IRC log of soap-jms on 2008-07-22
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/22-soap-jms-irc
- 15:52:07 [RolandMerrick]
- Zakim, list
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- I see IA_Team()10:00AM, Team_(design)15:04Z, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, Team_(h)15:26Z active
- 15:52:09 [Zakim]
- also scheduled at this time are WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM, MWI_TSWG()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, INC_RWAB()11:00AM, XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, T&S_XMLSEC()10:00AM,
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- ... SW_HCLS(Chairs)12:00PM
- 15:52:31 [RolandMerrick]
- Zakim, this will be WS_SOAP-JM
- 15:52:31 [Zakim]
- ok, RolandMerrick; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
- 15:53:50 [RolandMerrick]
- Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
- 15:54:08 [RolandMerrick]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008Jul/0014.html
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/22-soap-jms-minutes.html RolandMerrick
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
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- +alewis
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- +[IBM]
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- +Roland_Merrick
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- Zakim, IBM is Phil
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- +Phil; got it
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- +[TIBCO]
- 16:01:12 [Roland]
- Zakim, TIBCI is Eric
- 16:01:12 [Zakim]
- sorry, Roland, I do not recognize a party named 'TIBCI'
- 16:01:24 [Roland]
- Zakim, TIBCO is Eric
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- +Eric; got it
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- +Derek
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- +Yves
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- +markphillips
- 16:05:34 [markphillips]
- scribeNick: markphillips
- 16:05:46 [Roland]
- Chair: Roland
- 16:05:46 [markphillips]
- TOPIC: Actions
- 16:07:55 [markphillips]
- Eric's action (clarifying what we mean by "MUST fully support the JMS IRI")
- 16:08:27 [markphillips]
- Eric: Looking at other URI schemes to see how this is handled
- 16:09:08 [markphillips]
- Mark's action to look at XML schema - still outstanding
- 16:09:28 [Yves]
- http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html#binding-properties
- 16:09:33 [markphillips]
- Roland's action to look at how we indicate normative and non-normative sections of the code
- 16:10:04 [Yves]
- http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html#binding-header-props
- 16:10:43 [Zakim]
- +GlenD
- 16:10:52 [markphillips]
- Roland: action still outstanding - but a code example is included in section 2.2.2 (see the link above)
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- (hey folks, Glen joined a couple mins ago - sorry to be late!)
- 16:12:55 [markphillips]
- Eric: This draws a lot of attention to a non-normative section
- 16:14:47 [markphillips]
- Roland will try some different styles to simplify the presentation - possibly a sub-section which bounds the non-normative examples
- 16:15:46 [markphillips]
- (just for sections 2.2.2 and 2.2.3)
- 16:17:26 [markphillips]
- TOPIC: Testing
- 16:20:10 [markphillips]
- Phil: No testing strategy has been agreed yet
- 16:22:44 [markphillips]
- Glen: A test suite does not need to be a full SOAP stack - it can be build onto JMS
- 16:26:41 [markphillips]
- Eric: tests don't need to be code - could have written instructions - tests need to show interoperability
- 16:26:53 [markphillips]
- Glen: We need 2 interoperable implementations for every MUST constraint
- 16:27:23 [markphillips]
- Eric: Proposal: We need to identify test scenarios in textual form
- 16:28:16 [markphillips]
- Eric: e.g. Outlined One-way and request-response message exchanges, and some WSDL
- 16:29:11 [markphillips]
- Roland: Need to also identify which assertions are addressed by these test scenarios
- 16:31:49 [markphillips]
- Glen: WS-Addressing test cases may provide a useful template
- 16:32:22 [gdaniels]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/testcases/
- 16:33:28 [markphillips]
- Action: Phil to write up one or two initial test scenarios - a one-way and request-response
- 16:33:28 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-16 - Write up one or two initial test scenarios - a one-way and request-response [on Phil Adams - due 2008-07-29].
- 16:35:06 [markphillips]
- Glen: WS-Addressing template looks suitable. It uses XPath for the assertions - see http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/testcases/#test1238
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- Eric: For XPath to work we'd need a syntax to represent the JMS messages
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- -Eric
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- -Phil
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- -Yves
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- -alewis
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- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended
- 16:38:52 [markphillips]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 16:38:52 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/22-soap-jms-minutes.html markphillips
- 16:38:54 [Zakim]
- Attendees were alewis, Roland_Merrick, Phil, Eric, Derek, Yves, markphillips, GlenD
- 17:18:47 [Roland]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/22-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
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