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14:50:54 <TomB> rrsagent, bookmark
14:50:54 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2008/08/05-swd-irc#T14-50-54
14:50:59 <TomB> zakim, this will be swd
14:50:59 <Zakim> ok, TomB; I see SW_SWD()11:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
14:51:06 <TomB> Meeting: SWD WG
14:51:08 <TomB> Chair: Tom
14:51:23 <TomB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Aug/0009.html
14:51:41 <TomB> Regrets: Guus, Vit, Elisa, Jon
14:52:44 <TomB> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-swd-minutes.html
14:52:50 <TomB> rrsagent, please make record public
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15:03:56 <Zakim> +berrueta; got it
15:04:26 <Zakim> +[LC]
15:04:33 <TomB> zakim, LC is Edsu
15:04:38 <Zakim> +Edsu; got it
15:04:52 <TomB> Scribe: Antoine
15:05:02 <TomB> Scribenick: Antoine
15:05:44 <Antoine> Topic: admin
15:05:53 <Antoine> PROPOSED to accept minutes of the last telecon
15:06:04 <Antoine> RESOLVED to accept minutes of last telecon
15:06:32 <Antoine> Topic: RDFa
15:07:03 <Antoine> Ben: we have finished CR [?] the test suite is complete now
15:07:18 <Antoine> ... 2 implementation pass the test
15:07:27 <Antoine> ... the implementation report is going ok
15:07:46 <Antoine> ... They were a couple of comments on Syntax and Primer
15:07:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:07:59 <Antoine> ... non of these imply big changes
15:08:09 <Antoine> ... more editorial changes
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15:08:24 <Antoine> ... The issues are in the tracker
15:08:36 <JeremyCarroll> Yes
15:08:44 <Antoine> ... we want to provide the documents for next meeting (in 2 weeks)
15:08:48 <TomB> zakim, IPcaller is JeremyCarroll
15:08:48 <Zakim> +JeremyCarroll; got it
15:09:00 <Antoine> .. we weren't sure whether we need a full review for that
15:09:08 <Antoine> ... as there won't be significant changes
15:09:42 <Antoine> Tom: since the changes are editorial, reviewers should not think as thoroughly
15:10:00 <Antoine> ... rather double-check that the task force has answered to the comments
15:10:08 <Zakim> +??P37
15:10:25 <Antoine> ... It would be good to have reviewers' input 
15:10:36 <Antoine> ... on the examples that had to be rewritten
15:10:50 <Antoine> ... Diego, Ed, are you ok with that?
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15:11:09 <Antoine> Diego, Ed: we're happy to do this!
15:11:48 <Antoine> Ben: let's aim at giving you documents and list of issues in two week times
15:11:56 <Antoine> Tom: which documents?
15:12:12 <Antoine> Ben: the only thing that is normative is the syntax
15:12:27 <Zakim> +??P36
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15:12:30 <Antoine> .. I can propose the implementation reports as well
15:12:32 <seanb> zakim, ??P36 is me
15:12:34 <Zakim> +seanb; got it
15:12:51 <Antoine> Ben: the Primer will be changed, but just some notes
15:13:09 <Antoine> Tom: so the two documents for the reviewers are Syntax and Implementation report
15:13:14 <Zakim> +??P39
15:13:22 <Antoine> Tom: expected date?
15:14:08 <Antoine> Ben: 19th August
15:14:13 <Zakim> -JeremyCarroll
15:14:14 <TomB> zakim, ??p39 is Margherita
15:14:14 <Zakim> +Margherita; got it
15:14:15 <Antoine> ... for the documents to be available
15:14:35 <Zakim> +??P0
15:15:05 <Antoine> Ben: if the changes are minor, would e-mail exchange be acceptable?
15:15:21 <Antoine> .. I cannot promise earlier
15:15:39 <Antoine> Tom: my preference would be for having a call, I'll check with Guus
15:15:52 <Antoine> ... maybe a decision can be made for Aug 26
15:15:59 <JeremyCarroll> q+ to ask Alan's disposition
15:16:11 <TomB> ack JeremyCarroll
15:16:11 <Zakim> JeremyCarroll, you wanted to ask Alan's disposition
15:16:19 <Antoine> Jemery: what is Alan's take on this?
15:16:27 <Antoine> Ben: we have not yet answered all his points
15:16:36 <Antoine> ... believe that it is most editorial
15:16:46 <Antoine> Jemery: there should be agreement on that
15:16:55 <Antoine> s/Jemery/Jeremy
15:17:01 <Antoine> Be: yes
15:17:07 <Antoine> s/Be/Ben
15:17:26 <JeremyCarroll> A meeting would be necessary if a commentator is not happy.
15:18:04 <Antoine> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
15:18:10 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:18:19 <Antoine> Topic: SKOS
15:18:52 <Antoine> Tom: we need to set the Last Call period
15:19:05 <Antoine> ... and plan for finalizing for the SKOS Primer
15:19:22 <seanb> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20080730/Overview.html
15:19:36 <Antoine> Tom: what is the status of the Reference for internal review?
