IRC log of bpwg on 2008-07-24

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13:22:59 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be BPWG
13:22:59 [Zakim]: ok, trackbot; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 38 minutes
13:23:00 [trackbot]: Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:23:00 [trackbot]: Date: 24 July 2008
13:23:08 [dom]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/0070.html
13:23:09 [dom]: Chair: DKA
13:24:34 [dom]: Regrets: Seungyun, Robert Finean, Murari, Francois_on_the_beach, Bryan, Adam
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13:46:20 [dom]: Regrets+ DavidStorey
13:51:15 [DKA]: DKA has joined #bpwg
13:51:24 [DKA]: g'day
13:56:29 [Kai]: Kai has joined #bpwg
13:57:03 [DKA]: Too hot to be outside. Much better to be in air-conditioned artificial environments.
13:57:40 [Scott]: Scott has joined #bpwg
13:58:29 [Zakim]: MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has now started
13:58:36 [jeffs]: jeffs has joined #bpwg
13:58:37 [Zakim]: +DKA
13:59:36 [dom]: zakim, code?
13:59:36 [Zakim]: the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
13:59:40 [Zakim]: +jeffs
14:00:10 [Zakim]: +??P22
14:00:15 [dom]: zakim, ??22 is me
14:00:15 [Zakim]: sorry, dom, I do not recognize a party named '??22'
14:00:18 [dom]: zakim, ??P22 is me
14:00:18 [Zakim]: +dom; got it
14:00:56 [jeffs]: I will be popping in and out a bit today... must deal w grad student coming by soon
14:01:50 [Zakim]: +Drooks
14:02:17 [Zakim]: +scott
14:02:20 [Zakim]: +??P26
14:02:28 [yeliz]: zakim, ??26 is yeliz
14:02:28 [Zakim]: sorry, yeliz, I do not recognize a party named '??26'
14:02:36 [dom]: zakim, ??P26 is yeliz
14:02:36 [Zakim]: +yeliz; got it
14:02:56 [yeliz]: zakim, mute yeliz
14:02:56 [Zakim]: yeliz should now be muted
14:03:17 [DKA]: zakim, who's making noise?
14:03:25 [abel]: abel has joined #bpwg
14:03:28 [Zakim]: DKA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DKA (37%)
14:03:34 [Zakim]: +??P30
14:03:49 [dom]: zakim, ??P30 is CTIC
14:03:49 [Zakim]: +CTIC; got it
14:03:49 [abel]: zakim, ??P30 is me
14:03:50 [Zakim]: I already had ??P30 as CTIC, abel
14:03:56 [DKA]: zakim, who is here?
14:03:56 [Zakim]: On the phone I see DKA, jeffs, dom (muted), Drooks, scott (muted), yeliz (muted), CTIC
14:03:58 [Zakim]: On IRC I see abel, jeffs, Scott, DKA, yeliz, Zakim, RRSAgent, jo, trackbot, dom, matt
14:04:05 [dom]: zakim, CTIC is abel
14:04:05 [Zakim]: +abel; got it
14:04:07 [matt]: Present- Matt
14:04:10 [Zakim]: +??P33
14:04:20 [abel]: zakim, abel holds abel, manrique,miguel
14:04:20 [Zakim]: +abel, manrique, miguel; got it
14:04:57 [jo]: zakim, ??P33 is me
14:04:59 [Zakim]: +jo; got it
14:05:46 [dom]: ScribeNick: Scott
14:05:49 [jo]: zakim, abel is really CTIC
14:05:50 [Zakim]: +CTIC; got it
14:06:12 [jo]: zakim, CTIC holds abel, manrique, miguel
14:06:12 [Zakim]: +abel, manrique, miguel; got it
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14:07:01 [Scott]: DKA: Report from CT task first, francois sent a summary
14:07:01 [DKA]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/0068.html
14:07:06 [jo]: q+
14:07:11 [dom]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/0072.html Francois's summary of CT task force
14:07:33 [Scott]: Jo: Wants to elaborate, circulated a new draft before lunch
14:07:41 [dom]: -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/080724 Latest draft from Jo (1n Rev14)
14:07:48 [Scott]: Jo: This draft is proposal for last call
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14:08:07 [Scott]: DKA: What was the remaining key issue
14:08:33 [dom]: [I note there are still 2 issues open on the CT document: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/products/12 ]
14:08:56 [jeffs]: can I be
14:09:00 [Zakim]: +SeanP
14:09:32 [Scott]: Jo: Were waiting to flesh out examples
14:09:46 [Scott]: Wre waiting to fix typos etc
14:09:57 [Scott]: Jo: Were waiting to fix typos etc.
