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14:57:21 <Zakim> ok, Ralph; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:57:29 <Ralph> Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML Task Force
14:58:08 <Ralph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008May/0211.html
14:59:05 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/05/15-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-05-15
14:59:48 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
14:59:55 <Zakim> +??P14
15:00:01 <ShaneM> zakim, p14 is ShaneM_
15:00:04 <Zakim> sorry, ShaneM, I do not recognize a party named 'p14'
15:00:12 <ShaneM> Zakim, ??P14 is ShaneM
15:00:12 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
15:00:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:00:35 <msporny> zakim, I am ?[IPcaller]
15:00:35 <Zakim> sorry, msporny, I do not see a party named '?[IPcaller]'
15:00:39 <Zakim> +Ralph
15:01:03 <msporny> zakim, I am [IPcaller]
15:01:03 <Zakim> ok, msporny, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
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15:01:40 <Ralph> Chair: Manu
15:01:43 <Ralph> Regrets: Michael
15:01:52 <Steven> doh. I was in the wrong channel all afternoon!
15:01:57 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:01:57 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:01:59 <Zakim> +Steven
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15:02:45 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
15:02:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
15:03:27 <Zakim> + +0208761aaaa
15:03:34 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am aaaa
15:03:34 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
15:08:16 <Ralph> scribenick: ralph
15:08:24 <Ralph> ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
15:08:26 <Ralph> -- continues
15:08:34 <Ralph> ACTION: Manu to reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get RDFa integrated into Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
15:08:36 <Ralph> -- continues
15:09:55 <Ralph> [DONE] ACTION: Mark to move _:a bnode notation to normative section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action05]
15:10:09 <Ralph> ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
15:10:12 <Ralph> -- continues
15:10:26 <Ralph> ACTION: Michael to determine which useless-triples test cases to remove and which to add. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
15:10:28 <Ralph> -- continues
15:10:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
15:11:04 <Ralph> Topic: Response to TAG
15:11:31 <Ralph> Steven: I don't really understand DanC's point
15:12:00 <Ralph> Mark: the idea of "Follow your nose" seems to mean "let's leave HTML and XHTML untouched but add something else"
15:12:11 <Ralph> ... but we _are_ changing XHTML1
15:12:21 <Ralph> ... reading the TAG minutes I get the impression that Tim is open to this
15:13:10 <Ralph> ... others seem to worry about folks who may accidentally use our new attributes without intending to do so
15:13:35 <Ralph> ... we should take a stand that these new attributes should be used only for the purpose of generating triples
15:13:51 <Ralph> Steven: and furthermore, doing this does not change the meaning of any existing HTML page
15:14:00 <Ralph> ... it just formalizes what the page really means
15:14:10 <Ralph> Manu: is there a concern about the HTML5 series?
15:14:27 <Ralph> ... at one point they said that while this may be good for XHTML, @profile does not exist for HTML5
15:14:33 <Ralph> Shane: that's not our problem
15:14:39 <Ralph> Ralph: I agree with Shane
15:14:54 <Steven> +1
15:15:02 <Ralph> Shane: I had an off-line discussion with NoahM and perhaps someone else
15:15:23 <Ralph> ... Tim definitely concurred with adding this to core XHTML1
15:15:34 <Ralph> ... and proposed annotating the namespace document to say this
15:15:55 <Ralph> ... some were concerned that this means every XHTML document currently on the Web then should generate triples
15:16:12 <Ralph> ... there was a suggestion that there be an announcement mechanism that tells parsers they _should_ generate triples
15:17:34 <Ralph> Ralph: why isn't this a problem for the consumer of the document rather than the author of the document?
