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15:57:33 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-irc
15:57:46 Zakim, this will be html
15:57:47 ok, DanC; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
15:58:19 oh, I'm around for the html wg meeting today, interesting
15:58:24 agenda?
15:58:36 agenda+ ask for additional agenda items
15:59:09 HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
15:59:16 +Gregory_Rosmaita
15:59:28 + +1.218.349.aaaa
15:59:28 agenda+ review overdue actions from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
15:59:31 -Gregory_Rosmaita
15:59:32 +Gregory_Rosmaita
15:59:38 +Julian
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15:59:55 +[Microsoft]
15:59:59 zakim, microsoft is me
16:00:01 +ChrisWilson; got it
16:00:26 -Gregory_Rosmaita
16:01:00 agenda+ review action items due today
16:01:02 +Gregory_Rosmaita
16:01:12 zakim, mute Gregory_Rosmaita
16:01:12 Gregory_Rosmaita should now be muted
16:01:15 review issues discussed this week
16:01:31 zakim, take up item 1
16:01:31 agendum 1. "ask for additional agenda items" taken up [from ChrisWilson]
16:01:40 +DanC
16:01:51 always forget that... aAny offers to scribe?
16:02:22 meeting: html-wg chair: ChrisWilson
16:02:57 Dan: could you say something?
16:03:00 -ChrisWilson
16:03:18 +[Microsoft]
16:03:24 + +0161442aabb
16:03:30 zakim, microsoft is me
16:03:30 +ChrisWilson; got it
16:03:37 zakim, who is on the phone
16:03:37 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', ChrisWilson
16:03:44 Zakim, who's talking?
16:03:54 DanC, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +0161442aabb (8%), +1.218.349.aaaa (79%), DanC (69%)
16:04:08 zakim, 1.218.349.aaaa is Laura
16:04:08 sorry, Laura, I do not recognize a party named '1.218.349.aaaa'
16:04:16 Zakim, mute Laura
16:04:16 sorry, DanC, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Laura
16:04:18 +??P14
16:04:19 zakim, aaaa is Laura
16:04:20 +Laura; got it
16:04:26 Zakim, mute Laura
16:04:26 Laura should now be muted
16:04:45 zakim, unmute Laura
16:04:45 Laura should no longer be muted
16:04:50 regrets+ Joshue
16:04:53 Zakim: +0161442aabb is me
16:04:57 zakim, mute Laura
16:04:57 Laura should now be muted
16:05:03 Zakim, aabb is takkaria
16:05:03 +takkaria; got it
16:05:16 scribe: DanC
16:05:30 zakim, agenda?
16:05:30 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
16:05:32 1. ask for additional agenda items [from ChrisWilson]
16:05:34 2. review overdue actions from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda [from ChrisWilson]
16:05:35 3. review action items due today [from ChrisWilson]
16:05:36 rrsagent, make minutes
16:05:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:05:50 any additional agenda items? Going once...twice...?
16:06:01 zakim, close item 1
16:06:01 agendum 1, ask for additional agenda items, closed
16:06:02 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:06:03 2. review overdue actions from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda [from ChrisWilson]
16:06:09 zakim, take up item 2
16:06:09 agendum 2. "review overdue actions from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda" taken up [from ChrisWilson]
16:06:11 zakim, present+ robburns
16:06:12 I don't understand 'present+ robburns', robburns
16:06:42 present+ robburns
16:06:43 action-73 on dan...
16:06:55 rrsagent, make minutes
16:06:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:07:34 rrsagent, set logs world-visible
16:07:38 rrsagent, make minutes
16:07:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:07:41 ACTION-73?
16:07:41 ACTION-73 -- Dan Connolly to follow up on WAI-ARIA markup thread, emphasizing the conformance point -- due 2008-07-31 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:07:41 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/73
16:08:23 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria - new editor's draft impending
16:08:44 new conformance wording and host embedding verbiage - will be pushed to TR space soon
16:08:52 DanC: in progress.
