IRC log of er on 2008-06-18
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- 12:24:36 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-er-irc
- 12:24:42 [Zakim]
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- 12:24:48 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be ert
- 12:24:48 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
- 12:24:54 [shadi]
- meeting: ERT WG
- 12:24:57 [shadi]
- chair: Shadi
- 12:25:17 [shadi]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Jun/0003.html
- 12:25:28 [shadi]
- agenda+ Outstanding action items
- 12:25:37 [shadi]
- agenda+ WCAG 2.0 evaluation tools
- 12:26:44 [shadi]
- zakim, ping me in 3
- 12:26:44 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi
- 12:29:43 [JohannesK]
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- shadi, you asked to be pinged at this time
- 12:30:04 [Zakim]
- WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
- 12:30:08 [shadi]
- zakim, code?
- 12:30:08 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 3794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
- 12:30:12 [Zakim]
- +CarlosV
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- +[IPcaller]
- 12:30:27 [JohannesK]
- zakim, CarlosV is really JohannesK
- 12:30:27 [Zakim]
- +JohannesK; got it
- 12:30:28 [shadi]
- zakim, ipcaller is me
- 12:30:28 [Zakim]
- +shadi; got it
- 12:31:56 [Zakim]
- +[IBM]
- 12:32:10 [shadi]
- zakim, ibm is really Mike
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- +Mike; got it
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- 12:33:04 [carlosI]
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- +Carlos_Iglesias
- 12:34:07 [shadi]
- regrets: CarlosV
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- scribe: CarlosI
- 12:34:42 [shadi]
- scribenick: carlosI
- 12:34:52 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 12:34:52 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Outstanding action items" taken up [from shadi]
- 12:37:03 [carlosI]
- SAZ: CV says his AI will be for the next week
- 12:37:15 [carlosI]
- CI: mine will be too
- 12:37:35 [carlosI]
- MS: would be possible to view some Pointers examples?
- 12:37:52 [carlosI]
- CI: There will be some of them in the Pointers document
- 12:39:32 [Zakim]
- -shadi
- 12:39:54 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 12:40:00 [shadi]
- zakim, ipcaller is me
- 12:40:00 [Zakim]
- +shadi; got it
- 12:41:32 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 2
- 12:41:32 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "WCAG 2.0 evaluation tools" taken up [from shadi]
- 12:41:47 [carlosI]
- SAZ: CI please give yourself a deadline on next Friday and post to the list whatever you have
- 12:42:21 [carlosI]
- SAZ: WCAG 2.0 is in CR
- 12:42:54 [carlosI]
- SAZ: web sites that implement WCAG 2.0 are being evaluated
- 12:43:18 [carlosI]
- SAZ: would like to have evaluation tools for mainly two reasons
- 12:43:39 [carlosI]
- SAZ: first the can help people to implement WCAG 2.0
- 12:44:03 [carlosI]
- SAZ: second they demonstrate by themselves that the REC is testable
- 12:44:28 [carlosI]
- SAZ: we need to think how to encourage people to implement WCAG 2.0 tools
- 12:45:14 [carlosI]
- SAZ: first idea is try to classify current techniques (automatic, semiautomatic, manual...)
- 12:45:37 [carlosI]
- SAZ: would this help?
- 12:46:03 [carlosI]
- MS: where would these indications be?
- 12:46:22 [carlosI]
- SAZ: haven't thought about this
- 12:47:28 [carlosI]
- SAZ: should not be difficult to do
- 12:48:00 [shadi]
- brb
- 12:48:18 [carlosI]
- MS: will be happy to take an action for a first check on this
- 12:54:56 [carlosI]
- SAZ: would this useful?
- 12:55:04 [carlosI]
- JK: yes
- 12:56:17 [carlosI]
- SAZ: another idea is to try to collect information about tool implementations
- 12:57:14 [carlosI]
- SAZ: recollect what techniques tools implementors are implementing
- 12:57:58 [carlosI]
- MS: that would encourage more external participation
- 12:58:15 [carlosI]
- SAZ: think so
- 12:58:42 [carlosI]
- SAZ: may start a sort of competition but also may help to identify interest areas
- 12:59:26 [carlosI]
- SAZ: the difficult here is how to organize this information
- 12:59:58 [carlosI]
- SAZ: one option is try to merge it with the tools list
- 13:00:22 [carlosI]
- SAZ: other is link from the techniques document
- 13:01:15 [carlosI]
- SAZ: W3C is vendor neutral
- 13:01:27 [carlosI]
- SAZ: it does not evaluate products
- 13:01:51 [carlosI]
- SAZ: but at CR it can study implementations
- 13:02:36 [carlosI]
- SAZ: we can use test samples to see how tools behave with them
- 13:05:18 [carlosI]
- SAZ: an implementation report could include information about web sites and tools that implement a certain WCAG 2.0 feature
- 13:09:19 [carlosI]
- MS: is there any body validating the test cases?
- 13:09:39 [carlosI]
- SAZ: there's an ERT task force doing that work
- 13:10:59 [Zakim]
- -Mike
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- -JohannesK
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- -Carlos_Iglesias
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- -shadi
- 13:11:07 [Zakim]
- WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
- 13:11:08 [Zakim]
- Attendees were JohannesK, shadi, Mike, Carlos_Iglesias
- 13:20:16 [shadi]
- zakim, bye
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- 13:20:24 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 13:20:29 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 13:20:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/18-er-minutes.html shadi
- 13:20:30 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 13:20:34 [shadi]
- rrsagent, bye
- 13:20:34 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items