IRC log of mwts on 2008-09-16

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RRSAgent, make log public
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Zakim, this will be TS
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Meeting: MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
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ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 18 minutes
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0016.html
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Chair: Dom
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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+??P42
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+ +47.24.16.aaaa
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-??P42
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+??P42
15:00:44 [dom]
zakim, code?
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the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
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+ +95251aabb
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zakim, aabb is me
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zakim, ??P42 is Kai
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+dom; got it
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zakim, aaaa is Wilhelm
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+Kai; got it
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+Wilhelm; got it
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Topic: Performance test suites
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ACTION: Dom to run the performances test on a few devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0014.html Dom's report on running the tests
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Dom: vast majority of tests didn't work on the devices I tried, except for Android
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+??P63
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... were the devices/browsers I tried too old?
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+Carmelo
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ACTION: Wilhelm to run the performances test on a few devices [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING]
15:05:18 [dom]
Wilhelm: opposite impression - they run fine on opera mobile, but they take very long
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ACTION: Kai to run the performances test on a few devices and report back to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING]
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Kai: tests worked, but took ages to run
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Wilhelm: did the test actually load on sunspider?
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Wilhelm: HTC one crashed; iPhone took ages
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s/Wilhelm:/Kai:/
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Kai: maybe we should prioritize the tests to try?
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Wilhelm: I'm running all of them - it has taken me 2 hours so far
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Kai: ok, will get back to this - will send a message on this this week
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... these tests should run on mobile devices
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Dom: we could at least improve the size of data needed to download, the memory required, the number of iterations (given that CPU are slower)
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Kai: but it's only a matter of time before someone else release a mobile-friendly version of these tests
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Wilhelm: new and future browsers are likely to support these tests as is
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ACTION: Dom to blog about performance tests and mobile
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Topic: Device Independent Testing Guidelines
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ACTION: Carmelo to start a draft of guidelines on writing device independent test cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING]
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/att-0020/Guidelines_for_Writing_Moibile_Tests.html Carmelo's draft
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ACTION: Wilhelm to review DI testing guielines
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ACTION: Dom to review DI testing guielines
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Topic: Cookies test suite
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ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for cookies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING]
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Wilhelm: I've started to make it usable for outside of Opera
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... also working on setting up a framework for Opera to release their test suites
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Topic: Widgets test suites
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Dom: WebApps WG interested in getting help on their testing for widgets
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ACTION: Carmelo to come back with a plan for helping test widgets specs
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0015.html Art's message
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Topic: Plugin test suite
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ACTION: Dom to look closer at the plugin support test [recorded in
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http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]
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Kai: will probably contribute an ActiveX open plugin
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Topic: FYI: new release of SVG 1.2 Tiny test suite
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0013.html new release of SVG Tiny test suite
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Topic: Next meetings
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Dom: I'm away on Sep 23 and 30
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zakim, ??P63 is probably dmitri
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+dmitri?; got it
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Carmelo: can take up chairing
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-Carmelo
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-Kai
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-Wilhelm
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-dom
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-dmitri?
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +47.24.16.aaaa, +95251aabb, dom, Kai, Wilhelm, Carmelo, dmitri?
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s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/16-mwts-minutes.html dom