15:17:49 <Ralph> ... I agree with Steven's comment that XHTML always has _meant_ this
15:18:08 <Ralph> ... so the author shouldn't be telling the client whether it should or shouldn't generate triples
15:18:12 <Ralph> ... the client decides that
15:18:24 <Ralph> Manu: running fuzbot for a while, it seems every page does generate triples
15:18:53 <Ralph> Shane: so fine, and we should update the media type spec to say that we now generate triples
15:19:01 <Ralph> ... this will make it clear that this is a big step
15:19:12 <markbirbeck> My argument for not requiring @profile or DTDs:
15:19:14 <markbirbeck> http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license
15:19:23 <Ralph> Steven: I don't agree with the argument that the media type must say that the document is used to generate triples
15:19:31 <markbirbeck> +1 Steven
15:19:43 <Ralph> ... the media type just identifies the type of document; it doesn't say how you should process it
15:19:58 <Ralph> Shane: in the RDF cases, the media type does say [something about] how to process it
15:20:04 <Ralph> Mark: that may be the TAG's point
15:20:24 <Ralph> ... the question "should we waste time processing this document if it doesn't contain RDFa" is one of two
15:20:59 <Ralph> ... the second is "if we process a document as if it contains RDFa, are we acquiring statements that people did not intend to make"?
15:21:09 <Ralph> ... the second is what the TAG is currently debating
15:21:29 <Ralph> ... a third question might concern @rel='license'
15:21:45 <Ralph> ... they're suggesting that we should *not* process @rel='license'
15:22:06 <Ralph> ... this means that >1M documents won't have this clear semantics
15:22:27 <Ralph> ... we can make all these documents available to RDFa easily
15:22:43 <Ralph> ... it's crazy to say none of these documents assert a license currently
15:22:58 <Ralph> Shane: as a group, we've agreed on this here
15:23:14 <Ralph> ... we only need to address the 'follow your nose' question; it's about how discovery works on the Web
15:23:22 <Ralph> ... related to 302 discussion
15:24:12 <Ralph> ... the TAG appears to have a whole big environment in mind, of which RDFa is a small part, and they want to know how this fits
15:24:31 <Ralph> ... how does a document containing RDFa say that it contains RDFa?
15:24:42 <Ralph> ... Tim says "they all do"
15:25:12 <Ralph> Mark: we think the interpretation of a document [is specified] even if the author didn't previously sign a contract
15:25:29 <Ralph> ... we're saying "here is an RDF interpretation of billions of documents that have [already] been published on the Web"
15:25:42 <Ralph> ... and we hope people will publish even more [data] than they have already done
15:25:46 <Ralph> Ralph: +1
15:26:03 <Ralph> Shane: it's not about imposing processing; it's about _permitting_ processing
15:26:22 <Ralph> ... the TAG's argument is that they don't see an explicit instruction and therefore can't map this into their world view
15:27:41 <Ralph> Ralph: does the TAG not believe that it is sufficient to have updated the XHTML1 namespace document?
15:27:53 <Ralph> Shane: there are two ways to update the namespace document; prose and with the GRDDL profile
15:28:02 <Ralph> ... the prose is more interesting to me
15:28:18 <Ralph> ... you go from the media type to the namespace document, not to the modularization document
15:29:41 <Ralph> ... we should propose to the TAG that we will follow Tim's recommendation and update the namespace document, both the prose and the machine-readable and all documents of type XHTML1 have RDF triples
15:29:44 <Ralph> Ralph: +1
15:29:50 <Ralph> STeven: +1
15:29:56 <Steven> "Published specification:
15:29:56 <Steven>       The text/html media type is now defined by W3C Recommendations;
15:29:56 <Steven>       the latest published version is ..."
15:30:23 <Steven> (THat's from the rfc for text/html)
15:30:33 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
15:30:44 <Ralph> ACTION: Shane draft a TAG response along the lines of "we will update the namespace document, both the prose and the machine-readable and all documents of type XHTML1 have RDF triples"
15:31:14 <Ralph> Topic: Test Cases
15:31:21 <msporny> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/rdfa-test-harness/
15:32:17 <Ralph> -- test 105;  inner @rel neither CURIE nor LinkType
15:32:41 <Ralph> Manu: oops, seems I broke the test case harness
15:32:47 <msporny> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
15:32:47 <msporny> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
15:32:47 <msporny> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"      
15:32:47 <msporny>       xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
15:32:47 <msporny>   <head>
15:32:48 <msporny>         <title>Test 0105</title>
15:32:50 <msporny>   </head>
15:32:52 <msporny>   <body>
15:32:54 <msporny>           <div about="" rel="dc:creator">
15:32:56 <msporny>          <a rel="myfoobarrel" href="ben.html">Ben</a> created this page.
