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13:50:16 <marc> marc has changed the topic to: Emotion Incubator discussions
13:50:28 <marc> agendum+ Future of EMOXG
13:50:35 <marc> agendum+ Next meetings
13:50:53 <marc> agendum+ XML discussion continued: scale value requirements
13:51:03 <marc> zakim, this will be INC_EMOXG
13:51:04 <Zakim> ok, marc; I see INC_EMOXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
13:59:06 <Zakim> INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has now started
13:59:13 <Zakim> +??P4
13:59:22 <marc> zakim, I am ??P4
13:59:22 <Zakim> +marc; got it
13:59:49 <Zakim> + +39.011.291.aaaa
14:00:14 <marc> zakim, aaaa is Enrico
14:00:14 <Zakim> +Enrico; got it
14:00:17 <Enrico> Enrico has joined #emotion
14:01:28 <felix> felix has joined #emotion
14:01:33 <Zakim> + +39.63.aabb
14:02:11 <marc> zakim, aabb is Catherine
14:02:11 <Zakim> +Catherine; got it
14:02:36 <catherine> catherine has joined #emotion
14:02:47 <Zakim> +Felix_Burkhardt
14:03:33 <felix> zakim, Felix_Burkhardt is felix
14:03:33 <Zakim> +felix; got it
14:05:11 <catherine> hello
14:05:45 <marc> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/group/IRC-Cheat-Sheet.html#scribe
14:06:21 <marc> next item
14:09:06 <catherine> Marc explains the 3 possibilites for the future of EMOXG (stop, continue as its own working group, join the multimodal interaction as a sub-group)
14:10:34 <catherine> all the participants of today meeting agree on the 3rd option (join MM interaction as a sub-group)
14:12:12 <catherine> ask in the mailing list if there are other opinions on this issue
14:16:23 <marc> next item
14:17:01 <Enrico> Thursday  4 September, 14:00 UTC
14:17:08 <Enrico> Thursday 18 September, 14:00 UTC
14:17:17 <Enrico> Thursday  2 October,   14:00 UTC
14:18:30 <catherine> next phone meetings: 4 sept, 2PM UTC; 18 sept 2PM UTC; 2 Oct 2PM UTC
14:18:54 <felix> i will attend the f2f only on the friday 24th
14:20:33 <marc> next item
14:20:34 <catherine> Marc: ask the participants who can come to the meeting in Cannes
14:21:57 <marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Jul/0008.html
14:30:18 <Zakim> + +035321425aacc
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14:30:47 <marc>  zakim, aacc is Dylan
14:30:47 <Zakim> +Dylan; got it
14:31:10 <cgi-irc> Dylan
14:33:03 <catherine> Marc presents the different issues regarding scales specification: numerical and linguistic
14:35:06 <catherine> Enrico: proposes to restrict the linguistic values to 5. pb of subjectivity arises with using higher number of linguistic scales 
14:44:20 <marc> unipolar scale:
14:44:24 <marc> ... +
14:44:26 <marc> ... ++
14:44:28 <marc> ... +++
14:44:31 <marc> ... ++++
14:44:35 <marc> ... +++++
14:52:30 <cgi-irc> unipolar scale:
14:52:33 <cgi-irc> 0
14:52:35 <cgi-irc> +
14:52:38 <cgi-irc> ++
14:52:44 <cgi-irc> +++
14:52:47 <catherine> Some conclusions were made: we tend to prefer 5 numbers for verbal cateogry
14:53:01 <cgi-irc> ++++
14:53:58 <catherine> open issue to be discussed: use abstract scale or linguistic scale
14:54:51 <marc> <emotion>
14:54:52 <marc>      <dimensions set="Arousal-and-Valence">
14:54:52 <marc>          <arousal value="very much" confidence="0.9"/>
14:54:52 <marc>          <valence value="slightly positive" confidence="0.3"/>
14:54:52 <marc>      </dimensions>
14:54:52 <marc> </emotion>
14:58:49 <marc> <emotion>
14:58:49 <marc>      <action-tendencies set="Frijda">
14:58:50 <marc>          <approach activation="(unipolar scale)"/>
14:58:50 <marc>          <avoidance activation="(unipolar scale)"/>
14:58:50 <marc>          <being-with activation="(unipolar scale)"/>
14:58:50 <marc>          ...
14:58:52 <marc>      </action-tendencies>
14:58:55 <marc> </emotion>
14:59:06 <catherine> Regarding sub-element of Core 3, 4, ...: need to verify the values (eg appraisal dimensions) from a repository
15:00:07 <catherine> Core 5: we should stick to values
15:00:07 <marc> <emotion>
15:00:07 <marc>      <intensity value="(unipolar scale)"/>
15:00:07 <marc> </emotion>
15:00:19 <marc> <emotion>
15:00:19 <marc>      <intensity value="0.1" confidence="0.8"/>
15:00:19 <marc>      <category set="everyday" name="boredom" confidence="0.1"/>
15:00:20 <marc> </emotion>
15:01:26 <catherine> Core 6: Intensity should be a separate element rather than an attribute
15:02:04 <catherine> Confidence: use same type of scale
15:02:41 <felix> bye
15:02:46 <Zakim> -Dylan
15:02:46 <Zakim> -felix
15:02:48 <Enrico> bye
15:02:56 <Zakim> -Enrico
15:03:18 <cgi-irc> #quit
15:03:42 <cgi-irc> \quit
15:07:10 <catherine> Meeting: Emotion Incubator meeting
15:07:44 <catherine> Chair: marc
15:08:02 <catherine> Scribe: catherine
15:08:03 <marc> Present: Catherine, Felix, Enrico, Dylan, Marc
15:08:12 <marc> Regrets: Ian, Bill, Bjoern, Paolo
15:08:22 <catherine> ScribeNick: cath
15:08:46 <catherine> ScribeNick: catherine
15:08:57 <marc> rrsagent, make logs public
15:09:10 <marc> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:09:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/08/21-emotion-minutes.html marc
15:11:42 <Zakim> -marc
15:11:44 <Zakim> -Catherine
15:11:46 <Zakim> INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has ended
15:11:46 <marc> zakim, bye
15:11:46 <Zakim> Zakim has left #emotion
15:11:47 <Zakim> Attendees were marc, +39.011.291.aaaa, Enrico, +39.63.aabb, Catherine, felix, +035321425aacc, Dylan
15:11:50 <marc> rrsagent, bye
15:11:50 <RRSAgent> I see no action items