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10:32:19 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see GA_SVGWG()6:30AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
10:32:20 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
10:32:20 <trackbot> Date: 15 July 2008
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10:34:00 <ChrisL> Hi folks
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10:34:13 <aemmons> Hi Chris!
10:34:23 <ChrisL> I'm still sorting out a phone here (my regular phone line is out of order)
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10:35:08 <ed_> Zakim, who is noisy?
10:35:19 <Zakim> ed_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: aemmons (42%), anthony (5%)
10:39:55 <anthony> Scribe: anthony
10:40:03 <anthony> Chair: Andrew Emmons
10:40:08 <anthony> Regrets: None
10:41:07 <anthony> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0036.html
10:42:32 <anthony> Topic: Test Fest
10:47:29 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/wiki/TestCoverage
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11:15:19 <Zakim> -anthony
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11:20:30 <ed_> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/
11:34:01 <anthony> ACTION: anthony to Check the test report generation script to ensure data is not discarded when a revision number miss match occurs with a test
11:34:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2098 - Check the test report generation script to ensure data is not discarded when a revision number miss match occurs with a test [on Anthony Grasso - due 2008-07-22].
11:34:52 <Zakim> -anthony
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11:36:07 <anthony> Zakim, ??P2 is me
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11:36:41 <Zakim> -ChrisL
11:40:41 <aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0029.html
11:40:46 <anthony> [Discussion about organisation]
11:40:50 <Zakim> +ChrisL
11:41:07 <anthony> Topic: Two progressive rendering questions
11:41:21 <anthony> CM: It's really just a couple of questions to clarify things for me
11:41:33 <anthony> ... I was reading through the section for the script thing
11:42:03 <anthony> ... question is a bit long
11:42:12 <anthony> ... so I don't mind if people reply to that offline
11:42:19 <anthony> AE: I wouldn't mind some more time to go over that
11:42:21 <anthony> DS: Same
11:42:24 <anthony> CM: That's fine
11:42:51 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/errata/errata.xml#attribute-index
11:42:52 <aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008AprJun/0154.html
11:43:00 <anthony> Topic: Mistakes in the attribute index appendix (ISSUE-2005)
11:43:27 <anthony> CM: So I noticed there a number of incorrect entries in that
11:43:36 <anthony> ... I thought it was automatically generated
11:43:42 <anthony> CL: I think so
11:44:00 <anthony> CM: A couple of things that were confused because of the scripts that generated it
11:44:14 <anthony> ... minor mistakes
11:44:21 <anthony> CL: So I'd like a little bit of time to check this
11:44:28 <anthony> ... I suspect it's probably reasonable
11:44:50 <anthony> ... the reason I'm slightly hesitant is on font family I think it should have the value all
11:44:59 <anthony> ... and when I look at the proposed errata
11:45:16 <anthony> CM: That's what's actually published
11:45:38 <anthony> CL: So the ones on font face
11:45:50 <anthony> ... shouldn't they include the value all?
11:45:56 <anthony> CM: I copied those out of the DTD
11:46:06 <anthony> CL: I'd have to go over those before accepting them
11:46:13 <anthony> ... in general it looks good
11:46:38 <anthony> ACTION: Chris to review the corrections to the mistakes in the attribute index and report back
11:46:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2099 - Review the corrections to the mistakes in the attribute index and report back [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-07-22].
11:47:03 <anthony> CL: I'll see if I can get that done by next Tuesday
11:48:37 <aemmons> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0004.html
11:48:46 <anthony> Topic: Testing animation of empty string values (ISSUE-2010)
11:49:18 <anthony> CM: Test has a semicolon at the end of a value for animation
11:49:23 <anthony> ... some implementations accept it
11:49:30 <anthony> ... Bitflash is one of them
11:49:42 <anthony> AE: Up until a few months ago we disallowed it
11:49:49 <anthony> ... but we got complaints
11:50:01 <anthony> ... that content was being generated with it like that
11:50:44 <anthony> CL: Having a semicolon at the end of the list is fine if it is always required
11:50:56 <anthony> ... is there are final blank entry
11:51:00 <anthony> ... and does it matter
11:52:26 <anthony> CM: I think this is an important thing to specify
11:52:37 <anthony> ... if there are going to be empty string
11:52:46 <anthony> ... so you can see I got varied results
11:52:57 <anthony> ... with empty string in the middle and at the end
11:54:08 <anthony> CL: If it doesn't introduce an ambiguity I'd be fine with changing it
11:54:13 <anthony> ... but if it does we need to think about it more
11:54:23 <anthony> ED: I'm wondering if it can escape string values
11:54:34 <anthony> ... or escape it somehow with like a backslash
11:54:56 <anthony> CM: So somethings are escaping for specific attribute types
11:55:08 <anthony> ... rather than a general escaping mechanism
11:55:19 <anthony> ... so there is a similar problem in there
11:55:40 <anthony> ... if you have a URL with a semicolon
11:55:56 <anthony> ... would have to percent escape it
11:56:09 <anthony> ... one thing you could say if you want an empty string is that
11:56:15 <anthony> ... you have a "#" there
11:56:19 <anthony> ... because it's the same
11:56:30 <anthony> ... or say there are two semicolons at the end
11:56:50 <anthony> ... and the last one is an optional termination
11:57:17 <anthony> AE: I'm happy with that
11:57:28 <anthony> ... have empty values
11:57:35 <anthony> ... with the last one ignored
11:59:34 <anthony> ACTION: Cameron to reword the animation values such that a final semicolon is ignored
11:59:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2100 - Reword the animation values such that a final semicolon is ignored [on Cameron McCormack - due 2008-07-22].
11:59:59 <anthony> DS: Are we changing something we use or are we changing something in SMIL?
12:00:19 <anthony> CM: We change what SMIL says but it will make us slightly divergent
12:00:32 <anthony> AE: Aren't there places like that already?
12:00:50 <anthony> ... I think we already have the wording in there for SMIL
12:00:58 <anthony> ... [Reads out spec]
12:01:12 <anthony> ... So in there we can say this is our SVG specif rule
12:02:21 <ed_> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/animate.html#ValuesAttribute
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12:03:29 <Zakim> -anthony
12:04:35 <anthony> Zakim, bye
12:04:35 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were aemmons, ed_, anthony, heycam, Doug_Schepers, ChrisL
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15:02:25 <ed_work> hmm... so 1.1 doesn't really define if xlink:href is animatable on a script element