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I want a link to be opened in a new window/tab, but just realized that target="_blank" is obsolete. What other options do I have with HTML and CSS? 11:40:14 It's no longer obsolete 11:40:18 Skasi, target="_blank" is allowed in HTML5. But you should really consider whether forcing a new window is a good idea 11:47:02 Hm... ID attribute... "The id attribute represents its element's unique identifier. The value must be unique in the subtree within which the element finds itself and must contain at least one character." 11:47:48 What is the definition of subtree here? Is this intended to allow duplicate ID attributes in a document? 11:48:12 document tree, including document fragment trees; no 11:48:35 I think there's an XXX comment in the source there 11:49:00 I am using HTML4.01. Are there any ways to open links in new windows with HTML4.01? 11:49:16 Anne: this probably should be rephrased then... 11:49:40 Julian, subtree just needs a pointer (again, iirc there's an XXX comment to that effect) 11:49:58 Skasi, not with HTML or CSS unless you use HTML 4.01 Transitional 11:50:14 Skasi, though just using target=_blank should work; anyway, this is not the right channel for such questions 11:50:52 anne: but it's really the full tree, isn't it? why say "subtree" then? 11:51:33 Julian, because document fragments are not a full tree, iirc 11:51:43 anyway, e-mail the list or file a bug or so :) 11:52:04 Thanks for your help. Before leaving I would like to know where I should ask such questions in future. :) 11:52:20 Skasi, #html on irc.freenode.net or so, I suppose 11:52:33 Skasi, not anything with w3.org in it, anyway 11:53:51 anne: What do you mean by "full tree"? 11:54:05 It would be crazy if they weren't a tree-shaped data structure 11:55:15 Julian has joined #html-wg 12:08:24 Navarr has joined #html-wg 12:32:18 MikeSmith has joined #html-wg 12:37:40 myakura has joined #html-wg 12:45:02 Navarr has joined #html-wg 13:11:07 Lachy has joined #html-wg 13:12:10 zcorpan has joined #html-wg 13:12:34 anne has joined #html-wg 13:40:27 Lachy has joined #html-wg 13:59:39 aroben has joined #html-wg 14:12:05 smedero has joined #html-wg 14:29:33 Zeros has joined #html-wg 14:45:19 billmason has joined #html-wg 14:52:45 zcorpan has joined #html-wg 16:23:37 Lachy has joined #html-wg 16:27:20 tH has joined #html-wg 16:37:08 smedero has joined #html-wg 16:38:51 Zeros has joined #html-wg 16:50:06 alexf has joined #html-wg 16:59:27 alexf has left #html-wg 17:07:27 MikeSmith has joined #html-wg 17:14:28 Zeros has joined #html-wg 17:35:05 adele has joined #html-wg 17:52:00 mjs_ has joined #html-wg 17:54:05 jgraham_ has joined #html-wg 18:21:28 mjs has joined #html-wg 18:33:32 adele_ has joined #html-wg 18:37:14 mjs has joined #html-wg 18:38:46 mjs has joined #html-wg 18:40:04 mjs_ has joined #html-wg 19:50:46 adele has joined #html-wg 20:17:35 mjs has joined #html-wg 20:44:52 paullewis has joined #html-wg 20:53:09 DanC_lap has joined #html-wg 21:04:42 fwiw I find the use of subtree to mean "document or document fragment" confusing as well 21:29:49 jgraham_ has joined #html-wg 21:32:21 Lionheart has joined #html-wg 21:36:17 smedero has joined #html-wg 21:56:09 Hixie has joined #html-wg 21:57:03 Zeros has joined #html-wg 21:58:33 adele_ has joined #html-wg 21:59:00 mjs_ has joined #html-wg 23:08:22 heycam has joined #html-wg 23:12:54 paullewis has joined #html-wg 23:33:13 Zeros has joined #html-wg