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10:58:03 Hi, I was wondering if someone could give me some advice. In the widget spec, we want to define and "auto update" mechanism for updating widget packages over the air....
11:01:13 the proposal looks like this Where, at runtime, %version% is replaced by the UA for the value of the version attribute.
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11:01:57 The question I have is, would it be better to to define%version% as an entity reference?
11:02:11 i.e., &version; ?
11:02:23 does it matter?
11:05:29 Where the entity reference is not defined in the widget XML file itself, and comes from the environment outside the parser instead?
11:06:30 yeah
11:06:33 If so, that sounds like it'd be a bit of a pain for anyone using normal XML tools to process or generate those files
11:06:40 yeah, true
11:06:45 that would suck
11:07:13 I'll stick with %version%
11:07:19 Rather than %-substitution, you could use (a subset of) URI templates instead
11:07:34 i.e. basically just use {version} instead
11:07:42 ok, that could work too
11:07:52 is there anything written about that?
11:07:59 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gregorio-uritemplate-02
11:08:06 Oh
11:08:07 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gregorio-uritemplate-03
11:08:23 great, I'll check those out.
11:08:50 That might be a silly idea, but at least the syntax seems less likely to conflict with the usual existence of % in URIs
11:09:18 marcos: entity references are trouble
11:12:21 fwiw, I agree with hsivonen .. named entity references are one of the ugliest legacies inherited from SGML.. wish we could kill them off entirely
11:13:00 hsivonen, yeah. I see that now...
11:13:19 MikeSmith, understood.
11:14:01 (but sandboxing saved the day)
11:14:19 (Uh, I think they might have meant to write file:// in that example)
11:14:25 Philip: have you a link to that?
11:14:41 jmb: http://crypto.stanford.edu/websec/chromium/
11:14:59 ta
11:17:01 (It seems they're ignoring the issue of the web security model (i.e. enforcing same-originality etc), and only trying to prevent web pages interfering with the user's own computer)
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13:40:14 what's the observing etiquette and schedule? is it poor form to request observer status on another WG on the same days the HTML WG meets (since that would mean either skipping some HTML stuff or not actually observing most of the time)?
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14:28:23 you're welcome to request observer status all over the place, hsivonen . TPAC scheduling is overconstrained, and creative compromises are expected
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14:29:50 it's quite common to request to observe several meetings at once
14:34:39 DanC: OK. thanks.
14:38:02 DanC: So I requested observer status through the survey form - but should I be following up with the chairs of the respective working groups directly?
14:39:11 the norm is that the ball is now in the chairs' court, smedero . You should follow up only if you think a special case is worth making
14:39:38 most chairs just send a bulk "sure, fine, come and observe" message to all requesters, I think
14:39:51 I suppose some don't get around to it at all
14:39:52 that's what I assumed... I just wanted to make sure I didn't drop the ball on that.
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16:00:16 ChrisWilson has changed the topic to: HTML WG telecon 11 Sept 16:00UTC http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda | this channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/
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16:00:39 zakim, this is html
16:00:39 ChrisWilson, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be html".
16:00:44 rrsagent, make logs world-visible
16:00:49 Zakim, this will be html
16:00:49 ok, ChrisWilson; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start now
16:00:50 HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
16:00:53 grr
16:00:57 + +1.425.646.aaaa
16:01:05 Zakim, aaaa is me
16:01:05 +smedero; got it
16:01:11 meeting: HTML WG Weekly Issue & Agenda Tracking Call
16:01:15 + +1.408.398.aabb
16:01:23 +[Microsoft]
16:01:27 scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita
16:01:28 zakim, microsoft is me
16:01:28 +ChrisWilson; got it
16:01:32 scribeNick: oedipus
16:01:44 + +49.251.280.aacc
16:01:44 Zakim, passcode?
16:01:44 the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), hsivonen
16:01:58 +DanC
16:02:00 Zakim, +49.251.280.aacc is me
16:02:00 +Julian; got it
16:02:04 regrets+ Mike_Smith
16:02:05 chair: Chris_Wilson
16:02:07 + +1.218.349.aadd
16:02:21 +Gregory_Rosmaita
16:02:33 zakim, agenda?
16:02:33 I see nothing on the agenda
16:02:38 +??P24
16:02:39 agenda + review tracker
16:02:49 agenda+ tech plenary discussion
16:02:50 Zakim, ??P24 is me
16:02:52 +hsivonen; got it
16:03:04 agenda+ discuss accessibility of audio/video
16:03:46 in light of DSinger's only being here for the first 10 minutes or so, I'll suggest we start with a/v accessibility discussion
16:04:05 anything to add to the agenda?
16:04:59 tp://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/thread.html#msg697
16:04:59 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/thread.html#msg15
16:05:05 I started a page in the Wiki for Multimedia Accessibilty