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Internationalization Core WG

04 Jun 2008

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Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Michael, Yves, David
Regrets
Andrew, Felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison

Contents


 

 

<scribe> Scribe: Addison

<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip

Agenda

Info Share

richard: spoke at @media
... pretty good crowd (in the queen elizabeth hall); quite impressive crowd
... richard to print the handouts and announce them
... talked about char encodings and lang declarations; some on text expansion
... went well; about 25-30 came up afterwards with supportive comments

Action Items

[OPEN] ACTION: Addison to check latest XMLHTTPRequest LC draft against previous comments made when we reviewed the document

[OPEN] ACTION: Addison to guide decision next week (28th May) on which document(s) to tackle next from Charmod, etc list, and choose editor(s) to get work started

[OPEN] ACTION: Andrew to continue work on What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8?

[OPEN] ACTION: Felix to check whether there are any issues in CURIE Syntax spec http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-curie-20080506/

[OPEN] ACTION: Felix to report issue "IRI/URI Canonicalization does not address IRIs with IDNs" to the IDNA WG at IETF and see if they have any comments

[OPEN] ACTION: Addison to write an alternative proposal for the para giving an example in SSML 3.2.1

[OPEN] ACTION: Addison: write basic outline in wiki for a note on case folding

<scribe> ACTION: Addison to send link to Stephane's summary of the extlang mess to list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-core-minutes.html#action01]

TPAC Schedule and Meeting Planning

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2008Jun/0000.html

richard: LGTM

schedule: meeting monday tuesday in a 15 person room

addison: opportunity to do editing together

yves: not attending

<David> I should be there - we're holidaying nearby!

location: cannes-mandelieu

in october: bring your bathing costume

html access element

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/WD-xhtml-access-20080526/

richard: a way of making things happen via the keyboard
... has attribute called 'key' which is a single unicode char that represents a shortcut key
... uses in all sorts of ways that suggest that 1 key == 1 character
... and that there are no i18n issues here
... no reference to DOM3 KeyEvents
... thinking of writing to them asking for clarification
... maybe we should sit down and enumerate the issues with keys and key events
... not clear if key represents key press action or result of key press action

addison: have a title attribute with text (human readable)

richard: title is overloaded attribute too
... maybe have element contain text instead
... allows for <span> and other useful markup
... follow ITS guidelines

addison: I support those comments

yves: felix reviewed for ITS IG... nothing really from them

richard: so we should go ahead and make these comments

addison: the element builds an association between a "letter" and some specific text

<scribe> ACTION: Richard: to build comments on XHTML Access and send to XHTML [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-core-minutes.html#action02]

Widgets and language negotiation comment review/approval

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008AprJun/0052.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008AprJun/0053.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008AprJun/0061.html

What you should probably say is:

--

The user's language preferences as a comma-separated list of basic language ranges as defined in [BCP47]. The first item represents the user's most preferred language range [BCP47], followed by the next most preferred language and so forth. For example, "en, fr, es", where English is preferred over French, and French is preferred over Spanish, and Spanish is preferred over the default. Each language range MUST match the 'language-range' production in RFC 46

--

Davids comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008AprJun/0059.html

<YvesS> oops... dropped. Coming back

any objection to making these official comments?

carried... no objection

OWL and I18N issues

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2008AprJun/0065.html

As a result of (3) there is likely to be regex matching against the

langtag, as opposed to RFC 4647 language ranges. I believe that regex

matching is more powerful, so that RFC 4647 could be supported by

software compliant with the spec being written, but explicit support for

RFC 4647 is currently not envisaged.

<scribe> ACTION: Addison: Prepare comments on OWL changes for review next week (11 June) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-core-minutes.html#action03]

AOB?

richard: pemberton says they are going to write a schema for Ruby
... ruby spec has informal point to DTD for use in XHTML
... do we want to change Ruby spec to also point to Schema
... Ruby is REC-Track
... maybe we can't change? need to investigate how to do errata on it
... pemberton to send formal request to our list

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Addison to send link to Stephane's summary of the extlang mess to list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-core-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Addison: Prepare comments on OWL changes for review next week (11 June) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-core-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Richard: to build comments on XHTML Access and send to XHTML [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/04-core-minutes.html#action02]
 
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