<cgi-irc> hello marc

<cgi-irc> just you and me then?

<marc> cgi-irc, who are you?

<cgi-irc> oops

<marc> Hi Björn!

<Idoia> Hi all!

<Idoia> myriam arrue is Idoia and Nestor

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Discussion on continuation

<paolo> Christian: I'd like to continue

<Ian> I also think the sub group would be fine

<paolo> marc: I don't see why to be another subgroup

<Bjoern> so do I and would clearly like to continue.

<paolo> marc: Maybe issues on Patents

<paolo> marc: There is policy in W3C, to disclose patent

<paolo> paolo: Yes there are patent issues,

<paolo> marc: risk people in MMI that already have patents

<paolo> Christian: Can try the MMI way and afterwards to follow another option

<marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Jul/0013.html

Core 1 and Core 6 discussion

<paolo> Bjoern: different proposals

<paolo> ... proposal 1 similar to other

<paolo> ... Marc elegant proposal

<paolo> ... variant 2: allows many levels and sets

<marc> <mood>

<marc> <category set="everyday" name="relaxed" confidence="0.8" />

<marc> </mood>

<marc> <mood emotion-related-state-types="Scherer">

<marc> <category set="everyday" name="relaxed" confidence="0.8" />

<marc> </mood>

<paolo1> Scribe: paolo1

Marc: example with element mood

<marc> <emotion type="mood" emotion-related-state-types="Scherer">

<marc> <category set="everyday" name="relaxed" confidence="0.8" />

<marc> </emotion>

<marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Sep/0004.html

<Ian> I prefer variant 5

<Bjoern> agrees with leaving open variant 4 or 5 for now.

<Idoia> we also prefer variant 4 or 5

<Bjoern> yes.

<Ian> yes

<Christian> Christian prefers variant 5 with thinking about the name of the 1st level tag (emotion/affect/emotion-related-state/ers...)

<marc> Core 6

<marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Sep/0005.html

<Bjoern> <complex-affect>

<Bjoern> <affect>

<Bjoern> <category set="Scherer" name="emotion" />

<Bjoern> <affect>

<Bjoern> <category set="everyday" name="pleasure" confidence="0.9" />

<Bjoern> </affect>

<Bjoern> </affect>

<Bjoern> variant 2

<Bjoern> <affect id=1>

<Bjoern> <related link="#2" />

<Bjoern> <category set="Scherer" name="emotion" />

<Ian> yes

<Bjoern> <affect>

<Bjoern> <category set="everyday" name="pleasure" confidence="0.9" />

<Bjoern> </affect>

<Bjoern> </affect>

<Bjoern> <affect id=2>

<Bjoern> <related link="#1" />

<Bjoern> <category set="Scherer" name="emotion" />

<Bjoern> <affect>

<Bjoern> <category set="everyday" name="anger" confidence="0.9" />

<Bjoern> </affect>

<Bjoern> </affect>

<felix> cant we simply allow more than one category per „affect“?

<felix> eg <affect> <cat name=“sad“/><cat name=“anger“/></affect>

<Christian> christian wonders why time information is not sufficient. If two emotions overlap in time they overlap is complex

<Christian> we could add an attribut isComplex=true to those emotions to make it more explicit

<felix> bye

<Idoia> bye

<Christian> just one more thought from Christian: Making it explicit might make it more easy for human readers to find overlaps

<Christian> and possibly also faster for parsers (looking for an attribute might be less expensive than calculating times)

<Christian> okay

<Christian> bye

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