IRC log of swd on 2008-08-05

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14:50:54 [TomB]

rrsagent, bookmark

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See http://www.w3.org/2008/08/05-swd-irc#T14-50-54

14:50:59 [TomB]

zakim, this will be swd

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ok, TomB; I see SW_SWD()11:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes

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Meeting: SWD WG

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Chair: Tom

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Aug/0009.html

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Regrets: Guus, Vit, Elisa, Jon

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Previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-swd-minutes.html

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rrsagent, please make record public

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SW_SWD()11:00AM has now started

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+??P2

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zakim, ??p2 is me

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+TomB; got it

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+??P5

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zakim, ??p5 is dlrubin

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+dlrubin; got it

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+ +0122427aaaa

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zakim, aaaa is qreul

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+qreul; got it

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-dlrubin

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+Antoine_Isaac

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+Ben_Adida

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+[CTIC]

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Zakim, [CTIC] is me

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+berrueta; got it

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+[LC]

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zakim, LC is Edsu

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+Edsu; got it

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Scribe: Antoine

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Scribenick: Antoine

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Topic: admin

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PROPOSED to accept minutes of the last telecon

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RESOLVED to accept minutes of last telecon

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Topic: RDFa

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Ben: we have finished CR [?] the test suite is complete now

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... 2 implementation pass the test

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... the implementation report is going ok

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... They were a couple of comments on Syntax and Primer

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+[IPcaller]

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... non of these imply big changes

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... more editorial changes

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... The issues are in the tracker

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Yes

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... we want to provide the documents for next meeting (in 2 weeks)

15:08:48 [TomB]

zakim, IPcaller is JeremyCarroll

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+JeremyCarroll; got it

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.. we weren't sure whether we need a full review for that

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... as there won't be significant changes

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Tom: since the changes are editorial, reviewers should not think as thoroughly

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... rather double-check that the task force has answered to the comments

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+??P37

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... It would be good to have reviewers' input

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... on the examples that had to be rewritten

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... Diego, Ed, are you ok with that?

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Diego, Ed: we're happy to do this!

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Ben: let's aim at giving you documents and list of issues in two week times

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Tom: which documents?

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Ben: the only thing that is normative is the syntax

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+??P36

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.. I can propose the implementation reports as well

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zakim, ??P36 is me

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+seanb; got it

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Ben: the Primer will be changed, but just some notes

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Tom: so the two documents for the reviewers are Syntax and Implementation report

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+??P39

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Tom: expected date?

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Ben: 19th August

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-JeremyCarroll

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zakim, ??p39 is Margherita

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+Margherita; got it

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... for the documents to be available

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+??P0

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Ben: if the changes are minor, would e-mail exchange be acceptable?

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.. I cannot promise earlier

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Tom: my preference would be for having a call, I'll check with Guus

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... maybe a decision can be made for Aug 26

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q+ to ask Alan's disposition

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ack JeremyCarroll

15:16:11 [Zakim]

JeremyCarroll, you wanted to ask Alan's disposition

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Jemery: what is Alan's take on this?

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Ben: we have not yet answered all his points

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... believe that it is most editorial

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Jemery: there should be agreement on that

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s/Jemery/Jeremy

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Be: yes

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s/Be/Ben

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A meeting would be necessary if a commentator is not happy.

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ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]

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-- CONTINUES

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Topic: SKOS

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Tom: we need to set the Last Call period

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... and plan for finalizing for the SKOS Primer

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-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20080730/Overview.html

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Tom: what is the status of the Reference for internal review?

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Sean: Guus is reviewing the quoted document this week

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Margherita: I agree to be a second reviewer

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Tom: we have a pending issue that need to be resolved

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... before we can approve the Last Call

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... Sean, is ISSUE-83 and proposed solution in the draft?

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Sean: yes

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ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02]

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--CONTINUES

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ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08]

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--CONTINUES

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ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06]

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--CONTINUES

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ACTION: Alistair to update the history page adding direct link to latest version of rdf triple [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-swd-minutes.html#action01]

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ACTION: SKOS Reference Editors to specifically flag features at risk for Last Call. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-swd-minutes.html#action17]

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--DONE

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Sean: that's done in the latest draft

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ACTION: Sean to post comment to OWL WG re annotation requirements. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-swd-minutes.html#action06]

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--DONE

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see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0083.html

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ACTION: Alistair to open issue relating to topConceptOf and propose a resolution. [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-swd-minutes.html#action12]

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--DONE

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see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0080.html

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Tom: I'd suggest we vote on it now

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Sean: agreed

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Tom: is there any discussion?

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PROPOSED to accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0080.html as a resolution to ISSUE-83

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RESOLVED to accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jul/0080.html as a resolution to ISSUE-83

15:27:40 [Antoine]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0094.html

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+1

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ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06]

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--DONE

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Ed: should XL be in the Primer?

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Antoine: there should be some not mentioning it and clarifying its use

15:29:50 [TomB]

+1 agree on adding XL to Primer

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s/not/notes

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-??P37

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ACTION: Ed to write a note on SKOS-XL in the Primer

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Ed: about the coordination issue I'm not completely sure on how to address that

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Topic: Minimum RDFa metadata set for WG deliverables

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Tom: what do you think we might do with it

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... in terms of a small but perhaps useful note?

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Diego: two choices: let the wiki page as such or try to write a doc

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Tom: my preference would be to write it as a note

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... and make some WG decision to publish that

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... Not anything more expansive than what we have on the wiki

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... Would you agree to become the editor of such note?

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Diego: Yes

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... maybe next week I can have the very same inf as on wiki reformated as a document

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s/inf/info

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berrueta++

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Ed: I'd be interested at looking over it

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ACTION: Diego to put the Wiki page on RDFa metadata in a Note form

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Topic: Recipes

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ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]

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--CONTINUES

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ACTION: Jon and Ralph to publish Recipes as Working Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action03]

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--CONTINUES

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Tom: I propose that we conclude for today

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-qreul

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-Margherita

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-JeremyCarroll

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-berrueta

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t

15:37:53 [TomB]

zakim, who was on the call

15:37:53 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'who was on the call', TomB

15:38:00 [TomB]

zakim, please list attendees

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As of this point the attendees have been TomB, dlrubin, +0122427aaaa, qreul, Antoine_Isaac, Ben_Adida, berrueta, Edsu, JeremyCarroll, seanb, Margherita

15:38:26 [TomB]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/08/05-swd-minutes.html TomB

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-seanb

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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosPrimer20080221

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-TomB

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-Antoine_Isaac

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-Edsu

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-Ben_Adida

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SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended

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Attendees were TomB, dlrubin, +0122427aaaa, qreul, Antoine_Isaac, Ben_Adida, berrueta, Edsu, JeremyCarroll, seanb, Margherita

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