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14:49:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:49:06 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML_Forms
14:49:06 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM already started
14:49:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
14:49:07 <trackbot> Date: 10 September 2008
14:49:16 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:49:34 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
14:49:45 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0021
14:49:51 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0021
14:49:58 <Roger> zakim, code?
14:49:58 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Roger
14:50:15 <Zakim> + +555555aabb
14:50:20 <Roger> zakim, aabb is Roger
14:50:20 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
14:50:23 <Zakim> -kenneth
14:50:25 <Roger> Hi Steven
14:50:27 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?
14:50:38 <Zakim> +??P3
14:50:39 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
14:50:44 <Roger> zakim, mute me;
14:50:44 <Zakim> sorry, Roger, I do not know which phone connection belongs to me;
14:50:49 <kenneth> zakim, i am ??P3
14:50:49 <Zakim> +kenneth; got it
14:50:58 <Steven> zakim, mute roger
14:50:58 <Zakim> Roger should now be muted
14:51:12 <prb> teh semicolon
14:51:28 <klotz> http://xformstest.org/2008-09-10.txt
14:51:32 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
14:51:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Charlie, prb, wellsk, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, Roger (muted), kenneth
14:51:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, klotz, ebruchez, Roger, Zakim, wellsk, Charlie, prb, markbirbeck, kenneth, Steven, trackbot
14:52:34 <kenneth> does anyone have problems with sound ?
14:52:40 <kenneth> or is it just my connection ?
14:52:56 <Charlie> zakim, who is noisy?
14:52:56 <Zakim> + +1.650.515.aacc
14:53:06 <ebruchez> zakim, +1.650.515.aacc is ebruchez
14:53:06 <Zakim> +ebruchez; got it
14:53:07 <Zakim> Charlie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Leigh_Klotz (15%), kenneth (33%), prb (17%)
14:53:35 <Zakim> -Roger
14:53:37 <klotz> zakim, who is noisy?
14:53:48 <Zakim> klotz, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: prb (45%)
14:53:55 <Charlie> zakim, mute prb
14:53:55 <Zakim> prb should now be muted
14:54:02 <klotz> silence achieved
14:54:43 <Zakim> +Roger
14:54:51 <Charlie> zakim, mute Roger
14:54:54 <Zakim> Roger should now be muted
14:55:00 <Roger> thx
14:55:07 <Steven> Use firefox: http://concentre.zensoluciones.com/examples/yahoo_search.html
15:03:08 <Steven> XML Base Comments 
15:03:08 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0012 
15:03:08 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0013 
15:03:08 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0014 
15:03:08 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0015
15:03:57 <Steven> XML Base Comments 
15:03:57 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0012 
15:03:57 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0013 
15:03:57 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0014 
15:03:57 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0015
15:04:08 <Steven> XSD 1.1, Kenneth, Mark 
15:04:08 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0016 
15:04:08 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0019
15:04:08 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0020
15:04:53 <klotz> ACTION: Steven Pemberton to reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0012 0013 0014 0015 saying we are satisfied.
15:04:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-492 - Pemberton to reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0012 0013 0014 0015 saying we are satisfied. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2008-09-17].
15:11:09 <klotz> "wire cuts"?
15:15:19 <prb> Zakim, unmute me
15:15:19 <Zakim> prb should no longer be muted
15:16:12 <unl> unl has joined #forms
15:16:23 <prb> zakim, mute me
15:16:23 <Zakim> prb should now be muted
15:17:51 <Zakim> + +49.307.544.aadd
15:18:14 <Steven> zakim, aadd is uli
15:18:14 <Zakim> +uli; got it
15:18:26 <unl> zakim, uli is me
15:18:27 <Zakim> +unl; got it
15:18:46 <unl> zakim, mute me
15:18:46 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
15:19:22 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/xpathFunctions/index-all.html
15:19:55 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/model/bind/index-all.html
15:21:51 <prb> zakim, unmute me
15:21:51 <Zakim> prb should no longer be muted
15:29:28 <ebruchez> BTW up to 1.0 2nd edition, we did not explicitly mention "id": http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xforms-20060314/slice3.html#structure-attrs-common
15:31:34 <prb> zakim, mute me
15:31:34 <Zakim> prb should now be muted
15:33:00 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/modules/instance/actions/index-all.html
15:36:53 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jun/0069.html
15:37:04 <prb> zakim, unmute me
15:37:04 <Zakim> prb should no longer be muted
15:51:40 <Steven> Validity notification on initial or hidden data
15:51:40 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008May/0015.html
15:51:45 <prb> zakim, mute me
15:51:45 <Zakim> prb should now be muted
15:52:53 <klotz> RESOLUTION: For future versions, we change MIPs that accept boolean values to say that they use the XPath boolean function to convert the value to boolean, except if the value is the string "false" in which case we treat it as a boolean false.
15:55:03 <kenneth> what about FALSE or FalSe etc?
15:55:59 <prb> zakim, unmute me
15:55:59 <Zakim> prb should no longer be muted
15:56:45 <klotz> XPath string converts to "true" and "false" all lowercase
15:57:02 <Charlie> that's what happened in our component (xac) ideas as well
15:57:30 <Charlie> the tab then acts as an informal "component"
15:58:00 <klotz> xsd says "An instance of a datatype that is defined as ·boolean· can have the following legal literals {true, false, 1, 0}. "
16:00:27 <Roger> bye
16:00:34 <unl> bye
16:00:34 <Charlie> Charlie has left #forms
16:00:35 <Zakim> -ebruchez
16:00:36 <wellsk> wellsk has left #forms
16:00:39 <Zakim> -wellsk
16:00:41 <Zakim> -Steven
16:00:43 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
16:00:45 <Zakim> -Charlie
16:00:47 <Zakim> -prb
16:00:49 <Zakim> -unl
16:00:51 <Zakim> -Roger
16:00:57 <Zakim> -kenneth
16:00:59 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
16:01:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Charlie, kenneth, prb, +1.919.254.aaaa, wellsk, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, +555555aabb, Roger, ebruchez, +49.307.544.aadd, unl
16:02:08 <klotz> zakim, make minutes
16:02:08 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make minutes', klotz
16:02:15 <klotz> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/10-forms-minutes.html klotz
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