IRC log of bpwg on 2008-09-11
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be BPWG
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- ok, trackbot; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 15 minutes
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- Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 11 September 2008
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Sep/0027.html
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- Regrets: Bryan, Pontus, Abel, Miguel, Ed, Rob, Scott, Nacho
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- Chair: Jo
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- hello
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- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jo
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- MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has now started
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- +??P0
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- + +03531522aaaa
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- zakim, ??P0 is jeffs
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- +jeffs; got it
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- zakim, aaaa is dotmobi
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- +dotmobi; got it
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- zakim, dotmobi holds jo
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- +jo; got it
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- zakim, please mute me
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- jeffs should now be muted
- 13:57:08 [jo]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:57:08 [Zakim]
- sorry, jo, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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- zakim, mute dotmobi
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- dotmobi should now be muted
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- + +0207881aabb
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- +??P3
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- + +049211aacc
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- 13:59:12 [aconnors]
- zakim, aabb is me
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- +aconnors; got it
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- +Francois
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- + +0472369aadd
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- +??P9
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- zakim, ??P9 is yeliz
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- +yeliz; got it
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- zakim, mute yeliz
- 14:00:22 [achuter]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- +Dom
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- yeliz should now be muted
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- On the phone I see jeffs (muted), dotmobi (muted), aconnors, ??P3, +049211aacc, Francois, +0472369aadd, yeliz (muted), Dom
- 14:00:26 [Zakim]
- dotmobi has jo
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- zakim, mute me
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- Dom should now be muted
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- -??P3
- 14:01:01 [hgerlach]
- 049211aacc should be Heiko
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- zakim, aacc is probably heilo
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- +heilo?; got it
- 14:01:22 [dom]
- zakim, aacc is probably heiko
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- sorry, dom, I do not understand your question
- 14:01:27 [francois]
- zakim, heilo is really heiko
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- +heiko; got it
- 14:01:31 [dom]
- zakim, heilo is probably heiko
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- sorry, dom, I do not understand your question
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- zakim, heilo is really heiko
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- +??P13
- 14:01:37 [Zakim]
- sorry, dom, I do not recognize a party named 'heilo'
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- zakim, ??P13 is me
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- +achuter; got it
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- zakim, aacc is really heiko
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- zakim, who is on
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- sorry, dom, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
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- I don't understand 'who is on', jeffs
- 14:01:59 [dom]
- zakim, stop making fun of me
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- I don't understand 'stop making fun of me', dom
- 14:02:15 [yeliz]
- zakim, mute yeliz
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- yeliz was already muted, yeliz
- 14:02:23 [dom]
- zakim, who's on the call?
- 14:02:24 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see jeffs (muted), dotmobi (muted), aconnors, heiko, Francois, +0472369aadd, yeliz (muted), Dom (muted), achuter
- 14:02:25 [jeffs]
- zakim, unmute me
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- dotmobi has jo
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- jeffs should no longer be muted
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- zakim, unmute dotmobi
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- dotmobi should no longer be muted
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- zakim, please mute me
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- jeffs should now be muted
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- ack me
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- zakim, aadd is DavidStorey
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- +DavidStorey; got it
- 14:03:58 [dom]
- agenda+ welcome david
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- Regrets+ DKA
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Sep/0027.html Agenda
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- ScribeNick: achuter
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- Scribe: Alan
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- +??P22
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- [David Storey of Operra Software, introduction]
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- ack me
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- topic Status of sign-ups to new group
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- Topic: Status of sign up to new group
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- topic: Status of sign-ups to new group
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- s/Topic: Status of sign up to new group//
- 14:07:01 [achuter]
- Dom: If people are having touble signing up, should contact me
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- http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/37584/status
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- Jo: Someone asked how they can tell if their AC rep has done it.
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- Dom: Status list [link above]
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- + +1.630.414.aaee
- 14:08:28 [SeanP]
- zakim, aaee isme
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- I don't understand 'aaee isme', SeanP
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- zakim, aaee is SeanP
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- +SeanP; got it
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- zakim, who's on the call?
