12:22:40 RRSAgent has joined #tsdtf 12:22:40 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc 12:22:52 Zakim, what conferences? 12:22:52 I see UW_Team()8:00AM active 12:22:54 also scheduled at this time are ARCH_Team()8:00AM, WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM, IA_CDFWG()8:30AM 12:23:05 zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF 12:23:05 ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes 12:23:12 Meeting: TSD TF 12:23:37 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Sep/0003.html 12:23:49 Agenda+ Announcements etc. 12:24:01 agenda+ Reviews of test samples: current status 12:24:09 agenda+ Tools needed for future progress (including Wiki migration) 12:24:18 MikeS has joined #tsdtf 12:24:29 Chair: CarlosV, Christophe 12:26:26 WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started 12:26:33 + +1.512.823.aaaa 12:27:25 zakim, 1.512.823.aaaa is MikeS 12:27:25 sorry, MikeS, I do not recognize a party named '1.512.823.aaaa' 12:27:47 zakim, +1.512.823.aaaa is MikeS 12:27:47 +MikeS; got it 12:28:04 zakim, code? 12:28:04 the conference code is 8783 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi 12:28:49 +??P1 12:28:54 +Christophe_Strobbe 12:28:59 zakim, ? is me 12:28:59 +shadi; got it 12:31:38 Tim has joined #tsdtf 12:32:16 +Tim_Boland 12:32:30 MichaelC has joined #tsdtf 12:32:47 +Cooper 12:32:59 velasco has joined #tsdtf 12:33:40 -shadi 12:34:26 +??P1 12:34:27 zakim, ? is me 12:34:27 +shadi; got it 12:34:49 +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas 12:35:38 zakim, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas is really CarlosV 12:35:38 sorry, velasco, I do not recognize a party named 'Klaus/Johannes/Thomas' 12:36:10 zakim, Klaus is really CarlosV 12:36:19 -shadi 12:36:33 carlosI has joined #tsdtf 12:36:59 +??P1 12:37:00 zakim, ? is me 12:37:01 +shadi; got it 12:37:24 -shadi 12:37:33 +??P8 12:37:34 -Cooper 12:37:36 -Klaus/Johannes/Thomas 12:37:59 + +1.617.324.aabb 12:38:00 +[IPcaller] 12:38:25 zakim, ipcaller is CarlosI 12:38:25 +CarlosI; got it 12:38:37 +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas 12:39:00 zakim, Klaus is really CarlosV 12:39:22 can you hear me? 12:39:28 No. 12:39:35 wow, i can hear you 12:39:39 stealth mode 12:39:41 zakim, who is on the call? 12:39:41 On the phone I see MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, ??P8, Michael_Cooper, CarlosI, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas 12:39:45 -CarlosI 12:40:20 Shadi, how's that W3C spec for telepathy coming along? 12:40:38 +[IPcaller] 12:40:49 zakim, who is on the call? 12:40:49 On the phone I see MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, CarlosI, Michael_Cooper, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, [IPcaller] 12:41:06 -[IPcaller] 12:41:06 zakim, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas is really CarlosV 12:41:14 zakim, Klaus is really CarlosV 12:41:14 +CarlosV; got it 12:41:28 +Shadi 12:41:47 zakim, who is on the call? 12:41:47 On the phone I see MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, Tim_Boland, CarlosI, Michael_Cooper, CarlosV, Shadi 12:42:54 scribe: Shadi 12:43:07 agenda? 12:43:26 zakim, take up agendum 1 12:43:26 agendum 1. "Announcements etc." taken up [from Christophe] 12:44:04 CS: Katholik University Leuven, member of WCAG WG, also previously with BenToWeb 12:44:26 CV: FIT, also with BenToWeb, develop a tool called Imergo 12:44:56 TB: NIST, WCAG, PFWG, ATAG, also in the OASIS Test Assertion 12:45:21 MS: from IBM, with ERT WG, was previously with PFWG and ATAG 12:45:31 MC: staff contact for WCAG WG PFWG 12:45:56 SAZ: staff contact for ERT WG and this TF 12:46:33 CI: member of ERT WG, work for CTIC in Spain, focus on Web standards and accessibility, also on public administration 12:47:57 SAZ: anyone attending the W3C Technical Plenary? 12:48:02 [nobody] 12:48:34 SAZ: ERT WG will be having f2f meeting from 6-7 November, anyone from this group is welcome to attend 12:49:08 zakim, take up next 12:49:08 agendum 2. "Reviews of test samples: current status" taken up [from Christophe] 12:49:49 CS: we reviewing test samples before our summer break 12:50:03 ...had feedback on some of the reviews 12:50:16 ...did the changes and need to reevaluate 12:50:39 TB: did changes and send notified the group 12:51:33 last update on test sample review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Aug/0000.html 12:53:33 Status List: http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/TestSampleStatusList 12:54:06 SAZ: need a WBS to take vote of the group 12:55:17 action: shadi to send out WBS for the existing test samples (001-037) 12:55:18 Created ACTION-10 - Send out WBS for the existing test samples (001-037) [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-09-23]. 