IRC log of tsdtf on 2008-09-16
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- 12:22:40 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #tsdtf
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc
- 12:22:52 [Christophe]
- Zakim, what conferences?
- 12:22:52 [Zakim]
- I see UW_Team()8:00AM active
- 12:22:54 [Zakim]
- also scheduled at this time are ARCH_Team()8:00AM, WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM, IA_CDFWG()8:30AM
- 12:23:05 [Christophe]
- zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
- 12:23:05 [Zakim]
- ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
- 12:23:12 [Christophe]
- Meeting: TSD TF
- 12:23:37 [Christophe]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Sep/0003.html
- 12:23:49 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Announcements etc.
- 12:24:01 [Christophe]
- agenda+ Reviews of test samples: current status
- 12:24:09 [Christophe]
- agenda+ Tools needed for future progress (including Wiki migration)
- 12:24:18 [MikeS]
- MikeS has joined #tsdtf
- 12:24:29 [Christophe]
- Chair: CarlosV, Christophe
- 12:26:26 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
- 12:26:33 [Zakim]
- + +1.512.823.aaaa
- 12:27:25 [MikeS]
- zakim, 1.512.823.aaaa is MikeS
- 12:27:25 [Zakim]
- sorry, MikeS, I do not recognize a party named '1.512.823.aaaa'
- 12:27:47 [MikeS]
- zakim, +1.512.823.aaaa is MikeS
- 12:27:47 [Zakim]
- +MikeS; got it
- 12:28:04 [shadi]
- zakim, code?
- 12:28:04 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 8783 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
- 12:28:49 [Zakim]
- +??P1
- 12:28:54 [Zakim]
- +Christophe_Strobbe
- 12:28:59 [shadi]
- zakim, ? is me
- 12:28:59 [Zakim]
- +shadi; got it
- 12:31:38 [Tim]
- Tim has joined #tsdtf
- 12:32:16 [Zakim]
- +Tim_Boland
- 12:32:30 [MichaelC]
- MichaelC has joined #tsdtf
- 12:32:47 [Zakim]
- +Cooper
- 12:32:59 [velasco]
- velasco has joined #tsdtf
- 12:33:40 [Zakim]
- -shadi
- 12:34:26 [Zakim]
- +??P1
- 12:34:27 [shadi]
- zakim, ? is me
- 12:34:27 [Zakim]
- +shadi; got it
- 12:34:49 [Zakim]
- +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
- 12:35:38 [velasco]
- zakim, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas is really CarlosV
- 12:35:38 [Zakim]
- sorry, velasco, I do not recognize a party named 'Klaus/Johannes/Thomas'
- 12:36:10 [velasco]
- zakim, Klaus is really CarlosV
- 12:36:19 [Zakim]
- -shadi
- 12:36:33 [carlosI]
- carlosI has joined #tsdtf
- 12:36:59 [Zakim]
- +??P1
- 12:37:00 [shadi]
- zakim, ? is me
- 12:37:01 [Zakim]
- +shadi; got it
- 12:37:24 [Zakim]
- -shadi
- 12:37:33 [Zakim]
- +??P8
- 12:37:34 [Zakim]
- -Cooper
- 12:37:36 [Zakim]
- -Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
- 12:37:59 [Zakim]
- + +1.617.324.aabb
- 12:38:00 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 12:38:25 [shadi]
- zakim, ipcaller is CarlosI
- 12:38:25 [Zakim]
- +CarlosI; got it
- 12:38:37 [Zakim]
- +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
- 12:39:00 [velasco]
- zakim, Klaus is really CarlosV
- 12:39:22 [shadi]
- can you hear me?
- 12:39:28 [Christophe]
- No.
- 12:39:35 [shadi]
- wow, i can hear you
- 12:39:39 [shadi]
- stealth mode
- 12:39:41 [Christophe]
- zakim, who is on the call?
- 12:39:41 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, ??P8, Michael_Cooper, CarlosI, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
- 12:39:45 [Zakim]
- -CarlosI
- 12:40:20 [Christophe]
- Shadi, how's that W3C spec for telepathy coming along?
- 12:40:38 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 12:40:49 [Christophe]
- zakim, who is on the call?
- 12:40:49 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, CarlosI, Michael_Cooper, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, [IPcaller]
- 12:41:06 [Zakim]
- -[IPcaller]
- 12:41:06 [velasco]
- zakim, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas is really CarlosV
- 12:41:14 [Christophe]
- zakim, Klaus is really CarlosV
- 12:41:14 [Zakim]
- +CarlosV; got it
- 12:41:28 [Zakim]
- +Shadi
- 12:41:47 [Christophe]
- zakim, who is on the call?
- 12:41:47 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, CarlosI, Michael_Cooper, CarlosV, Shadi
- 12:42:54 [shadi]
- scribe: Shadi
- 12:43:07 [shadi]
- agenda?
- 12:43:26 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 12:43:26 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Announcements etc." taken up [from Christophe]
- 12:44:04 [shadi]
- CS: Katholik University Leuven, member of WCAG WG, also previously with BenToWeb
- 12:44:26 [shadi]
- CV: FIT, also with BenToWeb, develop a tool called Imergo
- 12:44:56 [shadi]
- TB: NIST, WCAG, PFWG, ATAG, also in the OASIS Test Assertion
- 12:45:21 [shadi]
- MS: from IBM, with ERT WG, was previously with PFWG and ATAG
- 12:45:31 [shadi]
- MC: staff contact for WCAG WG PFWG
- 12:45:56 [shadi]
- SAZ: staff contact for ERT WG and this TF
- 12:46:33 [shadi]
- CI: member of ERT WG, work for CTIC in Spain, focus on Web standards and accessibility, also on public administration
- 12:47:57 [shadi]
- SAZ: anyone attending the W3C Technical Plenary?