- 14:08:47 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see jeffs (muted), dotmobi, aconnors, heiko, Francois, DavidStorey, yeliz (muted), Dom (muted), achuter, ??P22, SeanP
- 14:08:50 [Zakim]
- dotmobi has jo
- 14:09:22 [francois]
- zakim, ??P22 is DRooks
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- +DRooks; got it
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- +Kai_Dietrich
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- Topic: F2f Agenda
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- q+
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- ack me
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- Jo: Nothing more to add.
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- ACTION-835?
- 14:10:27 [trackbot]
- ACTION-835 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to contact Stéphane to see if he is interested in presenting MW4D to BPWG at TPAC -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:10:27 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/835
- 14:10:37 [achuter]
- Dom: Stéphane Boyera will be able to present during F2F. Should let him know what day we want.
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- Topic: Reports from Task Forces
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- Francois: content Transform TF. We decided to keep it going for now to complete work on documents (LC comments)
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- Francois: Will take a few weeks.
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- Jo: Korean TF, nobody present, Checker, nobody present
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- Topic: Document Updates
- 14:12:32 [dom]
- ACTION-837?
- 14:12:32 [trackbot]
- ACTION-837 -- Kai Scheppe to provide explanatory text for the addendum which will put the document (mobileOK Pro Tests 1) in the correct context and explain to the audience that it is intended to aid content authors in creating still better content. -- due 2008-09-11 -- OPEN
- 14:12:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/837
- 14:12:44 [achuter]
- Kai: Have not been able to read comments
- 14:13:36 [achuter]
- Adam: BP 2.0. Have not been able to work on it in August, but have received more BPs to add. Will sned list to group.
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- Jo: Should track as issues?
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- Adam: Seven from Bryan one from Jo.
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/new
- 14:15:14 [manrique]
- about the checker, miguel has told me that there aren't news
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- zakim, please unmute me
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- jeffs should no longer be muted
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- zakim, unmute yeliz
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- yeliz should no longer be muted
- 14:15:25 [achuter]
- Topic: Accessibility and mandatory poll
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- see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Sep/0002.html
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/37584/WAI-Mobile-Experiences/results
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- 4 answers
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- (closed yesterday)
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- Jo: Not many people have answered mandatory poll.
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- s/Jo/Francois
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- q+
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- ack j
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- Kai has joined #bpwg
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:16:53 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see jeffs, dotmobi, aconnors, heiko, Francois, DavidStorey, yeliz, Dom (muted), achuter (muted), DRooks, SeanP, Kai_Dietrich
- 14:16:55 [Zakim]
- dotmobi has jo
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- ACTION-820?
- 14:16:59 [trackbot]
- ACTION-820 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to look at providing examples for accessibility document -- due 2008-09-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:16:59 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/820
- 14:17:06 [achuter]
- zakim, unmute me
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- achuter should no longer be muted
- 14:17:25 [jeffs]
- zakim, please mute me
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- jeffs should now be muted
- 14:17:32 [achuter]
- Jeff: Will soon be meeting and reviewing the document
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- +[CTIC]
- 14:17:44 [jeffs]
- zakim, please unmute me
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- jeffs should no longer be muted
- 14:17:54 [achuter]
- Jo: should hold off finishing this document until Jeff has reported.
- 14:18:01 [dom]
- q+ to respond on IP
- 14:18:32 [achuter]
- Jeff: Need three or four weeks
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- Yeliz, Alan: No problem
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- zakim, please mute me
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- jeffs should now be muted
- 14:18:53 [dom]
- ack me
- 14:18:54 [Zakim]
- dom, you wanted to respond on IP
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- ack d
- 14:19:34 [achuter]
- Dom: don't foresee andy IP problems
- 14:19:44 [achuter]
- s/andy/any
- 14:19:44 [dom]
- s/andy/any/
- 14:20:11 [jeffs]
- have updated ACTION-820 to read: due 2008-10-02, and "open"
- 14:20:22 [achuter]
- Yeliz: Have addressed dom's comments, now need to do Jo's comments
- 14:20:36 [achuter]
- Jo: Please extend poll by four weeks.
