IRC log of soap-jms on 2008-05-27
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-soap-jms-irc
- 15:41:58 [RolandMerrick]
- Meeting: SOAP-JMS WG teleconference
- 15:48:29 [RolandMerrick]
- Zakim, list
- 15:48:29 [Zakim]
- I see VB_VBWG()10:00AM, XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, Team_(rif)12:50Z, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active
- 15:48:32 [Zakim]
- also scheduled at this time are SW_HCLS(Chairs)12:00PM, WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_DAWG()10:30AM, Team_(rif)08:00Z, WS_SAWSDL()12:00PM, MWI_TSWG()11:00AM
- 15:48:52 [RolandMerrick]
- Zakim, thgis wiil be WS_SOAP-JM
- 15:48:53 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'thgis wiil be WS_SOAP-JM', RolandMerrick
- 15:49:04 [RolandMerrick]
- Zakim, this will be WS_SOAP-JM
- 15:49:04 [Zakim]
- ok, RolandMerrick; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
- 15:49:28 [RolandMerrick]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008May/0042.html
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- 15:50:22 [Zakim]
- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
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- +alewis
- 15:50:42 [Roland]
- Chair: Roland
- 15:51:43 [Roland]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- +Roland
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- +[IBM]
- 15:57:40 [Roland]
- Zakim, IBM is Phil
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- +Phil; got it
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- +Peter
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- +Plh
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- +Derek
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- -Phil
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- + +0196270aaaa
- 16:02:28 [Roland]
- Zakim, aaaa is MarkPhillips
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- +MarkPhillips; got it
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- +[Sun]
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- +[IBM]
- 16:03:44 [Roland]
- Zakim, Sun is Bhakti
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- +Bhakti; got it
- 16:03:54 [Roland]
- Zakim, IBM is Phil
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- +Phil; got it
- 16:04:12 [Roland]
- 06zakim, who is on the phone?01
- 16:04:35 [Roland]
- 06Zakim, who is on the phone?01
- 16:05:55 [Roland]
- 06Scribe: markPhillips
- 16:07:01 [markphillips]
- TOPIC: Draft spec
- 16:07:52 [markphillips]
- roland: A couple of updates to make
- 16:08:46 [markphillips]
- 1. The namespace needs to be updated
- 16:09:34 [markphillips]
- philippe: Recommend using ns namespace so that dates do not need to be updated
- 16:10:09 [Roland]
- 06www.w3c.org/ns/soap-jms ?
- 16:10:19 [plh]
- http://www.w3.org/ns/soap-jms
- 16:13:52 [Roland]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/06/soap-jms
- 16:13:54 [plh]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/05/soap-jms
- 16:15:23 [markphillips]
- The undated namespace would be the final namespace (for use at the CR stage). In the interim we should use a dated namespace for each draft of the spec.
- 16:17:39 [plh]
- http://www.w3.org/@@@@/@@/soapjms
- 16:24:43 [plh]
- "http://www.w3.org/2003/05/soap/bindings/HTTP/"
- 16:25:10 [plh]
- "http://www.w3.org/ns/soap/bindings/JMS/"
- 16:27:53 [plh]
- "http://www.w3.org/2008/06/soap/bindings/JMS/"
- 16:29:00 [markphillips]
- RESOLUTION: First working draft will use the year and month namespace (e.g. "http://www.w3.org/2008/06/soap/bindings/JMS/"). The final recommendation will be undated ( "http://www.w3.org/ns/soap/bindings/JMS/")
- 16:30:21 [markphillips]
- TOPIC: Testing conformance
- 16:31:00 [markphillips]
- roland: How should we construct a test plan?
- 16:35:17 [plh]
- http://dev.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/test-suite/Dashboard.html
- 16:35:55 [markphillips]
- plh: No best practices per se. For WSDL 2 an interchange format was used to capture the WSDL component model and testing was performed by comparing the interchange formats created by different implementations
- 16:36:26 [markphillips]
- For wire formats they defined a canonical representation of SOAP messages described by WSDL then compared to the wire format messages generated by different implementations
- 16:41:35 [markphillips]
- PhilAdams: Do we need to specify the API calls used to construct messages? If so we need to document them in the spec.
- 16:43:07 [markphillips]
- alewis: The spec implies the calls which are necessary. The only thing we have in common is the API.
- 16:47:41 [markphillips]
- PhilAdams: The test suite could act as the receiver (or producer) for messages and validate them
- 16:49:11 [markphillips]
- alewis: The advantage of the WSDL model is that a declarative and correct representation of messages can be produced and validated in isolation
- 16:50:31 [markphillips]
- roland: could we write up the different proposals for discussion
- 16:51:22 [markphillips]
- ACTION: PhilAdams to write up a test proposal due next week
- 16:51:22 [trackbot-ng]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - PhilAdams
- 16:51:34 [plh]
- trackbot-ng, status
- 16:51:46 [markphillips]
- ACTION: Amelia to write up a test proposal due next week
- 16:51:47 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-6 - Write up a test proposal due next week [on Amelia Lewis - due 2008-06-03].
- 16:52:15 [plh]
- ACTION: Phil to write up a test proposal due next week
- 16:52:16 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-7 - Write up a test proposal due next week [on Phil Adams - due 2008-06-03].
- 16:57:04 [Zakim]
- -Bhakti
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- -Phil
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- -alewis
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- -Derek
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- -Peter
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- -Roland
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- -MarkPhillips
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- -Plh
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- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were alewis, Roland, Phil, Peter, Plh, Derek, +0196270aaaa, MarkPhillips, Bhakti
- 16:57:28 [markphillips]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 16:57:28 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-soap-jms-minutes.html markphillips
- 17:26:46 [plh]
- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-soap-jms-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: PhilAdams to write up a test proposal due next week [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-soap-jms-irc#T16-51-22
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- ACTION: Amelia to write up a test proposal due next week [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-soap-jms-irc#T16-51-46
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- ACTION: Phil to write up a test proposal due next week [3]
- 17:26:48 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-soap-jms-irc#T16-52-15