16:09:02 good to know, oedipus
16:09:06 zakim, call shepazu
16:09:06 ok, shepazu; the call is being made
16:09:08 +Shepazu
16:09:32 zakim, close item 2
16:09:32 agendum 2, review overdue actions from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda, closed
16:09:34 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
16:09:35 3. review action items due today [from ChrisWilson]
16:09:37 zakim, take up item 3
16:09:37 agendum 3. "review action items due today" taken up [from ChrisWilson]
16:10:06 due today: action-23, on Joshue
16:10:09 action-23?
16:10:09 ACTION-23 -- Joshue O Connor to coordinate tests using ARIA -- due 2008-07-31 -- OPEN
16:10:09 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/23
16:10:29 danC, the new TR has revised verbiage about host language embedding and aaron leventhal is working with a team of implementors on a User Agent Implementation Guide to ARIA
16:11:08 q+
16:11:37 ack oedipus
16:11:46 yes?
16:11:46 zakim, unmute Gregory_Rosmaita
16:11:46 Gregory_Rosmaita should no longer be muted
16:12:19 GR: at our last ftf [when?] we discussed test suite building and who was to do which parts...
16:12:48 ... but we're working on issues on host language embedding...
16:12:55 ... to appear in upcoming WD
16:13:09 q+
16:13:22 ack DanC
16:14:48 action-23?
16:14:48 ACTION-23 -- Joshue O Connor to coordinate tests using ARIA -- due 2008-10-01 -- OPEN
16:14:48 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/23
16:15:24 action-54?
16:15:24 ACTION-54 -- Chris Wilson to ask PF WG to look at drafted text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements -- due 2008-07-31 -- OPEN
16:15:24 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/54
16:15:30 We are still waiting for a reply from the PFWG for Action Item 54 regarding
16:15:36 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Mar/0234.html
16:15:42 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Apr/0408.html
16:15:52 Action 54 is dependent on PF's response. Request for an Action Item 54 time extension until there is a response from the PFWG.
16:15:52 Sorry, couldn't find user - 54
16:16:05 http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/MediaSpecifcElements might be of interest, too
16:16:22 done
16:16:24 CW: on action-54, I meant to set the date to 6 Aug; we're waiting for something from WAI PF
16:16:38 takkaria, that's a rudimentary collection page for PF issues to coordinate with and review for HTML5
16:16:55 http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5 is main page
16:17:06 zakim, close item 3
16:17:06 agendum 3, review action items due today, closed
16:17:07 I see nothing remaining on the agenda
16:17:18 takkaria, the media specific elements is an action item i have from the PF face to face
16:17:24 review issues discussed
16:17:50 takkaria, we (PF) were asked to outline and define requirements
16:17:59 (that is, we will now review any issues from the list discussed this week)
16:18:16 status update on SVG-in-html from Doug
16:18:18 Topic: ISSUE-37 html-svg-mathml
16:18:56 DS: there's discussion on SVG itself and on more general integration issues
16:18:59 +[Microsoft]
16:19:23 s/that's a/that's part of a
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16:19:28 rrsagent, make minutes
16:19:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:19:45 regrets+ Josh_O_Connor
16:19:54 DS: Hixie says he hasn't yet reviewed the SVG WG proposal. Some comments from hsivonen are pending; vacations make progress slow
16:20:21 any other issues to discuss?
16:20:54 Topic: publication schedule
16:20:58 ARIA User Agent Implementors Guide (Moz Dev doc) - http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/ARIA_to_API_mapping
16:21:07 DS: I note recent mail from Mike Smith re publication schedule
16:21:58 next steps on forms? GJR's thoughts (logged as part of survey/vote): http://esw.w3.org/topic/GregoryRosmaita/FormsFeedback2008-07
16:22:27 CW: overly frequent publication is somewhat expensive for me, for monitoring the scope
16:23:22 requirements & recommendations on forms in HTML5: http://esw.w3.org/topic/GregoryRosmaita/FormsFeedback2008-07
16:23:53 DS: forms likely to land in October?
16:24:09 CW: or sooner; as forms are clearly in our charter, that's not burdensome
16:24:30 zakim, who's on the phone?
