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14:04:20 <aphillip_> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group
14:04:26 <aphillip_> Chair:   Addison Phillips
14:04:32 <aphillip_> Scribe:  Addison Phillips
14:04:43 <aphillip_> ScribeNick: aphillip_
14:04:56 <aphillip_> zakim, this is i18n
14:04:56 <Zakim> aphillip_, this was already I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM
14:04:58 <Zakim> ok, aphillip_; that matches I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM
14:05:05 <aphillip_> Agenda:  http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Homework
14:05:14 <aphillip_> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:05:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-core-minutes.html aphillip_
14:05:58 <aphillip_> Regrets: Felix, David
14:06:23 <aphillip_> Topic: Minutes and Agenda review
14:07:27 <aphillip_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2008Jul/0008.html
14:08:09 <aphillip_> Topic: Action Items
14:08:30 <aphillip_> Andrew to continue work on What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? 
14:08:52 <aphillip_> coming along
14:08:58 <aphillip_> has some questions
14:09:26 <aphillip_> written as faq; predates migration; should I rewrite as sort of a getting started guide?
14:10:36 <aphillip_> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php
14:12:34 <aphillip_> will finish in next couple of days
14:12:37 <aphillip_> Addison to write an alternative proposal for the para giving an example in SSML 3.2.1 
14:13:15 <aphillip_> Addison: write basic outline in wiki for a note on case folding 
14:13:43 <aphillip_> Addison: Prepare comments on OWL changes for review next week (11 June) 
14:13:56 <aphillip_> Richard: to build comments on XHTML Access and send to XHTML 
14:14:05 <aphillip_> pending
14:14:12 <aphillip_> Felix: edit WS-I18N to incorporate comments to date in order to allow the WG to contribute changes 
14:14:21 <aphillip_> done
14:14:27 <aphillip_> Richard: move CharMod Norm to a public space 
14:14:34 <aphillip_> pending
14:14:51 <aphillip_> Topic: Info Share
14:15:19 <aphillip_> welcome norbert to the WG, representing Yahoo
14:15:58 <aphillip_> ---
14:16:57 <aphillip_> Topic: IRI
14:17:02 <aphillip_>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-iri/2008Mar/0000.html
14:17:07 <aphillip_>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008JulSep/0002.html
14:17:55 <aphillip_> I just produced
14:17:55 <aphillip_> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-duerst-iri-bis-03.txt
14:21:17 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
14:21:17 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
14:21:18 <Zakim> -Richard
14:21:20 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
14:21:20 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:21:22 <Zakim> +Richard
14:21:43 <r12a> apologies, my phone died
14:23:59 <aphillip_> ACTION: Addison: remind Marting of Paul Grosso's comment in 2008Mar/0000.html
14:24:59 <aphillip_> Topic: Widget spec review
14:26:38 <aphillip_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008JulSep/0019.html
14:26:57 <aphillip_> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-widgets-reqs-20080625/
14:27:05 <aphillip_> http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/
14:28:21 <aphillip_> ACTION: Review Addison's comments on Widgets for next call at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008JulSep/0019.html
14:29:03 <aphillip_> Topic: OWL and I18N issues
14:29:37 <aphillip_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008JulSep/0003.html
14:32:52 <aphillip_> 1. I'm not sure I like the name "internationalizedString". I realize that this is an expansion on xsd:string and thus needs a different name. However, it implies that other strings are somehow "not internationalized". Perhaps something along the lines of "languageString", "nlString" (nl for natural language), or similar. 
14:33:39 <Zakim> - +39.366.aaaa
14:33:41 <aphillip_> "here is a string"^^lang:de-DE
14:36:14 <aphillip_> richard: maybe "localizedString"
14:38:04 <andrewc> phone problems here
14:38:34 <aphillip_> 2. Definitely langPattern should be case insensitive. Alternatively, it is permitted to normalized both the literal and the pattern to lowercase for matching purposes.
14:39:02 <aphillip_> 3. It would be best to use the terminology from RFC 4647 to the extent possible. One question would be whether langPattern could be a true "language priority list" (i.e. have more than one "language range" in it). That would allow one to say something like: 
14:39:02 <aphillip_>  
14:39:02 <aphillip_>     DatatypeRestriction(owl:internationalizedString langPattern "en,fr") 
14:39:02 <aphillip_>  
14:39:03 <aphillip_> ... which would mean: any string in some flavor of English or French (but not, say, German or Japanese), and inclusive of tags such as "fr-CA" and "EN-us". 
14:39:06 <aphillip_>  
14:45:43 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
14:45:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, ??P3, Addison_Phillips
14:45:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip_, Zakim, norbert, r12a
14:45:56 <r12a> zakim, ??P3 is Norbert
14:45:56 <Zakim> +Norbert; got it
14:45:59 <aphillip_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008JulSep/0027.html
14:55:02 <aphillip_> "stringInAGivenLanguage"
14:57:27 <aphillip_> Topic: XSD 1.1 Comments 
14:58:10 <aphillip_> ACTION: send comments on Felix's comments to list for next call (see  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2008Jul/0003.html
14:58:10 <aphillip_> )
14:58:24 <aphillip_> Topic: AOB?
14:59:14 <Zakim> -Addison_Phillips
14:59:18 <Zakim> -Norbert
14:59:21 <aphillip_> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:59:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-core-minutes.html aphillip_
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14:59:32 <r12a> hello henry 
14:59:44 <aphillip_> zakim, bye
14:59:44 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Richard, Addison_Phillips, +39.366.aaaa, Norbert
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14:59:59 <r12a> did you want to talk internationalization or were you looking for XML Core ?
14:59:59 <ht_maine> afternoon richard
15:00:05 <ht_maine> looking for core?
15:00:23 <r12a> you just joined #core
15:00:27 <aphillip_> hello Henry, #core is the internationalization WG
15:00:36 <aphillip_> RRSAgent, stop logging
15:00:36 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop logging', aphillip_.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:00:43 <aphillip_> RRSAgent, bye
15:00:43 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-core-actions.rdf :
15:00:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Addison: remind Marting of Paul Grosso's comment in 2008Mar/0000.html [1]
15:00:43 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-core-irc#T14-23-59
15:00:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Review Addison's comments on Widgets for next call at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008JulSep/0019.html [2]
15:00:43 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-core-irc#T14-28-21
15:00:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: send comments on Felix's comments to list for next call (see  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2008Jul/0003.html [3]
15:00:43 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/16-core-irc#T14-58-10
15:00:45 <ht_maine> Yes, my bad -- bye!
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15:00:53 <r12a> you are of course welcome, henry