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15:47:19 <rmerric> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008Jul/0020.html
15:48:13 <rmerric> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
15:48:35 <rmerric> Zakim, this will be WS_SOAP-JM
15:48:36 <Zakim> ok, rmerric; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
15:49:33 <Roland> Chair: Roland
15:57:56 <Zakim> WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
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15:59:52 <Phil> Zakim, [IBM] is Phil
15:59:52 <Zakim> sorry, Phil, I do not recognize a party named '[IBM]'
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16:00:40 <Phil> Zakim, [IBM] is Phil
16:00:40 <Zakim> +Phil; got it
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16:05:51 <Roland> Zakim, TIBCO is Eric
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16:07:15 <eric> Eric's action item - not complete.
16:07:26 <eric> Phil's action item - writing initial test cases - done.
16:07:40 <Roland> Topic: test cases
16:08:00 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008Jul/0018.html
16:12:22 <eric> Phil walking us through the sample test case.
16:12:33 <eric> Phil thinks we should use an XML format, as Glen suggested.
16:12:56 <eric> Phil: not likely that we can use exactly what WS-Addressing does, but maybe only a small delta.
16:13:45 <eric> Glen: Yes - use something similar, but with some different slots - probably different tweaks.
16:14:05 <eric> Roland: Are you familiar with the format Glen?
16:14:25 <eric> Glen: not really.
16:14:33 <eric> Glen: I can do the XML end.
16:14:41 <eric> Eric: I can work the XSLT side of the problem.
16:15:39 <eric> Glen: Can try to work on the XML changes this week.
16:15:43 <eric> Roland: End of this week?
16:16:25 <eric> Roland: Any other comments on what Phil has done so far?
16:17:12 <eric> Roland: Next test to generate might be one that generates a fault....
16:17:27 <eric> Phil: Might require some additional XML changes
16:17:41 <eric> ... Also, how should we define the JMS properties that appear on the message.
16:19:14 <eric> ... looking to capture the information to evaluate the results in a programmatic way.  XMLified version of the message - capture the test cases in such a way that we can automate later - possibly.
16:20:10 <eric> (speaker ?) How does the WS-Addressing case deal with SOAP action.
16:20:43 <eric> Phil: WS-Addressing describes elements within the SOAP message.
16:20:53 <eric> (speaker ? ) --> peaston
16:20:56 <Yves> the HTTP binding of SOAP gives direction on where to put SOAP Action (like in mime type parameters for SOAP 1.2)
16:21:56 <eric> Roland: we're also saying where we put things in the JMS message.
16:22:18 <eric> peaston: Have appropriate sub-elements in the XML to define what is needed....?
16:22:29 <eric> ... is that what glen is working on the airport.
16:23:22 <eric> action: peaston to work on the XML format for test cases (not glen)
16:23:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Work on the XML format for test cases (not glen) [on Peter Easton - due 2008-08-05].
16:24:40 <eric> Roland: I made changes to the spec after last week's call...
16:24:43 <Roland> Topic: SOAP-JMS spec
16:24:46 <Roland> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8
16:25:54 <eric> Added sections showing how to set the message properties. (2.2.2.1, 2.2.3.1)
16:28:57 <eric> Action: eric to come up with more example text for section 2.2.3.1 or 2.2.2.1
16:28:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Come up with more example text for section 2.2.3.1 or 2.2.2.1 [on Eric Johnson - due 2008-08-05].
16:30:15 <eric> Final topic - comment related to WS-Addressing:
16:30:21 <Roland> Topic: WS-Addressing comment on FPWD
16:32:43 <eric> Roland: Should we publish a primer or FAQ that addresses the question of WS-Addressing, that explains why we shouldn't worry about it?
16:33:08 <eric> Amy: WS-Addressing question out of scope
16:34:19 <eric> action: bhakti to write up an answer to the question of WS-Addressing.
16:34:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Write up an answer to the question of WS-Addressing. [on Bhakti Mehta - due 2008-08-05].
16:35:07 <eric> Roland: Sent an email today whether or not we can pass along our previous work on this same question.
16:38:11 <eric> Roland: to bhakti - don't rush to get action item done, while we look to get clearance on previous materials that were not submitted to W3C.
16:38:23 <eric> peaston: Was WS-RM part of previous materials?
16:38:26 <eric> Roland: Yes.
16:38:41 <eric> peaston: Almost certainly the next question people will ask....
16:41:00 <eric> Action: Glen to write note to a mailing list summarizing the opinion of the group, that WS-Addressing is out of scope, but we understand the question, we will develop FAQ materials.
16:41:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Write note to a mailing list summarizing the opinion of the group, that WS-Addressing is out of scope, but we understand the question, we will develop FAQ materials. [on Glen Daniels - due 2008-08-05].
16:42:17 <eric> Roland: not talking about making a lot of changes - everyone should work through the details of the spec to find out all of the remaining work to do before a last call.
16:42:59 <eric> ... next week's call is last call for Roland for a month.  If there are other people on holiday during that period, perhaps there might be calls to cancel.
16:44:00 <eric> Any other business.
16:44:05 <eric> End of call.
16:44:05 <Zakim> -Bhakti
16:44:07 <Zakim> -Roland
16:44:08 <Zakim> -Derek
16:44:09 <Zakim> -Glen_Daniels
16:44:09 <Zakim> -Phil
16:44:09 <Zakim> -Eric
16:44:11 <Zakim> -Yves
16:44:17 <Zakim> -alewis
16:44:19 <Roland> Regrets: Mark
16:44:25 <Zakim> -Peter_Easton
16:44:27 <Zakim> WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended
16:44:29 <Zakim> Attendees were Roland, Peter_Easton, Phil, Derek, +1.408.956.aaaa, Yves, Bhakti, alewis, Eric, Glen_Daniels
16:44:33 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes
16:44:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
16:44:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/29-soap-jms-minutes.html Yves
16:44:43 <Roland> rrsagent, Make log public
16:46:05 <Roland> zakim, please part
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