IRC log of xproc on 2008-06-19
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- Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
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- Date: 19 June 2008
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- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/06/19-agenda
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- Meeting: 116
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- Chair: Norm
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- Scribe: Norm
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- ScribeNick: Norm
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- XML_PMWG()11:00AM has now started
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- Zakim, [I is me
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- +ruilopes; got it
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- +Vojtech
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- Zakim, who's on the phne?
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- I don't understand your question, Norm.
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- Zakim, who's on the phone?
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- On the phone I see PGrosso, Norm, ruilopes, Vojtech
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- zakim, please call ht-781
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- ok, ht; the call is being made
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- Topic: Accept this agenda?
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- -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/06/19-agenda
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- Norm proposes to add C14N to the agenda
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- Accepted as amended.
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- Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
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- -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/06/12-minutes.html
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- Norm: Thank you, Henry, for chairing.
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- Norm: And scribing!
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- Accepted.
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- Vonage dropped me!
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- Topic: Next meeting: telcon 26 June 2008?
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- zakim, disconnect ht
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- Ht is being disconnected
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- -Ht
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- zakim, please call ht-781
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- ok, ht; the call is being made
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- +Ht
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- None regrets heard.
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- Topic: Comments on current editor's draft?
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- Norm: Anyone looked at it?
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- Henry: Not I, sorry.
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- Zakim, who's on the phone?
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- On the phone I see PGrosso, Norm, ruilopes, Vojtech, Ht
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- Present: Paul, Norm, Rui, Vojtech, Henry
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- Topic: p:filter select expressions
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- Norm: I put this on because there was a thread, but I think it all resolved itself.
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- Norm: The p:filter step needs to throw an error if you get non-nodes.
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- Vojtech: Yes, and I wanted to reuse an XD error but we should use a component error.
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- Present: Paul, Norm, Rui, Vojtech, Henry, Alex
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- Topic: Error code QNames
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- Vojtech: Can the p:error step throw err:XD* errors?
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- Norm: I think it should be allowed to.
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- Vojtech: I think it makes it possible for a step to re-throw errors, which could be usefl.
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- Norm: Anyone opposed?
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- Proposal: there are no constraints on what errors p:error can throw.
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- Rui: What about static errors?
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- Norm: The fact that you'd have to throw an error if someone attempted to throw an error that they're not allowed to throw is sufficiently bizarre that I think we shouldn't bother.
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- Accepted.
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- Topic: C14N support
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- Norm attempt to summarize the minutes
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- Norm: For V1.0, let's leave it up to implementors to use an implementation-defined method.
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- Alex: But if someone wanted to do it, they'd need to use extension attributes
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- Some discussion about whether or not extension attributes are allowed on p:serialization. They are.
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- Alex: I'm ok with this story.
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- Proposal: Do nothing for this in V1.0
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- Norm observes that Mohamed isn't here, but hopefull that'll be ok.
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- Accepted.
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- Topic: Any other business?
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- Alex: There were some questions about http-request.
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2008Jun/0031.html
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- Vojtech: If @detailed is false, is the c:body element generated or not?
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- Alex: If it's not specified, you get the raw content for XML media types, otherwise you get a c:body with data inside.
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- Vojtech: It seems clear to me now.
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- Alex: You can put multipart inside multipart, but I don't think we should try to deal with that.
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- ...I think we should only do the first level.
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- Vojtech: But there's no way you can dive deeper into the multipart-mixed
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- Alex: There's a hole there, but I don't think I want to get http-request to dig deeper
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- Norm: I'm comfortable with the answer.
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- Vojtech: I was just wondering
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- Proposal: We're only going to support one-level of de-multiparting.
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- ACTION: Alex to add a note to the spec to indicate that we'll only do one level.
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- Some discussion of content-type vs. encoding.
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- Vojtech: Then maybe what's missing is some discussion of what to do if the encoding is base64
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- Norm: Maybe an example that uses base64 encoding would help.
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- Vojtech: The test suite could cover this.
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- ACTION: Norm+Alex to construct examples for the test suite
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- Some discussion of the note at the end of the "Converting Response Entity Bodies" section (7.1.9/10.4)
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- Alex: If you send the data with a non-Unicode character encoding, that's not our problem.
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- Proposal: Strike the note.
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- Accepted.
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- Adjourned.
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/19-xproc-minutes.html Norm
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