W3C

-DRAFT- EOWG 15 Aug 2008

Agenda

  1. Experiences Mobile-Accessible doc - detailed review of content (Shawn's notes)

Attendees

Present
Yeliz, Liam, Wayne, Shawn
Regrets
Doyle, Henny, Helle, Andrew, Sharron, Sylvie, Shadi
Chair
Shawn
Scribe
Liam

Contents


Shared Web Experiences Doc

<shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/experiences-new

Liam: two options: one - to treat the tab format and lin format links as button elements, and have them below the contents, and have it change the page content but not load a new page.
... option 2 is to add another page, the Overview, and put the intro text and contents into the overview, and have the tabular format just the table, the linear format just the linear.

fyi, they're copied from this: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/Overview.html

Wayne: suggest Linear as the default format, and offer an alternative table view

Yeliz: Good idea

Shawn: link above or below the TOC?

Liam: suggest below.

Shawn: means can use normal page layout for linear format.

Yeliz: tabular format - have TOC at top. Means you can skim through.

Liam: not sure.

Wayne: agree with Yeliz

Liam: concede to Yeliz.

<shawn> ACTION: Shawn, write up today's suggestions for EOWG review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action01]

<shawn> ACTION: yeliz, make the linear version the main page, add in the WAI nav. remove the "toggle" and put a sentence linking to the table version. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action04]

<shawn> ACTION: Yeliz. table verion - remove the "toggle" and intro paragraphs. add link to main version at top (& my bottom) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action05]

<shawn> ACTION: yeliz, check latest best practices for table captions & summaries [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action06]

Liam: no concerns now, happy to let the document go as is

Wayne: agree

<shawn> ACTION: shawn - address Natasha's comment #2 on the overall document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action07]

<shawn> "People with disabilities (using desktop or laptop computers) and people without disabilities who are using mobile devices have similar interaction limitations ..."

<shawn> Delete parenthesis in the first sentence to be consistent or maybe even to tighten the sentence: People with disabilities using computers and people without disabilities who are using mobile devices have similar limitations

<shawn> People with disabilities using computers have similar interaction limitations as people without disabilities who are using mobile devices. [Both] experience similar barriers when interacting with Web sites.

<shawn> People with disabilities using computers have similar limitations to people without disabilities who are using mobile devices. Both experience similar barriers when using Web sites.

<yeliz> Both also experience similar barriers when using Web sites and there is also significant overlap between the design solutions for both.

<shawn> Both also experience similar barriers when using poorly designed Web sites.

<shawn> Both experience similar barriers when using poorly designed Web sites.

<shawn> There is also significant overlap between the design solutions for both.

<shawn> Well designed Web sites avoid barriers for both [with similar deisgn solutions]

<yeliz> Well designed Web sites can remove barriers for both.

<shawn> Liam: Liam removing barriers for one set of users will remove many of the barriers for the other. There is a lot of overlap.

Wayne and Liam: we trust Yeliz.

WAI-ARIA implementation, AT implementation

<yeliz> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Accessible_DHTML

<shawn> User Agent Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 Requirements <http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG20-requirements/>

<shawn> UAAG Overview page <http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/uaag.php>

<shawn> wayne: Good work, Yeliz.

<shawn> Liam: yes, excellent.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: shawn - address Natasha's comment #2 on the overall document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Shawn, write up today's suggestions for EOWG review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: yeliz, check latest best practices for table captions & summaries [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: yeliz, make the linear version the main page, add in the WAI nav. remove the "toggle" and put a sentence linking to the table version. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Yeliz. table verion - remove the "toggle" and intro paragraphs. add link to main version at top (& my bottom) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/15-eo-minutes.html#action05]
 
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