14:10:10 [Scott]: Jo: Wants to review next week
14:10:27 [Scott]: DKA: Wants to get out the door asap
14:10:29 [jo]: [for clarity, we are done with this draft and want to push to LCWD on next weeks call]
14:11:06 [Scott]: DKA: Do we have any updates on the Mobile pps document?
14:11:13 [dom]: ack me
14:11:21 [Scott]: DKA: Do we have any updates on the Mobile Apps document?
14:11:38 [Scott]: Dom: Will be published next Tuesday
14:12:06 [Scott]: DKA: Unfortunate that press release will just be for BP & Checker and not mobileOK
14:12:06 [jo]: [Dom - ISSUE-242 is done and ISSUE-222 doesn't hold the document up from publication]
14:12:31 [Scott]: Dom: Don't see anyway to do mobileOK at this point
14:12:40 [Scott]: Dom: No reason to delay
14:13:07 [Scott]: DKA: Any other contributions?
14:13:09 [dom]: [thanks for the update, Jo - I hope the issue-242 will be officially closed on the next CT call then :) ]
14:13:31 [jo]: [you'd better talk to the Task Force Leader about that, Dom :-)]
14:13:34 [dom]: [still think that the characterization of ISSUE-222 as an issue is unfortunate, but oh well :) ]
14:13:36 [Scott]: DKA: BP 1.5 on Agenda but no one here
14:13:47 [Scott]: DKA: Anything on Powder to comment?
14:13:55 [Scott]: DKA: No.
14:13:58 [Scott]: DKA
14:14:16 [Scott]: DKA: Remaining is issues and actions:
14:14:36 [Scott]: DKA: Before that anything else needs covering?
14:15:23 [Scott]: Jo: We've got to the end of serious of docs and should tidy up issues and actions
14:15:32 [Scott]: Jo: and get ready for a summer recess
14:15:34 [dom]: [I suggest starting with actions in "pending review" http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/pendingreview ]
14:15:40 [Scott]: DKA: How should we do this?
14:15:54 [Scott]: Jo: Go through actions first
14:15:55 [dom]: ack me
14:16:18 [Scott]: DOM: Could we start with pending review?
14:16:20 [DKA]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/pendingreview
14:16:25 [jo]: q?
14:16:27 [dom]: s/DOM/Dom/
14:16:30 [jeffs]: re ACTION-665 : no response to email query... try again?
14:16:30 [dom]: q- jo
14:16:30 [jo]: q-
14:16:39 [dom]: ACTION-665?
14:16:39 [trackbot]: ACTION-665 -- Alan Chuter to talk to Jeffs about what support they can provide on examples -- due 2008-02-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:16:39 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/665
14:16:47 [Scott]: DKA: ACTION-665
14:17:07 [Scott]: DKA: Jeff shall we close it off?
14:17:15 [Scott]: Jeff: No response to email
14:17:45 [Scott]: DKA: Why don't we close it now? But if it's a burning issue can we assign jeff an issue
14:18:03 [Scott]: Jeff: Re-assign to me and will speak to Alan and report back:
14:18:05 [dom]: ack me
14:18:16 [Scott]: DKA: Why set to pending review?
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14:18:47 [dom]: ACTION: Jeff to look at providing examples for accessibility document
14:18:47 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeff
14:18:54 [Scott]: DKA: Suggesting re-assign to jeff so we can move along
14:19:07 [dom]: ACTION: jeffs to look at providing examples for accessibility document
14:19:08 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - jeffs
14:19:12 [dom]: close ACTION-665
14:19:12 [trackbot]: ACTION-665 Talk to Jeffs about what support they can provide on examples closed
14:19:15 [Scott]: Dom: just created a new action and close 665
14:19:40 [dom]: ACTION: Jeffrey to look at providing examples for accessibility document
14:19:40 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-820 - Look at providing examples for accessibility document [on Jeffrey Sonstein - due 2008-07-31].