15:32:58 <msporny>       </div>
15:33:00 <msporny>   </body>
15:33:02 <msporny> </html>
15:33:32 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
15:33:32 <msporny>         <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0105.xhtml> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> _:a .
15:33:32 <msporny>  }
15:34:18 <Ralph> Manu: _:a should be changed to ?a
15:34:40 <Ralph> ... we should verify that the object is a bnode
15:34:49 <Ralph> ... so nees a FILTER
15:34:53 <Ralph> s/nees/needs/
15:34:54 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
15:34:54 <msporny>         <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0105.xhtm
15:34:54 <msporny> l> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> ?a .
15:34:54 <msporny>  FILTER IsBlank(?a)
15:34:54 <msporny> }
15:35:31 <Ralph> Mark: to be a full test, we should check that there's not a triple with myfoobarrel as a predicate
15:35:38 <Ralph> Manu: we can't do that in a single query
15:35:57 <Ralph> Mark: could use NOT
15:36:13 <Ralph> Manu: I'll investigate
15:36:54 <Ralph> ... there are other tests that don't verify the absence of a triple
15:37:11 <Ralph> Mark: do we need @about="" ?
15:37:22 <Ralph> Steven: doesn't do any harm
15:37:57 <Ralph> RESOLVED: test 105 accepted, with change to check for absence of myfoobarrel triple
15:37:59 <ShaneM> +1
15:38:07 <msporny> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
15:38:07 <msporny> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
15:38:07 <msporny> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"      
15:38:07 <msporny>       xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
15:38:07 <msporny>   <head>
15:38:08 <msporny>         <title>Test 0106</title>
15:38:10 <msporny>   </head>
15:38:12 <msporny>   <body>
15:38:14 <msporny>           <div about="" rel="dc:creator">
15:38:18 <msporny>          <a rel="" href="manu.html">Manu</a> created this page.
15:38:20 <msporny>       </div>
15:38:22 <msporny>   </body>
15:38:24 <msporny> </html>
15:38:25 <Ralph> -- test 106; chaining with empty value in inner @rel
15:38:46 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
15:38:46 <msporny>         <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0106.xhtml> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> ?a .
15:38:46 <msporny>    FILTER IsBlank(?a)
15:38:46 <msporny>  }
15:38:54 <Ralph> Manu: add similar absence test to 106
15:39:39 <Ralph> Ralph: no predicate to check for absence in this case
15:41:02 <Ralph> Mark: a parser might blindly generate a predicate URI of http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/
15:41:19 <Steven> Is there an empty CURIE?
15:41:20 <Ralph> Ralph: even thought that wouldn't be a [semantically] valid predicate name
15:41:26 <Ralph> s/thought/though/
15:41:28 <Ralph> Mark: yep
15:41:29 <markbirbeck> I was thinking of the xhv namespace, Ralp.
15:41:44 <markbirbeck> s/Ralp./Ralph./
15:41:46 <Ralph> [yep, I copied the wrong test!]
15:41:50 <Ralph> s/test/text/
15:42:07 <Ralph> s|http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/|http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
15:42:22 <Ralph> Manu: we could test that there is no triple containing "Manu" as an object
15:42:29 <Ralph> Mark: yes, that's more sensible for both 106 and 105
15:42:54 <Ralph> RESOLVED: test 106 accepted, with change to check for absence of triples containing manu.html as either subject or object
15:43:23 <Ralph> Topic: handling of literals in test harness
15:43:48 <Ralph> Manu: we currently have 4 tests that fail; 100-103 because the literals are compared character by character
15:44:06 <msporny> <div />
15:44:09 <Ralph> ... even though the test is correct, the harness considers ''' and '"' to be different
15:44:12 <msporny> <div></div>
15:44:42 <Ralph> ... also, our test doesn't cover the case that <div /> and <div></div> are equivalent
15:44:56 <Ralph> ... I propose that we add two versions of each test; one in short form and one in long form
15:45:14 <Ralph> Ralph: sounds reasonable to me to duplicate the tests for the convenience of implementors
15:45:24 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
15:45:24 <msporny>  <http://www.example.org> <http://example.org/rdf/example> 'Some text here in <strong xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">bold</strong> and an svg rectangle: <svg:svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><svg:rect svg:height="100" svg:width="200"/></svg:svg>'^^<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntASK WHERE {
15:45:24 <msporny>  <http://www.example.org> <http://example.org/rdf/example> 'Some text here in <strong xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">bold</strong> and an svg rectangle: <svg:svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><svg:rect svg:height="100" svg:width="200"/></svg:svg>'^^<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#XMLLiteral> . 
