W3C

ERT WG

28 May 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Shadi, Johannes, Mike
Regrets
CarlosI
Chair
Shadi
Scribe
Mike

Contents


"HTTP Vocabulary in RDF"

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-HTTP-in-RDF-20080526

SAZ: Changes from telecon on 05/21 have been completed and are in latest editor's draft
... JK sent more comments and fixes are in place
... will clean up references and history sections
... work on 1) status of document and 2) are we willing to publish as is?
... any pubilcation show-stoppers?

<shadi> ACTION: SAZ remove "namespace" from table 2 (these are not namespaces) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/28-er-minutes.html#action01]

scribe: note that we do not have 2/3 of group present
... follow-up with CI and CV for any last-minute comments

<shadi> RESOLUTION: go ahead with publishing HTTP Vocabulary in RDF

SAZ: What are we looking for from public feedback and status?
... how these documents relate to POWDR
... feedback from other semantic web groups

CV: no ojbections to publication

SAZ: in particular, how schema performs and is evaluated by other semantic web groups and technologies
... Mobile Web group also interested in serialization of HTTP
... question for Mobile Web is how our XML representation would "play" with their representation

"Representing Content in RDF"

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Content/WD-Content-in-RDF-20080327

SAZ: very well-written; many comments already incorporated
... abstract too brief

definitely

scribe: merge section 1.3 use cases into itnroduction

Quick question - why is XMLContent not a sublcass of TextContent?

JK: separate classes bc they have different properties; e.g. XmlContent does not have chars but might be representation of in-memory DOM

ok - just curious from a new-commers perspective

JK: TextContent could be subclass of Base64Content since text could be represented that way

got it.

CV: too brief and possibly redundant
... content in RDF is a complementary document to Http in RDF so don't want to spend too much time on it

no

SAZ: keep in mind that this a distinct publication and needs a context
... people could randomly land on the document and abstract should spell out relationships and context

agree - especially spelling out the rleationships to EARL and Http in RDF

SAZ: part of a suite
... mimick format of Http in RDF

third bullet says, "http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Content/WD-Content-in-RDF-20080327

SAZ: can we have a provisional relation to publish contingent upon discussion of abstract on mailing list?

third bullet implicitly refers to EARL - might be a good palce to actually repeat or reiterate the relationship once abstract/intro is redone

under use cases

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/earl.php

SAZ: WAI web site lists all publications and relationships betwen them
... who is each doc for, what is it used for, etc.
... is it worth pointing back to this URL
... to provide an overview for first-time readers

given our time-frame, +1 for working it out on list

<shadi> RESOLUTION: go ahead with publishing Representing Content in RDF, pending changes to the abstract and introduction sections

<shadi> ACTION: CV to provide an updated abstract and introduction section for Representing Content in RDF document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/28-er-minutes.html#action02]

Draft ERT WG Charter

SAZ: publication of charter must occur in June so little time left
... time line needs adjustment; far too agressive
... on the other hand, need to push as far as possible to get EARL out

<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008May/0006

SAZ: heading is missing bc missing in W3C-wide template

MS: test description language part of charter for a potential deliverable?

SAZ: need to recruit members and otehr development/test organizations for feedback, requirements, and support
... part of TCDL is in Bentoweb project

CV: +1 for committing resources to effort

JK: +1

SAZ: believe CI was also interested so unanimity in effort
... how does it look in teh charter?
... proposed an analysis and requirements document as a deliverable
... once completed, we can recharter with more specific deliverables

<JohannesK> RDFa test case descriptions: <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/rdfa-xhtml1-test-manifest.rdf>

SAZ: workging group note
... in parallel with completion of EARL, consider a reorientation of the group
... test description languages
... how does EARL and supplementary docs fit into toher W3C work - RDFA, POWDER, Content Transformation, Mobile web
... focus deliverable that describs how EARL fits into these other efforts

<EtnaRosso> hi all, hi shadi

<EtnaRosso> Is a meeting in progress here?

<shadi> yes

<CarlosV> Christophe's analysis: http://bentoweb.org/html/BenToWeb_D4.1.html (Test Suites' State of the Art and Quality Assurance Methods for W3C Recommendations)

<CarlosV> Date: 28 February 2005 (a little bit old)

<EtnaRosso> see you

SAZ: no meeting Jun 4

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: CV to provide an updated abstract and introduction section for Representing Content in RDF document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/28-er-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: SAZ remove "namespace" from table 2 (these are not namespaces) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/28-er-minutes.html#action01]
 
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