12:55:42 Results of previous survey (mid July): http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42683/batch1/results 12:56:07 SAZ: should distribute 038-049 among ourselves 12:57:22 action: CarlosI to do reviews for 041-042 12:57:22 Sorry, couldn't find user - CarlosI 12:57:58 action: ciglesia to do reviews for 041-042 12:57:59 Created ACTION-11 - Do reviews for 041-042 [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-09-23]. 12:59:15 action: msuuilla to do reviews for 044-045 12:59:15 Sorry, couldn't find user - msuuilla 12:59:20 action: msquilla to do reviews for 044-045 12:59:20 Sorry, couldn't find user - msquilla 12:59:29 msquilla 12:59:40 action: Mike to do reviews for 044-045 12:59:40 Sorry, couldn't find user - Mike 12:59:58 action: Shadi to do reviews for 046-047 12:59:58 Created ACTION-12 - Do reviews for 046-047 [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-09-23]. 13:00:31 action: cstrobbe to provide more test samples for review 13:00:32 Created ACTION-13 - Provide more test samples for review [on Christophe Strobbe - due 2008-09-23]. 13:01:30 zakim, take up next 13:01:30 agendum 3. "Tools needed for future progress (including Wiki migration)" taken up [from Christophe] 13:03:25 SAZ: need to follow-up with system team about wiki 13:03:46 ...but wondering if we should take the opportunity to jump over to other tools 13:03:57 CS: Bugzilla? 13:04:25 MC: not necessary, maybe some form of database for the test cases 13:04:36 ...PFWG also interested in a solution 13:05:03 CS: we store information in the XML and in the wiki 13:05:43 ...need to be able to have a link to the HTML metadata 13:05:57 MC: should be fine using an XSLT 13:08:17 SAZ: Web interface should be fairly simple - already existing requirements 13:08:48 ...MC already knows how to use XSLT and set up databases at W3C 13:10:17 MC: need a design process 13:13:56 SAZ: potentially possible to do a f2f prior to the ERT f2f? 13:14:20 MC: some people could 13:15:38 [potential TF f2f on 5th November] 13:17:27 BenToWeb 3rd test suite (static table): http://www.bentoweb.org/XHTML1_TestSuite3 13:18:03 Previous state of TSD TF test samples (sortable table): http://tinyurl.com/ynu7q4 13:20:46 CS: can start some thoughts by mail 13:21:07 SAZ: could create a Web page under /WAI/ER/tests to collect any requirements 13:21:47 -Tim_Boland 13:21:49 m/exit 13:21:50 NEXT MEETING: 30 September 2008 13:21:51 -Michael_Cooper 13:21:52 -CarlosV 13:21:56 -Christophe_Strobbe 13:21:58 -CarlosI 13:21:59 velasco has left #tsdtf 13:22:01 -Shadi 13:22:03 -MikeS 13:22:03 WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended 13:22:06 Attendees were MikeS, Christophe_Strobbe, shadi, Tim_Boland, Cooper, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, +1.617.324.aabb, Michael_Cooper, CarlosI, [IPcaller], CarlosV 13:22:57 zakim, bye 13:22:57 Zakim has left #tsdtf 13:23:05 rrsagent, make logs world 13:23:12 rrsagent, make minutes 13:23:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi 13:23:16 rrsagent, make logs world 13:23:20 rrsagent, bye 13:23:20 I see 8 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-actions.rdf : 13:23:20 ACTION: shadi to send out WBS for the existing test samples (001-037) [1] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-55-17 13:23:20 ACTION: CarlosI to do reviews for 041-042 [2] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-57-22 13:23:20 ACTION: ciglesia to do reviews for 041-042 [3] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-57-58 13:23:20 ACTION: msuuilla to do reviews for 044-045 [4] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-15 13:23:20 ACTION: msquilla to do reviews for 044-045 [5] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-20 13:23:20 ACTION: Mike to do reviews for 044-045 [6] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-40 13:23:20 ACTION: Shadi to do reviews for 046-047 [7] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T12-59-58 13:23:20 ACTION: cstrobbe to provide more test samples for review [8] 13:23:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-tsdtf-irc#T13-00-31