- 14:21:01 [achuter]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/ED-mwbp-wcag-20080901
- 14:21:02 [yeliz]
- zakim, mute yeliz
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- yeliz should now be muted
- 14:22:41 [achuter]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-eo-editors/2008Sep/0000.html
- 14:23:04 [achuter]
- Alan: Comments received from Lisa Pappas yet to be addressed.
- 14:23:17 [achuter]
- Alan: Will published new WD.
- 14:23:21 [dom]
- ACTION-841?
- 14:23:21 [trackbot]
- ACTION-841 -- Jo Rabin to review WSC comment and propose new wording -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:23:21 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/841
- 14:23:44 [dom]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Sep/0019.html Jo's reworked text for mobileOK
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- +1
- 14:23:59 [achuter]
- Jo: Basic Tests. Comments received from ?. Is editorial change.
- 14:24:02 [francois]
- +1
- 14:24:29 [achuter]
- Jo: comments on proposal?
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- [None]
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/pendingreview Pending Review actions
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- Topic: Actions & issues
- 14:25:04 [dom]
- ACTION-688?
- 14:25:04 [trackbot]
- ACTION-688 -- David Storey to check if Opera supports WBXML in and/or out of its WML support -- due 2008-03-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:25:04 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/688
- 14:25:20 [achuter]
- zakim, mute me
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- achuter should now be muted
- 14:25:26 [dom]
- -> http://www.w3.org/mid/4F887FF1-7F68-4FA1-86AB-19548D8536A6%2540opera.com David's response
- 14:25:33 [dom]
- q+
- 14:25:44 [dom]
- ack me
- 14:25:46 [jo]
- ack d
- 14:25:59 [achuter]
- David: waiting reply from Opera Mini team
- 14:27:11 [dom]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: WBXML isn't widely supported enough for non-WML languages to warrant recommendations in the MWABP
- 14:27:18 [jo]
- +1
- 14:27:21 [francois]
- +1
- 14:27:26 [Kai]
- +1
- 14:27:28 [jeffs]
- +1
- 14:27:31 [dstorey]
- +1
- 14:27:38 [manrique]
- +1
- 14:27:56 [achuter]
- RESOLUTION: WBXML isn't widely supported enough for non-WML languages to warrant recommendations in the MWABP
- 14:28:04 [dom]
- close ACTION-688
- 14:28:04 [trackbot]
- ACTION-688 Check if Opera supports WBXML in and/or out of its WML support closed
- 14:28:16 [dom]
- ACTION-689?
- 14:28:16 [trackbot]
- ACTION-689 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to check XHR compression -- due 2008-03-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:28:16 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/689
- 14:30:06 [achuter]
- Dom: No changes needed to document.
- 14:30:10 [dom]
- -> http://www.w3.org/mid/1220971373.19890.230.camel%2540localhost Dom's investigations of compressed XHR
- 14:30:14 [dom]
- close ACTION-689
- 14:30:14 [trackbot]
- ACTION-689 Check XHR compression closed
- 14:30:31 [dom]
- ACTION-786?
- 14:30:31 [trackbot]
- ACTION-786 -- Jo Rabin to draft wording for an appendix that identifies the aggregators and operator roles that are different in the mobile ecosystem. -- due 2008-06-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:30:31 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/786
- 14:30:45 [dom]
- -> http://www.w3.org/mid/4875E85F.50608%2540mtld.mobi Jo's wording
- 14:31:34 [hgerlach]
- sorry, have to leave for next meeting-bye
- 14:31:39 [Zakim]
- -heiko
- 14:32:11 [dom]
- ACTION-792?
- 14:32:11 [trackbot]
- ACTION-792 -- Abel Rionda to propose some text on SVG -- due 2008-07-31 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:32:11 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/792
- 14:32:22 [dom]
- ack me
- 14:32:36 [dom]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/0090.html Abel's contribution
- 14:32:46 [dom]
- ACTION-793?