15:45:27 <msporny>  }
15:45:29 <msporny> ax-ns#XMLLiteral> . 
15:45:31 <msporny>  }
15:45:33 <Ralph> Manu: ^ SPARQL for test 100
15:45:42 <Ralph> ... this is nearly impossible [for a human] to read
15:45:47 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
15:45:47 <msporny>  <http://www.example.org> <http://example.org/rdf/example> 'Some text here in <strong xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">bold</strong> and an svg rectangle: <svg:svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><svg:rect svg:height="100" svg:width="200"/></svg:svg>'^^<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#XMLLiteral> . 
15:45:47 <msporny>  }
15:46:11 <Ralph> Manu: the idea would be to include UNION statements where '"' is exchanged for '''
15:46:31 <msporny> </svg:rect>
15:46:39 <Ralph> ... and has both self-closed and explicit close tags
15:46:48 <Ralph> ... for the convenience of both sax-based and DOM-based parsers
15:46:52 <Ralph> ... any objections?
15:46:55 <Ralph> [no objections]
15:47:06 <Ralph> Manu: I propose to update test 100-103 to add all four cases
15:47:31 <Ralph> Shane: I don't really object but I point out it's an "interesting" combinatorial problem to add all the cases to the SPARQL
15:47:45 <Ralph> Manu: modified proposal; only add those requested by implementors
15:48:10 <Ralph> Shane: also add a comment to the tests so when new implementors come along they know why they might be failing
15:48:50 <msporny> PROPOSE: Add implementors valid XML Literals to TC 100-103 and add comments to tell other implementors that the tests may fail due to XML Literal issues.
15:49:26 <msporny> PROPOSE: Add valid cases of XML Literals as requested by implementers to TC 100-103 and add comments to tell other implementors that the tests may fail due to XML Literal issues.
15:49:46 <Steven> ok
15:49:52 <Ralph> RESOLVED: Add valid cases of XML Literals as requested by implementers to TC 100-103 and add comments to tell other implementors that the tests may fail due to XML Literal issues.
15:50:13 <msporny> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/120
15:50:17 <Ralph> Topic: ISSUE-120
15:50:33 <Ralph> Manu: I believe we've resolved this
15:51:10 <Ralph> Shane: the resolution was a minor change in the document ~1 month ago
15:52:13 <Ralph> Mark: this was a case of reading the text two possible ways, where one way was really awkward
15:53:58 <Ralph> ... the problem I thought people were raising was that although the second [myfoobarrel] line does not generate a triple, it may also cause the first [dc:creator] line to not generate a triple
15:54:20 <Ralph> ... we should be more explicit that the nested element does complete the first triple even though it doesn't contain a valid @rel
15:54:38 <Ralph> ... I argued this was clear in the spec by interpretation of step 5
15:55:04 <Ralph> ... the wording is changed to refer to the presence of @rel attribute rather than to a @rel value
15:55:05 <msporny> PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-120 having made a minor change to the Syntax Document specifying that the presence of a @rel generates an incomplete triple
15:55:31 <msporny> PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-120 having made a minor change to the Syntax Document specifying that the presence of a @rel is sufficient to complete and incomplete triple.
15:55:46 <ShaneM> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/rdfa-syntax/Overview.mhtml.diff?r1=1.228&r2=1.229
15:55:51 <Ralph> RESOLVED: Resolve ISSUE-120 having made a minor change to the Syntax Document specifying that the presence of a @rel is sufficient to complete an incomplete triple.
