19:52:35 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
19:52:35 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-irc
19:52:42 <Ben> RRSAgent, make log world
19:52:49 <Ben> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
19:53:22 <Ben> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008AprJun/0075.html
19:53:40 <Ben> agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
19:53:50 <Ben> agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 12 June 2008
19:54:38 <Ben> Chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
19:54:44 <Ben> ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
19:55:17 <Ben> Regrets: Roberto_Scano, Roberto_Ellero, Alex_Li, Sofia_Celic
19:57:56 <Christophe> Christophe has joined #wai-WCAG
19:58:27 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
19:58:29 <Zakim> +Cooper
19:58:44 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
19:59:31 <Zakim> + +1.410.757.aaaa
20:01:05 <Zakim> +??P4
20:01:10 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.410 is Drew_LaHart
20:01:10 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart; got it
20:01:13 <Zakim> +??P5
20:01:17 <bengt> zakim, ??P4 is Bengt_Farre
20:01:17 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:01:19 <Ben> zakim, ??P5 is Ben_Caldwell
20:01:19 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:01:26 <Zakim> +??P6
20:01:29 <Zakim> +Don
20:01:38 <Zakim> + +1.703.883.aabb
20:01:58 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.703 is Tim_Boland
20:01:58 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland; got it
20:02:02 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P6 is Karl_Groves
20:02:02 <Zakim> +Karl_Groves; got it
20:02:03 <Zakim> +[IBM]
20:02:10 <MichaelC> zakim, IBM is Andi-Snow-Weaver
20:02:10 <Zakim> +Andi-Snow-Weaver; got it
20:02:22 <MichaelC> zakim, Andi is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:02:22 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
20:02:46 <Andi> Andi has joined #wai-wcag
20:02:52 <Kgroves> Kgroves has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:12 <Zakim> + +1.206.276.aacc
20:03:30 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.206 is Chris_Brownrigg
20:03:30 <Zakim> +Chris_Brownrigg; got it
20:03:48 <Loretta> Loretta has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:49 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:04:17 <Drew> Drew has joined #wai-wcag
20:05:06 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:05:18 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:05:29 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
20:05:29 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:05:41 <David_MacDonald> David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag
20:05:56 <Zakim> +Christophe
20:06:03 <Christophe> zakim, Christophe is Christophe_Strobbe
20:06:03 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe; got it
20:06:10 <Drew> scribe:drew
20:07:08 <MichaelC> scribe: Drew
20:10:04 <Zakim> -Don
20:10:49 <Zakim> +??P7
20:11:05 <Zakim> +Don
20:12:37 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:19:34 <Kgroves> Kgroves has joined #wai-wcag
20:20:42 <Ben> agenda?
20:20:46 <Ben> zakim, close agendum 1
20:20:46 <Zakim> agendum 1, Announcements, Questions, and Updates, closed
20:20:48 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
20:20:49 <Zakim> 2. Miscellaneous Proposals for 12 June 2008 [from Ben]
20:20:51 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 2
20:20:51 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 12 June 2008" taken up [from Ben]
20:21:09 <Drew> topic: Sufficient technique for 1.2.7: Providing a second version of a movie 
20:21:48 <David_MacDonald> zakim, who's making noise?
20:22:07 <Zakim> David_MacDonald, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben_Caldwell (96%), Tim_Boland (3%)
20:22:37 <David_MacDonald> zakim, mute Tim_Boland
20:22:37 <Zakim> Tim_Boland should now be muted
20:23:47 <Loretta> 2. Full pages: Conformance (and conformance level) is for full Web page(s) only, and cannot be achieved if part of a Web page is excluded.
20:23:49 <Loretta> Note 1: For the purpose of determining conformance, a conforming alternative to part of a page's content is considered part of the page when the alternative content is obtainable directly from the page, e.g., a long description.