14:19:51 [Scott]: DKA: Action 768: Can be closed off?
14:20:08 [dom]: ACTION-786?
14:20:08 [trackbot]: ACTION-786 -- Jo Rabin to draft wording for an appendix that identifies the aggregators and operator roles that are different in the mobile ecosystem. -- due 2008-06-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:20:08 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/786
14:20:15 [dom]: ACTION-802?
14:20:15 [trackbot]: ACTION-802 -- François Daoust to follow up on status of Korean TF members in respect of W3C and WG membership -- due 2008-07-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:20:15 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/802
14:20:16 [Scott]: Jo: Hasn't been actioned so should be left open
14:20:30 [Scott]: DKA Action-802 has been closed now
14:20:32 [dom]: close ACTION-802
14:20:32 [trackbot]: ACTION-802 Follow up on status of Korean TF members in respect of W3C and WG membership closed
14:20:48 [dom]: ACTION-808?
14:20:48 [trackbot]: ACTION-808 -- François Daoust to arrange the funeral of Techniques -- due 2008-07-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:20:48 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/808
14:21:06 [dom]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/0069.html Francois's arrangement for techniques
14:21:10 [Scott]: DKA: ACTION-808 - when did this get done? Is there a funeral/bonfire?
14:21:12 [dom]: close ACTION-808
14:21:12 [trackbot]: ACTION-808 Arrange the funeral of Techniques closed
14:21:20 [Scott]: Jo: Done this morning
14:21:32 [dom]: ACTION-810?
14:21:32 [trackbot]: ACTION-810 -- Daniel Appelquist to circulate ETSI liaison request to member list -- due 2008-07-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:21:32 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/810
14:21:43 [Scott]: Jo: 810 Not completed
14:21:51 [dom]: ACTION-814?
14:21:51 [trackbot]: ACTION-814 -- Daniel Appelquist to get back to ETSI in accordance with above resolution -- due 2008-07-24 -- OPEN
14:21:51 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/814
14:21:57 [Scott]: DKA: agreed on the call to send note
14:22:10 [Scott]: Jo: DKA to send (Jo drafted)
14:22:24 [Scott]: Jo: Unanswered question
14:22:32 [dom]: close ACTION-810
14:22:32 [trackbot]: ACTION-810 Circulate ETSI liaison request to member list closed
14:22:39 [Scott]: DKA: 1. The Acion is closed
14:23:05 [Scott]: DKA: 2. A note wasn't sent, I am happy to send it and am happy with the wording.
14:23:07 [dom]: DKA, you have ACTION-814 to send the message to ETSI
14:23:15 [jo]: ACTION-814
14:23:23 [dom]: ack me
14:23:25 [jo]: ACTION-814?
14:23:25 [trackbot]: ACTION-814 -- Daniel Appelquist to get back to ETSI in accordance with above resolution -- due 2008-07-24 -- OPEN
14:23:25 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/814
14:23:27 [Scott]: DKA: 3. The mechanics of the liaison, W3C can handle this?
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14:23:38 [Scott]: DKA: Dom:
14:23:48 [Scott]: Dom: You still have the action to send
14:24:01 [dom]: ACTION: Dom to officialize the ETSI liasion on the W3C side
14:24:01 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-821 - Officialize the ETSI liasion on the W3C side [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2008-07-31].
14:24:08 [Scott]: Dom: I will undertake an Action to setup liaison?
14:24:23 [jo]: [summary: Jo to take over ACTION-814 and Dom to enact under ACTION-821]
14:24:32 [Scott]: DKA: 811 - Francois, was this done? Anyone?
14:24:35 [dom]: ack me
14:24:54 [DKA]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/overdue
14:24:55 [dom]: -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/overdue Overdue actions (30 at this time)
14:24:56 [Scott]: DKA: Move on to overdue actions?
14:25:07 [dom]: I suggest doing them sorted by owner: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/overdue?sort=owner
14:25:11 [Zakim]: +Kai
14:25:51 [jo]: zakim, who is making noise?