- 14:32:46 [trackbot]
- ACTION-793 -- Kai Scheppe to work with Scott to produce proposed text on caching that goes beyond BP 1 -- due 2008-06-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:32:46 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/793
- 14:32:57 [dom]
- -> http://www.w3.org/mid/398533C370C23441981074C456AA3BDD031DB8AF%2540QEO00226.de.t-online.corp Kai's contribution
- 14:33:24 [dom]
- ACTION-824?
- 14:33:24 [trackbot]
- ACTION-824 -- Bryan Sullivan to raise issues on things he's not happy about, especially personalisation -- due 2008-08-06 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:33:24 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/824
- 14:33:33 [dom]
- close ACTION-824
- 14:33:33 [trackbot]
- ACTION-824 Raise issues on things he's not happy about, especially personalisation closed
- 14:33:36 [Kai]
- q+
- 14:33:46 [jo]
- ack k
- 14:34:02 [dom]
- ACTION: Adam to raise ISSUEs based on Bryan's comments
- 14:34:02 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-844 - Raise ISSUEs based on Bryan's comments [on Adam Connors - due 2008-09-18].
- 14:34:54 [dom]
- Kai: we've put in practice what we've described above - it does work
- 14:35:28 [dom]
- ACTION-826?
- 14:35:28 [trackbot]
- ACTION-826 -- Jo Rabin to work with _DAN_ and Francois to set up a web form, deadline a couple of weeks -- due 2008-09-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:35:28 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/826
- 14:35:32 [dom]
- close ACTION-826
- 14:35:32 [trackbot]
- ACTION-826 Work with _DAN_ and Francois to set up a web form, deadline a couple of weeks closed
- 14:35:38 [dom]
- ACTION-827?
- 14:35:38 [trackbot]
- ACTION-827 -- Jo Rabin to follow up on what happened to ETSI liaison at their end -- due 2008-09-04 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:35:38 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/827
- 14:35:49 [Kai]
- ACTION: Kai to finalize information on caching concept, now live, and contribute it to the list.
- 14:35:49 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-845 - Finalize information on caching concept, now live, and contribute it to the list. [on Kai Scheppe - due 2008-09-18].
- 14:36:32 [dom]
- close ACTION-827
- 14:36:33 [trackbot]
- ACTION-827 Follow up on what happened to ETSI liaison at their end closed
- 14:37:05 [achuter]
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- 14:37:18 [dom]
- close ACTION-828
- 14:37:19 [trackbot]
- ACTION-828 Get back on LC-2043 and simialr pointing out what we are trying to achieve and asking for clarification closed
- 14:37:36 [dom]
- ACTION-835?
- 14:37:36 [trackbot]
- ACTION-835 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to contact Stéphane to see if he is interested in presenting MW4D to BPWG at TPAC -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:37:36 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/835
- 14:38:16 [dom]
- ACTION-841?
- 14:38:16 [trackbot]
- ACTION-841 -- Jo Rabin to review WSC comment and propose new wording -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
- 14:38:16 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/841
- 14:38:42 [dom]
- -1
- 14:38:57 [achuter]
- opic: Open actions
- 14:39:01 [achuter]
- Topic: Open actions
- 14:39:05 [dom]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/overdue 25 overdue actions
- 14:39:23 [dom]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/overdue?sort=owner sorted by owner
- 14:39:34 [achuter]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:39:34 [Zakim]
- achuter was already muted, achuter
- 14:39:52 [dom]
- ACTION-790?
- 14:39:52 [trackbot]
- ACTION-790 -- Alan Chuter to produce some text around accessibility of Javascript for Web Application Best Practices -- due 2008-07-03 -- OPEN
- 14:39:52 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/790
- 14:39:59 [achuter]
- zakim, unmute me
- 14:39:59 [Zakim]
- achuter should no longer be muted
- 14:40:43 [achuter]
- Alan: Apologies, promises to do it for next week.
- 14:41:07 [dom]
- ACTION-797?