20:33:29 <Drew> Action: Andrew to review existing techniques that are alternate version techniques
20:35:32 <David_MacDonald> zakim, mute me
20:35:32 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
20:36:32 <Drew> Action: Create a new sufficient technique for allowing user to set preferences for the display of alternate versions
20:37:32 <Drew> Resolution: Accept as amended
20:37:51 <Drew> Topic: Providing a control near the top of the Web page that turns off sounds that play automatically
20:40:29 <Andi> scribe: Andi
20:40:42 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:41:14 <Loretta> Thanks, Andi
20:41:17 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:45:42 <Andi> resolution: accept technique "Providing a control near the top of the page..." as amended
20:46:04 <Andi> topic: Playing sounds only on user request
20:46:52 <Andi> resolution: accept technique "Playing sounds only on user request" as amended
20:47:08 <Andi> topic: Providing a user interface control to pause or stop multimedia
20:53:22 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
20:53:29 <David_MacDonald> zakim, unmute me
20:53:29 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
20:55:29 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:56:11 <Drew> scribe: Drew
21:19:45 <Drew> Action: Andi to look for a portal example
21:20:27 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:20:43 <Drew> Action: Andrew to look for examples where the presence of AT causes sounds to not be played automatically 
21:21:04 <Zakim> -Chris_Brownrigg
21:22:08 <Zakim> + +1.608.692.aadd
21:22:24 <Drew> Resolution: Remove this technique
21:22:43 <Ben> zakim, +1.608.692.aadd is Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:22:43 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
21:23:37 <Drew> topic: Providing a multi color selection tool on the page for foreground and background colors
21:29:59 <Zakim> -Karl_Groves
21:37:49 <Drew> Action: Ben and Cynthia to rework this technique as a general technique
21:44:46 <Drew> Action: David and Loretta to develop interim version of this technique.
21:45:21 <Drew> topic: 1.4.8: Providing a button on the page to increase line spaces
21:53:50 <Drew> Resoluton: Provisionally accept as amended, dependaet on the style switching work
21:54:03 <Drew> s/dependaet/dependent
21:54:23 <Zakim> -??P7
21:54:39 <Drew> topic:  Specifying text and background colors of secondary content
21:55:22 <Drew> Resolution: Accept as amended
21:55:57 <Drew> topic:  Providing an additional stylesheet that does not specify colors for the main content body
21:57:53 <Zakim> +??P6
21:57:54 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
22:00:40 <Drew> Resolution: accept
22:02:00 <Drew> s/Resolution: accept/Resolution: Remove this as a separate technique, combine with previous technique 
22:02:26 <Drew> topic:  Not interfering with the user agent's reflow of text as the viewing window is narrowed? 
22:05:16 <Loretta> http://www.hardindd.com/stage/trace/index.php
22:12:32 <Zakim> -Drew_LaHart
22:14:31 <MichaelC> q+ to note that user1 entered data for the same test twice; I hope that will be restricted to once per user/os/at/etc.?
22:15:27 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
22:15:36 <MichaelC> q+ to ask where notes users enter during the test process appear? can't imagine thay just all show up in a batch
22:37:08 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
22:38:02 <Zakim> -Don
22:38:45 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
22:38:46 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
22:38:47 <Zakim> -??P6
22:38:49 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:38:49 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:38:49 <Zakim> -Cooper
22:38:52 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
22:38:53 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell
22:38:53 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
22:38:55 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
22:38:56 <Zakim> Attendees were Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, +1.410.757.aaaa, Drew_LaHart, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Don, +1.703.883.aabb, Tim_Boland, Karl_Groves, Andi-Snow-Weaver, Andi_Snow-Weaver,
22:39:00 <Zakim> ... +1.206.276.aacc, Chris_Brownrigg, David_MacDonald, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cynthia_Shelly, Christophe_Strobbe, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Gregg_Vanderheiden
22:39:23 <bengt> bengt has left #wai-wcag
23:46:14 <Ben> Zakim, bye
23:46:14 <Zakim> Zakim has left #wai-wcag
23:46:20 <Ben> RRSAgent, bye
23:46:20 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
23:46:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andrew to review existing techniques that are alternate version techniques [1]
23:46:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-irc#T20-33-29
23:46:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Create a new sufficient technique for allowing user to set preferences for the display of alternate versions [2]
23:46:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-irc#T20-36-32
23:46:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andi to look for a portal example [3]
23:46:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-irc#T21-19-45
23:46:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andrew to look for examples where the presence of AT causes sounds to not be played automatically  [4]
23:46:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-irc#T21-20-43
23:46:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben and Cynthia to rework this technique as a general technique [5]
23:46:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-irc#T21-37-49
23:46:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David and Loretta to develop interim version of this technique. [6]
23:46:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-wai-wcag-irc#T21-44-46