16:24:30 On the phone I see Laura (muted), Julian, Gregory_Rosmaita, DanC, ChrisWilson, takkaria, ??P14, Shepazu, [Microsoft]
16:24:49 zakim, ??P14 is robburns
16:24:49 +robburns; got it
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16:25:08 :-)
16:25:11 (but we do need to honor the publication schedule)
16:25:45 zakim, microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
16:25:45 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
16:26:06 move to adjourn
16:26:09 second
16:26:14 adjourned.
16:26:17 bye
16:26:18 -Cynthia_Shelly
16:26:19 -takkaria
16:26:20 ok
16:26:21 -Gregory_Rosmaita
16:26:23 -Julian
16:26:28 -ChrisWilson
16:26:29 RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:26:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
16:26:29 -Shepazu
16:26:38 -Laura
16:26:39 thanks Dan, for scribing
16:26:39 -robburns
16:27:13 chair: Chris_Wilson
16:27:20 meeting: HTML WG Weekly Call
16:27:24 rrsagent, make minutes
16:27:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:28:36 meeting- html-wg chair: ChrisWilson
16:28:50 meeting+ HTML WG Issue Tracking Telecon
16:28:56 chair+ Chris_Wilson
16:29:00 rrsagent, make minutes
16:29:00 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:30:34 s/html-wg chair: ChrisWilson/HTML WG Issue Tracking Telecon
16:30:38 rrsagent, make minutes
16:30:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:31:06 yeah, I don't understand how this is supposed to work?
16:31:23 I thought maybe asking zakim who's on the phone would add the phone attendees to the present list
16:31:34 yes, it does
16:31:37 zakim, please part
16:31:37 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, +1.218.349.aaaa, Julian, ChrisWilson, DanC, +0161442aabb, Laura, takkaria, Shepazu, robburns, Cynthia_Shelly
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16:31:42 rrsagent, make minutes
16:31:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:32:03 oedipus: could you remove my number from the minutes (+0161442aabb) somehow?
16:32:07 present+ Laura_Carlson
16:32:22 takkaria - i will try, but rrsagent isn't always accomodating
16:32:40 present- [+1.218.349.aaaa]
16:32:45 present+ takkaria
16:32:49 rrsagent, make minutes
16:32:49 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:33:07 present- aaaa
16:33:07 I can probably get the number out of the minutes
16:33:28 present- aabb
16:33:31 rrsagent, make minutes
16:33:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:35:25 it's still got my number in it, but yeah, I go by takkaria
16:36:26 s/html-wg chair: ChrisWilson/HTML WG Issue Tracking Telecon
16:36:31 rrsagent, make minutes
16:36:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:37:19 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2008JulSep/0016.html
16:37:22 rrsagent, make minutes
16:37:22 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html oedipus
16:37:55 Nice work, Gregory.
16:38:06 DanC, i'll leave the rest of the clean up to you - that's all i can do with the tools i have at my disposal
16:38:33 no problem :-)
16:38:53 did you see my last post on the a11y conformance label and checkers?
16:39:19 DanC, should i dismiss rrsagent so that you have less to clean out from the end of the minutes?
16:39:56 no need, thanks
16:40:07 i'll let you take it from here, then
16:40:37 the only bits are the phone numbers and all of the after-meeting administrivia and chatter
16:41:24 is there any way to attend the telecon using voip?
16:42:04 hold on a second, it's too hot here to think without double-checking (32 C)
16:42:48 takkaria, check: http://www.w3.org/2007/11/VoIP
16:43:33 takkaria, i know there are those who do, and i'll be joining their ranks soon, so i need to brush up on what's required myself
16:45:16 also: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
16:46:40 takkaria, you might try emailing ted guild (http://www.w3.org/People/Ted) (ted@w3.org) or ralph swick (http://www.w3.org/People/all#swick) (swick@w3.org) or inquire of the systeam
16:56:05 Cheers all
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18:22:22 Meeting: HTML WG Weekly
18:22:26 RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:22:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
18:23:09 Present: ChrisWilson, Cynthia_Shelly, DanC, Gregory_Rosmaita, Julian, Laura, Laura_Carlson, Shepazu, robburns, takkaria
18:23:11 RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:23:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
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18:44:19 Zakim, bye
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21:20:07 ok i checked my traceroute AS i got disconnected and saw no problems
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