- 14:41:07 [trackbot]
- ACTION-797 -- Adam Connors to check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser -- due 2008-06-25 -- OPEN
- 14:41:07 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/797
- 14:41:24 [dom]
- ACTION-797: Adam says this cannot be done with a reasonable amount of efforts
- 14:41:24 [trackbot]
- ACTION-797 Check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser notes added
- 14:41:40 [achuter]
- Adam: Can not be done with reasonable amount of work. Propose not to do it.
- 14:42:26 [jeffs]
- q+
- 14:42:35 [jeffs]
- zakim, unmute me
- 14:42:35 [Zakim]
- jeffs should no longer be muted
- 14:42:37 [jo]
- ack j
- 14:42:37 [dom]
- ack j
- 14:42:45 [achuter]
- Kai: We can close it.
- 14:43:17 [achuter]
- Jeff: Have been asked about this by several developers. Would prefere postponing it.
- 14:43:40 [Kai]
- q+
- 14:43:55 [jo]
- ack k
- 14:43:56 [achuter]
- Jeff: Will come back with more information next week.
- 14:44:01 [dom]
- ACTION-797?
- 14:44:01 [trackbot]
- ACTION-797 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser -- due 2008-09-25 -- OPEN
- 14:44:01 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/797
- 14:44:27 [jeffs]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:44:27 [Zakim]
- jeffs should now be muted
- 14:44:30 [achuter]
- Kai: Had picked a value of 30, Jeff please check it with your people.
- 14:44:43 [dom]
- ACTION-823?
- 14:44:43 [trackbot]
- ACTION-823 -- Adam Connors to stimulate another round of discussion on what is missing from BP-2 FPWD -- due 2008-08-07 -- OPEN
- 14:44:43 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/823
- 14:45:11 [dom]
- ACTION-824?
- 14:45:11 [trackbot]
- ACTION-824 -- Bryan Sullivan to raise issues on things he's not happy about, especially personalisation -- due 2008-08-07 -- CLOSED
- 14:45:11 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/824
- 14:45:14 [dom]
- ISSUE-265?
- 14:45:14 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-265 -- Discussion of Jonathan's Submission ref separation of structure presentation and behavior at http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhpvgnmn_54d7cbhrhn -- OPEN
- 14:45:14 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/265
- 14:45:44 [dom]
- ACTION-794?
- 14:45:44 [trackbot]
- ACTION-794 -- Adam Connors to lead off discussion on ISSUE-265 following completion of next draft BP2 -- due 2008-07-17 -- OPEN
- 14:45:44 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/794
- 14:46:09 [dom]
- ACTION-804?
- 14:46:10 [trackbot]
- ACTION-804 -- François Daoust to see with Soonho if he can find someone else to provide feedback on the document -- due 2008-07-17 -- OPEN
- 14:46:10 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/804
- 14:46:22 [dom]
- ACTION-804: Francois pinged him several times, no reply
- 14:46:22 [trackbot]
- ACTION-804 See with Soonho if he can find someone else to provide feedback on the document notes added
- 14:46:27 [dom]
- close ACTION-804
- 14:46:27 [trackbot]
- ACTION-804 See with Soonho if he can find someone else to provide feedback on the document closed
- 14:46:30 [jeffs]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:46:35 [dom]
- ACTION-721?
- 14:46:35 [trackbot]
- ACTION-721 -- François Daoust to prepare a report's form to fill to test Aaron static/dynamic example -- due 2008-08-14 -- OPEN
- 14:46:35 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/721
- 14:46:37 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see jeffs (muted), dotmobi, aconnors, Francois, DavidStorey, yeliz (muted), Dom, achuter, DRooks, SeanP, Kai_Dietrich, [CTIC]
- 14:46:46 [Zakim]
- dotmobi has jo
- 14:46:54 [dom]
- ACTION-799?
- 14:46:54 [trackbot]
- ACTION-799 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get back to rigo on updating the mobileOK license -- due 2008-07-24 -- OPEN
- 14:46:54 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/799
- 14:48:25 [dom]
- ACTION-762?