14:26:02 [Zakim]: jo, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DKA (39%)
14:26:13 [jeffs]: kill it
14:26:26 [Scott]: DKA: Terminology issue not required
14:26:26 [dom]: close ACTION-691
14:26:27 [trackbot]: ACTION-691 Raise issue on terminology and consistency with BP1, and start discussion on main page, external resources and so on closed
14:26:39 [dom]: ACTION-693?
14:26:39 [trackbot]: ACTION-693 -- Daniel Appelquist to raise issue with Dave Raggett in UWA and see if they will take forward from where we leave off -- due 2008-03-11 -- OPEN
14:26:39 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/693
14:26:52 [dom]: ack me
14:27:02 [Scott]: DKA: 693: I think obsoleted, any different thoughts?
14:27:20 [Scott]: Dom: Francois and I reviewed and were unclear?
14:27:38 [jeffs]: kill it
14:27:45 [Scott]: DKA: I've looked at it and whatever issue was I don't think we still have it
14:27:58 [Scott]: DKA: I think we should get rid of this one
14:27:59 [dom]: close ACTION-693?
14:28:01 [dom]: close ACTION-693
14:28:01 [trackbot]: ACTION-693 Raise issue with Dave Raggett in UWA and see if they will take forward from where we leave off closed
14:28:04 [Zakim]: -scott
14:28:16 [Scott]: DKA: 694: Review Apple Doc:
14:28:50 [dom]: ACTION-697?
14:28:50 [trackbot]: ACTION-697 -- Daniel Appelquist to summarize the points he can glean from examination of the frost library -- due 2008-03-11 -- OPEN
14:28:50 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/697
14:29:24 [dom]: DKA: won't be done by me in the next month
14:29:31 [dom]: ... it would probably be better to assign to someone else
14:29:45 [Zakim]: +scott
14:29:47 [dom]: ... any volunteer?
14:30:03 [jo]: q+
14:30:10 [jo]: q?
14:30:14 [dom]: close ACTION-697
14:30:14 [trackbot]: ACTION-697 Summarize the points he can glean from examination of the frost library closed
14:30:15 [Zakim]: -scott
14:30:31 [jo]: q?
14:30:47 [DKA]: ack jo
14:30:47 [dom]: ack jo
14:31:04 [Zakim]: +scott
14:31:35 [jeffs]: offering to help w 694 if needed
14:31:40 [dom]: reopen ACTION-697
14:31:40 [trackbot]: ACTION-697 Summarize the points he can glean from examination of the frost library re-opened
14:31:54 [dom]: ACTION-697 due September 12
14:31:54 [trackbot]: ACTION-697 Summarize the points he can glean from examination of the frost library due date now September 12
14:31:59 [Scott]: DKA: 697 - leave open but with a new date?
14:32:11 [Scott]: DKA: Sept. 11? I'll update
14:33:04 [jo]: scott: there is more than one apple document and I am nearly ready to make summary - all a bit specific
14:33:26 [jo]: ... good as a reference document and good as an example of device documentation
14:33:38 [jo]: ... not all that useful ref best practice
14:33:49 [jo]: ... hopefully will get document out by Monday
14:34:05 [jeffs]: 1 more try: offering to help w 694 if needed
14:34:07 [dom]: ACTION-694 due July 29
14:34:07 [trackbot]: ACTION-694 Review apple document and summarise the parts that might be applicable to BP2 due date now July 29
14:34:13 [jo]: q+
14:34:22 [jo]: q+ to channel jeffs
14:34:23 [dom]: ack me
14:34:28 [dom]: ack jo
14:34:28 [Zakim]: jo, you wanted to channel jeffs
14:34:33 [DKA]: q?
14:35:04 [Scott]: Jo: Jeff is happy to help with 694
14:35:28 [jo]: s/ 694/ ACTION-694/g
14:35:29 [Scott]: Scott: Thank Jeff
14:35:31 [dom]: ACTION-703?