- 12:48:02 [shadi]
- [nobody]
- 12:48:34 [shadi]
- SAZ: ERT WG will be having f2f meeting from 6-7 November, anyone from this group is welcome to attend
- 12:49:08 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 12:49:08 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Reviews of test samples: current status" taken up [from Christophe]
- 12:49:49 [shadi]
- CS: we reviewing test samples before our summer break
- 12:50:03 [shadi]
- ...had feedback on some of the reviews
- 12:50:16 [shadi]
- ...did the changes and need to reevaluate
- 12:50:39 [shadi]
- TB: did changes and send notified the group
- 12:51:33 [Christophe]
- last update on test sample review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Aug/0000.html
- 12:53:33 [Christophe]
- Status List: http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/TestSampleStatusList
- 12:54:06 [shadi]
- SAZ: need a WBS to take vote of the group
- 12:55:17 [shadi]
- action: shadi to send out WBS for the existing test samples (001-037)
- 12:55:18 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-10 - Send out WBS for the existing test samples (001-037) [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-09-23].
- 12:55:42 [Christophe]
- Results of previous survey (mid July): http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42683/batch1/results
- 12:56:07 [shadi]
- SAZ: should distribute 038-049 among ourselves
- 12:57:22 [shadi]
- action: CarlosI to do reviews for 041-042
- 12:57:22 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - CarlosI
- 12:57:58 [carlosI]
- action: ciglesia to do reviews for 041-042
- 12:57:59 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-11 - Do reviews for 041-042 [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-09-23].
- 12:59:15 [shadi]
- action: msuuilla to do reviews for 044-045
- 12:59:15 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - msuuilla
- 12:59:20 [shadi]
- action: msquilla to do reviews for 044-045
- 12:59:20 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - msquilla
- 12:59:29 [MikeS]
- msquilla
- 12:59:40 [shadi]
- action: Mike to do reviews for 044-045
- 12:59:40 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - Mike
- 12:59:58 [shadi]
- action: Shadi to do reviews for 046-047
- 12:59:58 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-12 - Do reviews for 046-047 [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-09-23].
- 13:00:31 [shadi]
- action: cstrobbe to provide more test samples for review
- 13:00:32 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-13 - Provide more test samples for review [on Christophe Strobbe - due 2008-09-23].
- 13:01:30 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 13:01:30 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Tools needed for future progress (including Wiki migration)" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:03:25 [shadi]
- SAZ: need to follow-up with system team about wiki
- 13:03:46 [shadi]
- ...but wondering if we should take the opportunity to jump over to other tools
- 13:03:57 [shadi]
- CS: Bugzilla?
- 13:04:25 [shadi]
- MC: not necessary, maybe some form of database for the test cases
- 13:04:36 [shadi]
- ...PFWG also interested in a solution
- 13:05:03 [shadi]
- CS: we store information in the XML and in the wiki
- 13:05:43 [shadi]
- ...need to be able to have a link to the HTML metadata
- 13:05:57 [shadi]
- MC: should be fine using an XSLT
- 13:08:17 [shadi]
- SAZ: Web interface should be fairly simple - already existing requirements
- 13:08:48 [shadi]
- ...MC already knows how to use XSLT and set up databases at W3C
- 13:10:17 [shadi]
- MC: need a design process
- 13:13:56 [shadi]
- SAZ: potentially possible to do a f2f prior to the ERT f2f?
- 13:14:20 [shadi]
- MC: some people could
- 13:15:38 [shadi]
- [potential TF f2f on 5th November]
- 13:17:27 [Christophe]
- BenToWeb 3rd test suite (static table): http://www.bentoweb.org/XHTML1_TestSuite3
- 13:18:03 [Christophe]
- Previous state of TSD TF test samples (sortable table): http://tinyurl.com/ynu7q4
- 13:20:46 [shadi]
- CS: can start some thoughts by mail
- 13:21:07 [shadi]
- SAZ: could create a Web page under /WAI/ER/tests to collect any requirements
- 13:21:47 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
- 13:21:49 [MikeS]
- m/exit
- 13:21:50 [shadi]
- NEXT MEETING: 30 September 2008
- 13:21:51 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Cooper
- 13:21:52 [Zakim]
- -CarlosV
- 13:21:56 [Zakim]
- -Christophe_Strobbe
- 13:21:58 [Zakim]
- -CarlosI
- 13:21:59 [velasco]
- velasco has left #tsdtf
- 13:22:01 [Zakim]
- -Shadi
- 13:22:03 [Zakim]
- -MikeS
- 13:22:03 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
- 13:22:06 [Zakim]
- Attendees were MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, shadi, Tim_Boland, Cooper, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, +1.617.324.aabb, Michael_Cooper, CarlosI, [IPcaller], CarlosV
- 13:22:57 [shadi]
- zakim, bye
- 13:22:57 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #tsdtf
- 13:23:05 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 13:23:12 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 13:23:12 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
- 13:23:16 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 13:23:20 [shadi]
- rrsagent, bye
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- I see 8 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: shadi to send out WBS for the existing test samples (001-037) [1]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-55-17
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: CarlosI to do reviews for 041-042 [2]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-57-22
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: ciglesia to do reviews for 041-042 [3]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-57-58
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: msuuilla to do reviews for 044-045 [4]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-15
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: msquilla to do reviews for 044-045 [5]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-20
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mike to do reviews for 044-045 [6]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-40
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Shadi to do reviews for 046-047 [7]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-58
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: cstrobbe to provide more test samples for review [8]
- 13:23:20 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T13-00-31