- 14:48:25 [trackbot]
- ACTION-762 -- Jo Rabin to review ISSUE-250 with a view to how this affects content of mobileOK scheme -- due 2008-05-29 -- OPEN
- 14:48:25 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/762
- 14:49:00 [jo]
- ACTION-806?
- 14:49:00 [trackbot]
- ACTION-806 -- Bryan Sullivan to send initial comments on Widget Requirements -- due 2008-07-10 -- OPEN
- 14:49:00 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/806
- 14:49:02 [dom]
- close ACTION-806
- 14:49:02 [trackbot]
- ACTION-806 Send initial comments on Widget Requirements closed
- 14:50:15 [dom]
- ISSUE-249?
- 14:50:15 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-249 -- Should we include information use of DCCI in BP2? -- RAISED
- 14:50:15 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/249
- 14:51:01 [achuter]
- dom: two still pending review
- 14:51:35 [achuter]
- Dom: Propose closing 249, out of scope
- 14:51:53 [dom]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The WG is not responsible for transferring the techniques any longer. Close ISSUE-239.
- 14:52:00 [dom]
- ISSUE-239?
- 14:52:00 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-239 -- We still have not found a suitable home for the Techniques. -- RAISED
- 14:52:00 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/239
- 14:52:08 [jo]
- PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The WG is not responsible for transferring the techniques any longer. Close ISSUE-239.
- 14:52:12 [francois]
- +1
- 14:52:16 [dom]
- +1
- 14:52:17 [jeffs]
- +1
- 14:52:20 [jo]
- +1
- 14:52:32 [achuter]
- RESOLUTION: The WG is not responsible for transferring the techniques any longer. Close ISSUE-239
- 14:53:14 [dom]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/
- 14:53:24 [jo]
- Topic: AOB
- 14:53:30 [dom]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2008/registrants#mwbp current registrants for next F2F
- 14:54:04 [jeffs]
- I'm there ®
- 14:54:51 [achuter]
- [Call ends]
- 14:54:52 [Zakim]
- -DRooks
- 14:54:53 [manrique]
- bye
- 14:54:53 [yeliz]
- bye
- 14:54:55 [Zakim]
- -Kai_Dietrich
- 14:54:56 [Zakim]
- -Dom
- 14:54:57 [Zakim]
- -Francois
- 14:54:59 [Zakim]
- -achuter
- 14:55:01 [Zakim]
- -dotmobi
- 14:55:03 [Zakim]
- -yeliz
- 14:55:05 [Zakim]
- -DavidStorey
- 14:55:09 [Zakim]
- -aconnors
- 14:55:11 [Zakim]
- -jeffs
- 14:55:13 [Zakim]
- -SeanP
- 14:55:17 [Zakim]
- -[CTIC]
- 14:55:19 [Zakim]
- MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
- 14:55:23 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +03531522aaaa, jeffs, jo, +0207881aabb, +049211aacc, aconnors, Francois, +0472369aadd, yeliz, Dom, heilo?, heiko, achuter, DavidStorey, +1.630.414.aaee, SeanP,
- 14:55:24 [francois]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 14:55:24 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-minutes.html francois
- 14:55:26 [Zakim]
- ... DRooks, Kai_Dietrich, [CTIC]
- 14:55:29 [francois]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 14:55:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-minutes.html francois
- 14:55:35 [jeffs]
- quit
- 14:56:22 [francois]
- Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
- 14:56:33 [francois]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 14:56:33 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-minutes.html francois
- 14:59:18 [yeliz]
- yeliz has left #bpwg
- 15:21:44 [Kai]
- Kai has left #bpwg
- 15:29:37 [francois]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 15:29:37 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-actions.rdf :
- 15:29:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Adam to raise ISSUEs based on Bryan's comments [1]
- 15:29:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-irc#T14-34-02
- 15:29:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Kai to finalize information on caching concept, now live, and contribute it to the list. [2]
- 15:29:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-bpwg-irc#T14-35-49
- 15:29:40 [francois]
- Zakim, bye
- 15:29:40 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #bpwg