14:43:28 RRSAgent has joined #forms 14:43:28 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/08/27-forms-irc 14:44:47 unl has joined #forms 14:45:16 JohnBoyer has joined #forms 14:45:20 + +1.919.254.aaaa 14:45:33 zakim, this will be forms 14:45:33 ok, JohnBoyer, I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM already started 14:45:34 zakim, aaaa is wellsk 14:45:34 +wellsk; got it 14:45:41 rrsagent, make log public 14:45:46 klotz has joined #forms 14:46:12 zakim, who is noisy? 14:46:23 Charlie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: wellsk (15%) 14:46:27 +[IPcaller] 14:46:27 zakim, code? 14:46:28 the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), unl 14:46:37 zakim, mute me 14:46:37 wellsk should now be muted 14:46:42 zakim, i am [IPC 14:46:42 ok, kenneth, I now associate you with [IPcaller] 14:46:51 +??P5 14:47:05 -Charlie 14:47:07 +Leigh_Klotz 14:47:24 +[IBM] 14:47:32 zakim, [IBM] is Charlie 14:47:32 +Charlie; got it 14:47:37 Rafael has joined #forms 14:47:44 zakim, who is here? 14:47:44 On the phone I see wellsk (muted), [IPcaller], ??P5, Leigh_Klotz, Charlie 14:47:46 On IRC I see Rafael, klotz, JohnBoyer, unl, RRSAgent, Zakim, ebruchez, wellsk, Charlie, kenneth, Steven, trackbot 14:48:32 -[IPcaller] 14:48:37 Looks like my phone system is not working properly. Cannot get a dial tone. 14:48:38 zakim, ??P5 is me 14:48:38 +unl; got it 14:48:48 zakim, mute me 14:48:48 unl should now be muted 14:48:58 + +34.91.211.aabb 14:49:03 +??P8 14:49:11 zakim, i am ??P8 14:49:11 +kenneth; got it 14:49:12 zakim, dial steven-617 14:49:12 ok, Steven; the call is being made 14:49:13 +Steven 14:49:16 nick has joined #forms 14:49:29 zakim, code? 14:49:29 the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick 14:49:35 Charlie, do you think you would be able to follow through the agenda and get through the new instance module while I transport myself to another location? 14:49:55 +??P9 14:50:01 sure 14:50:04 zakim, I am ??P9 14:50:04 +nick; got it 14:50:39 am I still on? 14:50:47 yes on IRC 14:50:48 +John_Boyer 14:51:13 test 14:51:14 ping 14:51:15 test 14:52:44 Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon 14:52:59 Scribe: Leigh 14:53:13 Regrets: Roger 14:53:16 zakim, who is here 14:53:16 Rafael, you need to end that query with '?' 14:53:25 zakim, who is here? 14:53:25 On the phone I see wellsk (muted), unl (muted), Leigh_Klotz, Charlie, +34.91.211.aabb, kenneth, Steven, nick, John_Boyer 14:53:27 On IRC I see nick, Rafael, klotz, JohnBoyer, unl, RRSAgent, Zakim, ebruchez, wellsk, Charlie, kenneth, Steven, trackbot 14:53:30 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0072.html 14:53:36 JohnBoyer has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0072.html 14:53:55 Zakim, I am +34.91.211.aabb 14:53:55 +Rafael; got it 14:55:24 q+ 14:57:38 zakim, who is noisy? 14:57:49 JohnBoyer, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Charlie (100%), John_Boyer (13%) 14:58:12 zakim, mute me 14:58:12 John_Boyer should now be muted 14:58:14 q+ to mention ubiquity 14:58:23 q+ to mention TP day 14:58:40 Are others hearing the static? 14:58:51 since I muted? 15:02:31 prb has joined #forms 15:02:41 ack john 15:02:56 -John_Boyer 15:02:59 zakim, who is noisy? 15:03:10 Charlie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Charlie (38%), Leigh_Klotz (34%) 15:05:43 Zakim, code? 15:05:43 the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), prb 15:06:27 +??P10 15:06:42 zakim, I am ??P10 15:06:43 +prb; got it 15:08:04 zakim, unmute me 15:08:04 wellsk should no longer be muted 15:08:40 it's a dual license BSD and W3C test suite license 15:09:51 ACTION: Keith Wells to investigate http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0070.html licenses and report back. 15:09:51 Created ACTION-489 - Wells to investigate http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0070.html licenses and report back. [on Keith Wells - due 2008-09-03]. 15:10:37 zakim, mute me 15:10:37 wellsk should now be muted 15:11:30 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:11:30 On the phone I see wellsk (muted), unl (muted), Leigh_Klotz, Charlie, Rafael, kenneth, Steven, nick, prb 15:12:33 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/att-0055/index-all.html 15:17:23 + +1.650.515.aacc 15:17:35 zakim, +1.650.515.aacc is ebruchez 15:17:35 +ebruchez; got it 15:20:07 Charlie: do we maybe want reset? 