14:35:36 [trackbot]: ACTION-703 -- Jo Rabin to draft a communication with the TAG based on ISSUE-222 -- due 2008-03-11 -- OPEN
14:35:36 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/703
14:35:43 [Scott]: DKA: 703 - oldie but goodie
14:36:07 [Scott]: Jo: on v. slow burn - early autumn
14:36:27 [dom]: ACTION-710?
14:36:27 [trackbot]: ACTION-710 -- François Daoust to test the Effect of HEAD Requests on Various Servers -- due 2008-07-17 -- OPEN
14:36:27 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/710
14:36:43 [dom]: ACTION-711?
14:36:43 [Scott]: DKA: 710 - genuilly overdue - skip
14:36:44 [trackbot]: ACTION-711 -- Soonho Lee to provide Feedback on Content Transformation Document -- due 2008-07-10 -- OPEN
14:36:44 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/711
14:36:59 [dom]: ACTION-712?
14:37:00 [trackbot]: ACTION-712 -- Yeliz Yesilada to review ARIA to see what could be relevant to BP2 -- due 2008-03-20 -- OPEN
14:37:00 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/712
14:37:08 [Scott]: DKA: 710 - genuinely overdue - skip
14:37:10 [yeliz]: zakim, unmute yeliz
14:37:10 [Zakim]: yeliz should no longer be muted
14:37:38 [jeffs]: kill it
14:37:46 [Scott]: Yeliz: Not found anything relevant
14:37:48 [dom]: close ACTION-712
14:37:48 [trackbot]: ACTION-712 Review ARIA to see what could be relevant to BP2 closed
14:37:52 [yeliz]: zakim, mute yeliz
14:37:52 [Zakim]: yeliz should now be muted
14:37:55 [dom]: ACTION-744?
14:37:55 [trackbot]: ACTION-744 -- Bryan Sullivan to create a placeholder capturing discussion under ISSUE-245 on the need for adaptation (not transformation) to realise BP-2 -- due 2008-05-01 -- OPEN
14:37:55 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/744
14:38:03 [Zakim]: -scott
14:38:10 [Scott]: DKA: 744 - can we close this off?
14:38:26 [dom]: ACTION-783?
14:38:26 [trackbot]: ACTION-783 -- Daniel Appelquist to come up with alternative phrasing for Web 2.0 -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:38:26 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/783
14:38:48 [Kai]: ScribeNick: Kai
14:38:49 [jo]: scribe: Jo
14:39:04 [Kai]: Scribe: Kai
14:39:16 [Zakim]: +DKA.a
14:39:27 [dom]: ACTION-783?
14:39:27 [trackbot]: ACTION-783 -- Daniel Appelquist to come up with alternative phrasing for Web 2.0 -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:39:27 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/783
14:39:39 [jo]: zakim, dka.a is probably scott
14:39:40 [Zakim]: +scott?; got it
14:39:46 [Kai]: DKA: nothing to report on this one
14:40:06 [dom]: ACTION-783 due July 31
14:40:07 [Kai]: ...will try to get something on the mailiing list next week
14:40:18 [dom]: ACTION-785?
14:40:19 [trackbot]: ACTION-783 Come up with alternative phrasing for Web 2.0 due date now July 31
14:40:20 [trackbot]: ACTION-785 -- Kai Scheppe to check the personalization section for specific parts that seem to imply combination of personal information with usage patterns -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:40:20 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/785
14:40:52 [dom]: ACTION-787?
14:40:52 [trackbot]: ACTION-787 -- Scott Hughes to draft text re power efficiency by June 25 -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:40:52 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/787
14:40:53 [Kai]: Kai: Have not looked at it, will hopefully do so next week
14:41:22 [Kai]: Scott: have searched for work done in this area and found nothing
14:41:28 [dom]: Regrets+ Ed
14:41:39 [Kai]: ...will put it together with less detail. Have not done it yet
14:41:46 [dom]: ACTION-787 due July 31
14:41:47 [trackbot]: ACTION-787 Draft text re power efficiency due date now July 31
14:41:55 [Kai]: DKA: let*s leave it open for next call
14:42:01 [dom]: ACTION-788?
14:42:01 [trackbot]: ACTION-788 -- Daniel Appelquist to communicate with OpenAjax Alliance about the backlighting issue and null gestures -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:42:01 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/788
14:42:04 [dom]: q+
14:42:06 [dom]: ack me
14:42:22 [dom]: ACTION-791?
