IRC log of webapps on 2008-06-11

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18:30:35 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-webapps-irc
18:30:37 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs public
18:30:37 [Zakim]
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18:30:39 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be WAPP
18:30:39 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
18:30:40 [trackbot]
Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 11 June 2008
18:31:05 [shepazu]
Zakim, call shepazu
18:31:07 [Zakim]
sorry, shepazu, I don't know what conference this is
18:31:23 [shepazu]
Zakim, this will be DOM3
18:31:29 [Zakim]
ok, shepazu; I see IA_WebAPI(DOM3)2:30PM scheduled to start now
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IA_WebAPI(DOM3)2:30PM has now started
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+??P6
18:31:56 [shepazu]
Zakim, call shepazu
18:31:56 [Zakim]
ok, shepazu; the call is being made
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+Shepazu
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+??P7
18:32:02 [smaug]
Zakim, ??P6 is me
18:32:02 [Zakim]
+smaug; got it
18:32:14 [aemmons]
zakim, ??p7 is me
18:32:14 [Zakim]
+aemmons; got it
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+[Microsoft]
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+Carmelo
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18:34:13 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/11_Jun_2008
18:37:31 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/DOM3_Events_Semantic_Requirements
18:37:55 [CGI735]
I'll scribe again :)
18:38:23 [CGI735]
CGI735: /nick Travis
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18:38:48 [Travis]
So, uh, that's me.
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scribe: Travis
18:40:01 [Travis]
scibeNick: Travis
18:40:14 [Travis]
Topic: WebApps WG now ready.
18:42:25 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/
18:42:42 [Travis]
shepazu: All who haven't already should join the WG.
18:43:12 [Travis]
... contact your AC rep to join and nominate yourself
18:44:26 [Travis]
... With all the WG overhead behind me, I can now really start focusing on Events spec.
18:44:44 [Travis]
... I appreciate your patience.
18:45:42 [Travis]
Topic: Review onFoo vs. addEventListener
18:45:43 [shepazu]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Jun/0019.html
18:45:50 [shepazu]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapi/2008Jun/att-0019/event_handler_relationships.htm
18:46:04 [smaug]
the example didn't work on my IE :p
18:48:57 [Travis]
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18:49:31 [smaug]
Again the link about onFoo in HTML5 http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#event3
18:50:06 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/
18:51:23 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/2
18:55:15 [Travis]
aemmons: SVG tiny doesn't support the "on" event handler syntax, but SVG 1.1 does
18:55:27 [Travis]
... not implemented right now.
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18:57:41 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Core/core.html
19:02:02 [Travis]
shepazu: It would be good for us to say "something" about the onFoo versus "foo" events.
19:02:14 [Travis]
... Would be nice to put a note in the spec about how these relate.
19:04:47 [Travis]
Action: shepazu Continue discussion on list regarding event handler attributes and should they be specified in DOM L3 Events
19:04:47 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-2 - Continue discussion on list regarding event handler attributes and should they be specified in DOM L3 Events [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-06-18].
19:06:05 [Travis]
shepazu: Not clear to me that DOM L3 events should integrate event handlers.
19:06:19 [Travis]
... We'll bring it up on the list.
19:06:31 [Travis]
Topic: Testing
19:06:46 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/DOM3_Events_Semantic_Requirements
19:08:52 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/testing/assertions.html
19:15:07 [Travis]
shepazu: Each testable assertion may have a variable amount of tests...
19:15:22 [Travis]
... The more params to a function, the more tests.
19:15:34 [Travis]
... (parameter in the general sense)
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... objects from which it can be invoked
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... negative tests (isn't on objects that it shouldn't be on)
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... test exceptions
19:20:39 [Travis]
Action: Travis write the list about Error vs DOMException
19:20:39 [trackbot]
Sorry, couldn't find user - Travis
19:40:11 [Zakim]
-Carmelo
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-aemmons
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-smaug
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-Shepazu
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disconnecting the lone participant, [Microsoft], in IA_WebAPI(DOM3)2:30PM
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IA_WebAPI(DOM3)2:30PM has ended
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Attendees were Shepazu, smaug, aemmons, [Microsoft], Carmelo
20:05:32 [shepazu]
RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/11-webapps-minutes.html shepazu
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