15:19:51 <Antoine> Sean: Guus is reviewing the quoted document this week
15:20:14 <Antoine> Margherita: I agree to be a second reviewer
15:20:27 <Antoine> Tom: we have a pending issue that need to be resolved
15:20:41 <Antoine> ... before we can approve the Last Call
15:21:05 <Antoine> ... Sean, is ISSUE-83 and proposed solution in the draft?
15:21:09 <Antoine> Sean: yes
15:21:28 <Antoine> ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02]
15:21:34 <Antoine> --CONTINUES
15:21:45 <Antoine> ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08]
15:21:49 <Antoine> --CONTINUES
15:21:58 <Antoine> ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06]
15:22:05 <Antoine> --CONTINUES
15:23:54 <Antoine> ACTION: Alistair to update the history page adding direct link to latest version of rdf triple [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-swd-minutes.html#action01]
15:23:57 <Antoine> --CONTINUES
15:24:14 <Antoine> ACTION: SKOS Reference Editors to specifically flag features at risk for Last Call. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-swd-minutes.html#action17]
15:24:17 <Antoine> --DONE
15:24:25 <Antoine> Sean: that's done in the latest draft
15:24:37 <Antoine> ACTION: Sean to post comment to OWL WG re annotation requirements.  [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-swd-minutes.html#action06]
15:24:39 <Antoine> --DONE
15:24:47 <Antoine> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0083.html
15:24:59 <Antoine> ACTION: Alistair to open issue relating to topConceptOf and propose a resolution. [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-swd-minutes.html#action12]
15:25:02 <Antoine> --DONE
15:25:09 <Antoine> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0080.html
15:25:29 <Antoine> Tom: I'd suggest we vote on it now
15:25:34 <Antoine> Sean: agreed
15:25:42 <Antoine> Tom: is there any discussion?
15:26:08 <Antoine> PROPOSED to accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0080.html as a resolution to ISSUE-83
15:26:20 <Antoine> RESOLVED to accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0080.html as a resolution to ISSUE-83
15:27:40 <Antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0094.html
15:28:01 <edsu> +1
15:28:13 <Antoine> ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06]
15:28:32 <Antoine> --DONE
15:29:14 <Antoine> Ed: should XL be in the Primer?
15:29:47 <Antoine> Antoine: there should be some not mentioning it and clarifying its use
15:29:50 <TomB> +1 agree on adding XL to Primer
15:29:56 <Antoine> s/not/notes
15:30:30 <Zakim> -??P37
15:30:45 <Antoine> ACTION: Ed to write a note on SKOS-XL in the Primer
15:31:29 <Antoine> Ed: about the coordination issue I'm not completely sure on how to address that
15:32:02 <Antoine> Topic: Minimum RDFa metadata set for WG deliverables
15:32:19 <Antoine> Tom: what do you think we might do with it
15:32:29 <Antoine> ... in terms of a small but perhaps useful note?
15:32:52 <Antoine> Diego: two choices: let the wiki page as such or try to write a doc
15:33:21 <Antoine> Tom: my preference would be to write it as a note
15:33:31 <Antoine> ... and make some WG decision to publish that
15:33:48 <Antoine> ... Not anything more expansive than what we have on the wiki
15:34:03 <Antoine> ... Would you agree to become the editor of such note?
15:34:22 <Antoine> Diego: Yes
15:34:40 <Antoine> ... maybe next week I can have the very same inf as on wiki reformated as a document
15:34:47 <Antoine> s/inf/info
15:34:55 <edsu> berrueta++
15:35:33 <Antoine> Ed: I'd be interested at looking over it
15:36:06 <Antoine> ACTION: Diego to put the Wiki page on RDFa metadata in a Note form
15:36:27 <Antoine> Topic: Recipes
15:36:47 <Antoine> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
15:36:50 <Antoine> --CONTINUES
15:37:00 <Antoine> ACTION: Jon and Ralph to publish Recipes as Working Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action03]
15:37:03 <Antoine> --CONTINUES
15:37:17 <Antoine> Tom: I propose that we conclude for today
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15:37:53 <TomB> zakim, who was on the call
15:37:53 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who was on the call', TomB
15:38:00 <TomB> zakim, please list attendees
15:38:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been TomB, dlrubin, +0122427aaaa, qreul, Antoine_Isaac, Ben_Adida, berrueta, Edsu, JeremyCarroll, seanb, Margherita
15:38:26 <TomB> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:38:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/08/05-swd-minutes.html TomB
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15:48:14 <Antoine> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosPrimer20080221
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15:51:30 <Zakim> Attendees were TomB, dlrubin, +0122427aaaa, qreul, Antoine_Isaac, Ben_Adida, berrueta, Edsu, JeremyCarroll, seanb, Margherita
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