Agenda:  http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Homework
14:04:23 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:04:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-core-minutes.html aphillip
14:05:59 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes and Agenda review
14:06:26 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
14:07:09 <aphillip> Andrew to continue work on What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? 
14:07:23 <aphillip> Addison: write basic outline in wiki for a note on case folding 
14:08:12 <aphillip> all: review powder section on IRI for upcoming call 
14:08:44 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
14:09:01 <aphillip> norbert: going to TPAC
14:09:04 <aphillip> (yay)
14:09:30 <aphillip> david: yes, addison: no, richard+felix: yes
14:09:49 <aphillip> kobayashi (jltf): yes
14:10:16 <aphillip> richard: topics to discuss before we get there
14:10:46 <aphillip> agenda topics to discuss tpac in next call
14:12:32 <aphillip> dial-in bridge for tpac?
14:13:14 <andrewc> yes
14:13:22 <andrewc> if posisble
14:13:36 <aphillip> looks like we will
14:14:21 <aphillip> richard: trying to get junkshik shin to participate; he's busy with chrome
14:14:32 <aphillip> .... but now we know who to talk to about webkit/chrome :-)
14:14:57 <aphillip> ... planning to work on setting default fonts for specific unicode ranges
14:15:07 <aphillip> ... do it the IE way
14:15:29 <andrewc> hopefully better than the IE way
14:15:36 <aphillip> ... rather than FF way
14:15:58 <aphillip> ... user cusomtisable: yes, by script
14:16:26 <andrewc> IE customisable by most scripts not all scripts
14:16:51 <aphillip> "chinese" vs. "japanese", etc.
14:17:01 <aphillip> doesn't quite follow the script or the language; it's a mix
14:17:17 <aphillip> and not a full list
14:17:18 <Zakim> -??P10
14:17:26 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
14:17:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P9, Richard, Addison_Phillips, Felix, Yves_Savourel
14:17:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip, David, fsasaki, Zakim, r12a, andrewc, YvesS
14:18:01 <Zakim> +??P10
14:18:10 <aphillip> richard: rewrote the webfonts
14:18:20 <aphillip> zakim, ??P10 is David
14:18:20 <Zakim> +David; got it
14:18:40 <aphillip> ... added a note to say "please download the font before running test"
14:18:45 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/test-webfonts-1
14:18:47 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/test-webfonts-2
14:18:56 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:18:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-core-minutes.html aphillip
14:19:08 <aphillip> ... will publish results soon
14:19:43 <aphillip> addison: > SVG Tiny 1.2 LC
14:20:14 <aphillip> ... any volunteers to review
14:20:28 <aphillip> ACTION: Felix: review SVG Tiny 1.2 LC
14:20:38 <aphillip> addison: > URI Templates
14:21:46 <aphillip> something that looks like http://example.org/{userid}
14:23:01 <aphillip> {a}{b}
14:23:03 <aphillip> a=e
14:23:07 <aphillip> b=\u0301
14:23:37 <aphillip> richard: case sensitivity?
14:24:08 <aphillip> ... should that be in charmod-resid
14:24:27 <aphillip> (addison ponders his case foldeing AI)
14:24:37 <aphillip> addison: > Membership
14:26:15 <aphillip> please encourage people to join us
14:26:40 <aphillip> best if they are member employees
14:27:12 <aphillip> richard: bohdan might get some people to join
14:28:00 <aphillip> richard: JLTF document is nearing the point where we will start getting it into better editorial shape; richard may assist in doing that
14:28:07 <aphillip> ... hoping to get another version before TPAC
14:28:16 <aphillip> felix: plan is to hand it over to richard next week
14:28:30 <aphillip> ... doc consists of intro section, plus two more sectrions
14:28:36 <aphillip> ... section 3 is moribund for now
14:29:05 <aphillip> ... section 3 is about positioning figures (block objects)
14:29:21 <aphillip> ... section 1 is basic concepts
14:29:30 <aphillip> ... section 2 specifics, esp. for vertical text
14:29:53 <aphillip> ... if good outcome, maybe have another phase to do more work next year
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14:31:27 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
14:31:57 <fsasaki> topic: Unicode conference review
14:32:28 <fsasaki> addison: Richard and Addison did tutorials and presentations
14:32:43 <fsasaki> .. attendance was a bit down but still good
14:32:48 <Zakim> -David
14:33:23 <fsasaki> .. did recruting, had presentation about ws-i18n, might lead to more participation here
14:33:37 <fsasaki> .. see my presentations linked from interlocale web site
14:35:35 <fsasaki> addison: one presentation about IDNA and relation to indian languages, was great
14:36:28 <fsasaki> richard: yes. In India lots of characters which look identical
14:37:23 <fsasaki> .. even in the same script
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14:38:06 <fsasaki> scribe: aphillip
14:38:38 <aphillip> discussion of the indic presentation on idna problems
14:42:27 <r12a> http://jdlh.com/en/doc/2008/unicode_doggerel.html
14:44:00 <r12a> http://i18ngal.blogspot.com/
14:49:49 <fsasaki> topic: XML Schema 1.1 comments
14:49:55 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2008Sep/0002.html
14:50:22 <fsasaki> discussion on renaming of character blocks, with following action as result:
14:51:07 <fsasaki> action: Addison to ask UTC that character blocks names will be made stable. 
14:51:34 <fsasaki> After that, Felix will go back to XML Schema people to argue that blocks are now stable, so no need to have a specific version of the UCD, and the benefit of allowing new characters
14:55:30 <fsasaki> on XML 1.0 5th edition comment, XML Schema people refused to drop the reference to XML 1.1
14:55:44 <fsasaki> addison: we come back to them then XML 1.0 5th edition is approved
14:58:10 <fsasaki> topic: font tests
14:58:28 <fsasaki> richard asks for people to help with font testing on various platforms
15:01:29 <Zakim> -Addison_Phillips
15:01:30 <Zakim> -Felix
15:01:31 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
15:01:32 <Zakim> -Richard
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15:01:34 <Zakim> Attendees were Richard, Addison_Phillips, Felix, Yves_Savourel, David
15:01:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-core-minutes.html fsasaki
15:01:59 <fsasaki> present: Addison, Dave, Richard, Yves, Felix
15:02:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-core-minutes.html fsasaki
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