14:42:22 [trackbot]: ACTION-791 -- Daniel Appelquist to draft some text on WICD -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:42:22 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/791
14:43:18 [Kai]: DKA: ACTION-788 will do it right now...I think I did this immediately. Is closed.
14:43:42 [dom]: ACTION-788: DKA sent a message, but didn't get a reply
14:43:42 [trackbot]: ACTION-788 Communicate with OpenAjax Alliance about the backlighting issue and null gestures notes added
14:44:13 [dom]: (note that it wasn't sent to mobile@openajax, at least I don't see it in http://www.openajax.org/pipermail/mobile/2008q3/thread.html )
14:44:20 [dom]: ACTION-792?
14:44:20 [trackbot]: ACTION-792 -- Abel Rionda to propose some text on SVG -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:44:20 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/792
14:44:30 [Kai]: Abel: will do it for next call
14:44:43 [dom]: ACTION-792 due July 31
14:44:43 [trackbot]: ACTION-792 Propose some text on SVG due date now July 31
14:44:58 [dom]: ACTION-793?
14:44:58 [trackbot]: ACTION-793 -- Kai Scheppe to work with Scott to produce proposed text on caching that goes beyond BP 1 -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
14:44:58 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/793
14:45:25 [dom]: ACTION-793: Kai sent a proposal to Scott (but got no reply yet) - also, more findings likely to come
14:45:25 [trackbot]: ACTION-793 Work with Scott to produce proposed text on caching that goes beyond BP 1 notes added
14:45:30 [dom]: ack me
14:45:36 [jeffs]: yes
14:46:00 [Kai]: Kai: did some work. More to do.
14:46:05 [Kai]: DKA: leave it open
14:46:11 [dom]: ACTION-796?
14:46:11 [trackbot]: ACTION-796 -- Daniel Appelquist to contact BBC to see if they can make their mobile web site mobileOK -- due 2008-06-25 -- OPEN
14:46:11 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/796
14:46:33 [Kai]: DKA: have not had a response from them
14:46:42 [dom]: ACTION-796: DKA sent mail, but didn't get a reply
14:46:42 [trackbot]: ACTION-796 Contact BBC to see if they can make their mobile web site mobileOK notes added
14:46:44 [Kai]: ..keep it open on me
14:47:43 [dom]: ACTION-807?
14:47:47 [trackbot]: ACTION-807 -- Kai Scheppe to check on discussion of mobileOK pertinent issues in POWDER -- due 2008-07-10 -- OPEN
14:47:47 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/807
14:47:49 [jo]: ACTION-798?
14:47:49 [trackbot]: ACTION-798 -- Kai Scheppe to work proposed changes into the mobileOK Pro document and then turn it over to the group -- due 2008-06-25 -- OPEN
14:47:49 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/798
14:47:49 [dom]: ACTION-798?
14:47:52 [trackbot]: ACTION-798 -- Kai Scheppe to work proposed changes into the mobileOK Pro document and then turn it over to the group -- due 2008-06-25 -- OPEN
14:47:55 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/798
14:48:19 [dom]: ack me
14:49:31 [DKA]: Dom -- Email to OpenAjax was sent directly to Jon F- I will follow up with the mobile interest mailing list.
14:49:34 [dom]: ACTION-798 due July 31
14:49:38 [trackbot]: ACTION-798 Work proposed changes into the mobileOK Pro document and then turn it over to the group due date now July 31
14:49:46 [dom]: ACTION-801?
14:49:47 [trackbot]: ACTION-801 -- Daniel Appelquist to thanks Chaals for producing the draft of mok scheme, to apologise on the group's behalf for not responding sooner and to draw his attention to the resolution taken on its contents -- due 2008-06-25 -- OPEN
14:49:47 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/801
14:49:49 [Kai]: Kai: Will send an email to group
14:50:37 [dom]: ACTION-801 due next week
14:50:37 [trackbot]: ACTION-801 Thanks Chaals for producing the draft of mok scheme, to apologise on the group's behalf for not responding sooner and to draw his attention to the resolution taken on its contents due date now next week
14:50:46 [Kai]: DKA: needs to be done. Will email Chaals
14:51:05 [dom]: ACTION-807?