15:56:14 <msporny> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/103
15:56:24 <Ralph> Topic: ISSUE-103
15:56:47 <Ralph> Manu: our email discussion boils down to "let's not change anything"
15:57:09 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/103 ISSUE-103 a URI-centric approach to CURIEs
15:57:18 <Ralph> Shane: the argument is that CURIEs are _not_ URIs
15:57:34 <Ralph> ... the implication of being a URI is that they could be used over the wire, but they can't be used over the wire
15:58:00 <Ralph> Mark: and we've suggested that languages that currently use QNAMEs could migrate over time to using CURIEs
15:59:12 <Ralph> Shane: in the TAG's recent CURIE Last Call comments they say that the CURIE syntax is too rich for use in SPARQL
16:00:18 <Ralph> Steven: and we're trying to fix that
16:00:26 <msporny> PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-103, CURIEs are not URI schemes, they are a macro expansion mechanism. No need to change the Syntax document.
16:00:30 <Ralph> s/that/that limitation in other languages/
16:01:09 <Steven> There are queries you would like to make that SPARQL cannot do, and CURIEs fix that
16:01:18 <Ralph> Mark: I'd like my email comment to be included; this is QNAME-like
16:01:34 <msporny> PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-103, CURIEs are not URI schemes, they are a macro expansion mechanism. No need to change the Syntax document. CURIEs are also QName-like, allowing legacy languages to migrate forward cleanly.
16:02:20 <Ralph> Ralph: +1
16:02:21 <markbirbeck> +1
16:02:29 <Steven> time
16:02:34 <Ralph> RESOLVED: ISSUE-103 closed, CURIEs are not URI schemes, they are a macro expansion mechanism. No need to change the Syntax document. CURIEs are also QName-like, allowing legacy languages to migrate forward cleanly.
16:04:08 <Ralph> Ralph: in SWD WG meeting, Ben was asked to confirm that the XHTML2 WG will be able to resolve a CR transition request by Tuesday 10 June
16:04:45 <Ralph> Shane: yes, XHTML2 WG will be able to resolve this by 11 June
16:04:55 <Ralph> Steven: but there's an XForms WG meeting on the 11th
16:05:33 <Ralph> Shane: XHTML2 WG will be able to resolve CR transition request by 17 June
16:05:51 <Ralph> ... and we should discuss the CR exit criteria
16:06:03 <Ralph> Steven: I propose "2 implementations that pass all tests"
16:06:13 <Ralph> Shane: we've had a request that there also be an XSLT implementation
16:06:36 <Ralph> ... however, I do not believe that such an implementation is possible
16:07:00 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
16:07:10 <Ralph> Steven: the minimum requirement is that there are 2 implementations of all features, and they don't all even have to be in one implementation
16:07:12 <Ralph> [adjourned]
16:07:16 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
16:07:40 <Zakim> -Steven
16:07:41 <Zakim> -ShaneM
16:07:42 <Zakim> -Ralph
16:07:42 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
16:07:43 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, [IPcaller], Ralph, Steven, +0208761aaaa, markbirbeck
16:07:52 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:07:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
16:07:57 <Steven> Mark?
16:08:08 <Steven> Shane, he's on Skype apparently
16:08:14 <ShaneM> ahh ok
16:08:25 <ShaneM> I need him for that impl report
16:09:26 <Ralph> i/Ralph: in SWD WG meeting/Topic: CR Transition Scheduling
16:09:29 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:09:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
16:09:32 <ShaneM> ShaneM has left #rdfa
16:09:39 <Ralph> zakim, bye
16:09:39 <Zakim> Zakim has left #rdfa
16:10:27 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye
16:10:27 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-actions.rdf :
16:10:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [1]
16:10:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-08-24
16:10:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get RDFa integrated into Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10] [2]
16:10:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-08-34
16:10:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [3]
16:10:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-10-09
16:10:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to determine which useless-triples test cases to remove and which to add. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [4]
16:10:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-10-26
16:10:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shane draft a TAG response along the lines of "we will update the namespace document, both the prose and the machine-readable and all documents of type XHTML1 have RDF triples" [5]
16:10:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-30-44