15:34:21 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0029.html 15:35:22 + +1.250.294.aadd 15:36:45 JohnBoyer has joined #forms 15:37:00 zakim, who is here? 15:37:00 On the phone I see wellsk (muted), unl (muted), Leigh_Klotz, Charlie, Rafael, kenneth, Steven, nick, prb, ebruchez, +1.250.294.aadd 15:37:02 On IRC I see JohnBoyer, prb, nick, Rafael, klotz, unl, RRSAgent, Zakim, ebruchez, wellsk, Charlie, kenneth, Steven, trackbot 15:37:11 zakim, I am 1.250 15:37:11 sorry, JohnBoyer, I do not see a party named '1.250' 15:37:21 zakim, I am +1.259 15:37:21 sorry, JohnBoyer, I do not see a party named '+1.259' 15:37:32 zakim, I am +1.250 15:37:32 +JohnBoyer; got it 15:38:01 This draft alludes to supporting "chameleon" use of event elements and attributes. It is not clear that this is easily supportable by implementors. It may be that these elements and attributes must be in their own namespace. 15:38:38 from http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-events2/ 15:40:00 When XML Events are included in a host language, all of the facilities required in this specification MUST be included in the host language. In addition, the mandatory elements and attributes defined in this specification MUST be included in the content model of the host language. 15:40:48 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xml-events2 15:41:01 there's a new draft 15:41:14 I guess we just need to publish it 15:43:33 the diagram in the underlying DOM API is very nice 15:43:39 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xml-events-20080625/#hostconf 15:43:41 hash dashed lines down to the target 15:59:28 ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to prepare detailed analysis of effects of moving to XML Events 2 for XForms 1.2. 15:59:28 Created ACTION-490 - Van den Bleeken to prepare detailed analysis of effects of moving to XML Events 2 for XForms 1.2. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-09-03]. 16:02:28 steven sent in an e-mail about xsd 1.1 16:02:59 -Steven 16:03:50 zakim, dial steven-617 16:03:50 ok, Steven; the call is being made 16:03:52 +Steven 16:04:20 ACTION: Kenneth Sklander to send to list comments on XSD 1.1 for review for next week teleconference. 16:04:20 Created ACTION-491 - Sklander to send to list comments on XSD 1.1 for review for next week teleconference. [on Kenneth Sklander - due 2008-09-03]. 16:04:56 zakim, mute me 16:04:56 Steven should now be muted 16:11:26 ack me 16:11:27 Steven, you wanted to mention ubiquity and to mention TP day 16:13:30 zakim, unmute me 16:13:30 wellsk should no longer be muted 16:13:38 zakim, mute me 16:13:38 Steven should now be muted 16:14:17 -Charlie 16:16:02 zakim, who is here? 16:16:02 On the phone I see wellsk, unl (muted), Leigh_Klotz, Rafael, kenneth, Steven (muted), nick, prb, ebruchez, JohnBoyer 16:16:04 On IRC I see JohnBoyer, prb, nick, Rafael, klotz, unl, RRSAgent, Zakim, ebruchez, wellsk, Charlie, kenneth, Steven, trackbot 16:16:26 I need to go 16:16:46 Bye 16:16:49 zakim, unmute me 16:16:51 unl should no longer be muted 16:16:55 -Steven 16:17:33 bye 16:17:34 -Leigh_Klotz 16:17:36 -wellsk 16:17:36 -prb 16:17:38 -unl 16:17:39 wellsk has left #forms 16:17:40 -nick 16:17:42 -ebruchez 16:17:44 -JohnBoyer 16:17:46 -Rafael 16:17:48 -kenneth 16:17:50 HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended 16:17:50 Chair: Charlie, John 16:17:52 Attendees were Charlie, +1.919.254.aaaa, wellsk, [IPcaller], Leigh_Klotz, unl, +34.91.211.aabb, kenneth, Steven, nick, John_Boyer, Rafael, prb, ebruchez, +1.250.294.aadd, JohnBoyer 16:18:08 rrsagent, make minutes 16:18:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/08/27-forms-minutes.html JohnBoyer 16:18:12 rrsagent, bye 16:18:12 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/27-forms-actions.rdf : 16:18:12 ACTION: Keith Wells to investigate http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Aug/0070.html licenses and report back. [1] 16:18:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/27-forms-irc#T15-09-51 16:18:12 ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to prepare detailed analysis of effects of moving to XML Events 2 for XForms 1.2. [2] 16:18:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/27-forms-irc#T15-59-28 16:18:12 ACTION: Kenneth Sklander to send to list comments on XSD 1.1 for review for next week teleconference. [3] 16:18:12 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/27-forms-irc#T16-04-20