IRC log of mwts on 2008-09-02

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14:58:53 [dom]

RRSAgent, make log public

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Zakim, this will be TS

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ok, dom, I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM already started

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Meeting: MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf

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Agenda:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0001.html

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Chair: Dom

14:59:54 [Zakim]

+ +47.24.16.aaaa

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zakim, code?

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the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom

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+??P26

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+Dom

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zakim, aaaa is Wilhelm

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+Wilhelm; got it

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+ +3aabb

15:02:39 [dom]

zakim, ??P26 is probably Kai

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+Kai?; got it

15:02:46 [dom]

zakim, aabb is Dmitri

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+Dmitri; got it

15:02:48 [dom]

zakim, who's on the call

15:02:49 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'who's on the call', dom

15:02:51 [dom]

zakim, who's on the call?

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On the phone I see Carmelo, Wilhelm, Kai?, Dom, Dmitri

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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Sep/0000.html Mobile Web Test Suites - next deliverables

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Dom: [introducing performance-based test suite - either for javascript or network, with a target on mobile devices]

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Kai: possibly interested, but not sure I can afford investing too much time in this

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Wilhelm: would be interesting to see how existing mobile browsers fare with existing tests

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... based on this, we could see whether we need to define tests more targeted to mobile devices

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Kai: the recent announcements of improvements to javascripts performance are quite interesting

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Dom: interesting idea to start from existing tests

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ACTION: Wilhelm to send a list of existing performance tests for analysis

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Dom: set of guidelines on how to write good mobile-oriented test cases

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Wilhelm: not sure that distinction is very useful; should target to write test cases that work on any device

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Dom: "device independence", good point

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http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/guidelines.html

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ACTION: Carmelo to start a draft of guidelines on writing device independent test cases

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Dom: [introducing the idea of bringing some help to other groups/other specs]

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Carmelo: Doug Schepers mentioned adding DOM Level 3 events to the harness

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Kai: Widgets is one of the things we do at work

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... I'll get in touch with Markus (the spec editor) to see if we can do something there

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ACTION: Kai to contact editor of Widgets packaging spec to see if testing is appropriate

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Kai: geolocation is also of interest to my

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s/my/me

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... not sure how to test it, though

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... it would be nice to have a validator that run a web Apps through various geolocation providers

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Dom: let's put it on the back burner for the time being

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... Another idea would be to work on test cases for cookies support

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Kai: of interest to me, as well

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... could also bring in privacy considerations

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ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for cookies

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Dom: [test harness]

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http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/test-harness/

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Kai: I'm eager to test plugin support

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ACTION: Kai to look into testing for plugin support

15:32:29 [Zakim]

-Carmelo

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-Kai?

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-Dom

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-Dmitri

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-Wilhelm

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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Carmelo, +47.24.16.aaaa, Dom, Wilhelm, +3aabb, Kai?, Dmitri

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RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html dom

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Zakim, bye

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