14:51:05 [trackbot]: ACTION-807 -- Kai Scheppe to check on discussion of mobileOK pertinent issues in POWDER -- due 2008-07-10 -- OPEN
14:51:05 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/807
14:51:21 [dom]: ack me
14:53:23 [jo]: q+ to note that Phil has discussed this with us
14:53:41 [DKA]: ack jo
14:53:41 [Zakim]: jo, you wanted to note that Phil has discussed this with us
14:53:48 [dom]: is there a pointer to the results of ACTION-807?
14:54:49 [Kai]: ...12 <descriptorset>
14:54:49 [Kai]: 13 <typeof src="http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobileOK#conformant" />
14:54:49 [Kai]: 14 <displaytext>The example.com webiste conforms to mobileOK</displaytext>
14:54:49 [Kai]: 15 <displayicon src="http://www.w3.org/ICONS/mobileOK.png" />
14:54:49 [Kai]: 16 </descriptorset>
14:55:50 [Kai]: Kai: This has been discussed and the above example is the current state of the mobileOK example
14:56:00 [Kai]: Jo: not a high priority
14:56:06 [dom]: so, is ACTION-807 to be closed, then?
14:56:09 [Kai]: DKA: ok let's move on
14:56:14 [jo]: [jo notes that Kai is of course much more up to date than Jo]
14:56:27 [Kai]: Dom, yes
14:56:28 [dom]: [I suggest adjourning]
14:56:31 [dom]: close ACTION-807
14:56:31 [trackbot]: ACTION-807 Check on discussion of mobileOK pertinent issues in POWDER closed
14:56:41 [Kai]: DkA: should we close the call?
14:56:44 [jeffs]: a move to adjourn is always in order
14:57:03 [Zakim]: -dom
14:57:08 [yeliz]: bye
14:57:09 [jo]: zakim, drop me
14:57:09 [Zakim]: jo is being disconnected
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14:57:10 [Zakim]: -jo
14:57:12 [Zakim]: -DKA
14:57:12 [Zakim]: -jeffs
14:57:13 [Zakim]: -scott?
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14:57:14 [Zakim]: -yeliz
14:57:16 [Zakim]: -CTIC
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14:57:59 [dom]: RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:57:59 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-bpwg-minutes.html dom
15:00:12 [Zakim]: -Drooks
15:00:16 [Zakim]: MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
15:00:18 [Zakim]: Attendees were DKA, jeffs, dom, Drooks, scott, yeliz, manrique, miguel, jo, abel, SeanP, Kai, scott?
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15:03:25 [dom]: i/<jo> scott: there/ScribeNick: jo/
15:03:38 [dom]: i/Jo: Jeff is happy/ScribeNick: scott
15:03:49 [dom]: RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:03:49 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-bpwg-minutes.html dom
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15:04:26 [DKA]: Hi Dom?
15:04:45 [DKA]: I can't find this resolution wrt mobileOK scheme... :(
15:04:53 [DKA]: Any pointers?
15:10:07 [dom]: DKA, http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-bpwg-minutes.html#item_scheme
15:10:14 [dom]: RESOLUTION: the MobileOK Scheme document should be reduced to an explanatory "wrapper" document which will consist of pointers to MobileOK Basic Tests 1.0, Mobile Web Best Practices 1.0, the Checker, the license rules and the logo usage page [and POWDER if appropriate based on a future decision on use of POWDER] (and maybe a nice little picture). The document will remain silent on certification.
15:10:22 [dom]: RRSAgent, bye
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-bpwg-actions.rdf :
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Jeff to look at providing examples for accessibility document [1]
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-bpwg-irc#T14-18-47
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: jeffs to look at providing examples for accessibility document [2]
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-bpwg-irc#T14-19-07
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Jeffrey to look at providing examples for accessibility document [3]
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-bpwg-irc#T14-19-40
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Dom to officialize the ETSI liasion on the W3C side [4]
15:10:22 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-bpwg-irc#T14-24-01
15:10:26 [dom]: Zakim, bye
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