IRC log of sml on 2008-05-22
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-irc
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- rrsagent, make logs visible
- 17:52:51 [MSM]
- johnarwe, an automotive problem has come up that I have to take care of right now; I'll be late for the call. Hopefully not too late, but late.
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- Meeting: SML WG Teleconference 22 May 2008
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- Chair: John Arwe
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- Regrets: Kirk
- 18:00:48 [johnarwe]
- zakim, this is sml
- 18:00:48 [Zakim]
- ok, johnarwe; that matches XML_SMLWG()2:00PM
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- Regrets: Jordan
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- Scribe: James Lynn
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- scribenick: Jim
- 18:05:21 [pratul]
- I will be representing Microsoft until Kumar shows up
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- Topic: Approval of Minutes
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- +Sandy
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008May/att-0078/20080515-sml-minutes.html
- 18:07:19 [Jim]
- No objections or updates noted.
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- Resolution: Minutes approved.
- 18:08:13 [Jim]
- Topic: Register for Edinburgh
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- register whether attending in person or by phone.
- 18:09:10 [Zakim]
- +ginny
- 18:09:26 [Jim]
- The CG is gravitating toward the week that we selected (Oct 27-31).
- 18:10:14 [Jim]
- Topic: F2F in October
- 18:10:28 [Zakim]
- +kumar
- 18:10:52 [pratul]
- Switching back to co-chair role now that Kumar is here
- 18:11:01 [Jim]
- Topic: Action Items
- 18:11:38 [Kumar]
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- Pratul: No ETA on his item.
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- Kumar: No update.
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- Topic: Bugs with no keywords or target
- 18:13:39 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5678
- 18:14:35 [MSM]
- zakim, please call MSM-617
- 18:14:35 [Zakim]
- ok, MSM; the call is being made
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- +MSM
- 18:14:54 [Jim]
- Close this bug as this was due to a technical problem on the server.
- 18:15:14 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5710
- 18:16:23 [Jim]
- Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.1 definitions do not match.
- 18:17:19 [Jim]
- Action: Julia to propose a change.
- 18:17:19 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-186 - Propose a change. [on Julia McCarthy - due 2008-05-29].
- 18:19:27 [Jim]
- Actioin 186 = Propose a text change for Bug 5710
- 18:19:39 [johnarwe]
- first sentence of 4.3 probably supplies the info missing per bug 5710
- 18:19:54 [Jim]
- Action 186 = Propose a text change for Bug 5710
- 18:20:45 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5711 Fuzzy phrase: "essentially the same"
- 18:23:39 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as editorial, does not need review.
- 18:24:15 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5712 Missing word "global" in schema annotation
- 18:29:35 [Jim]
- Kumar requested that we defer this to the next meeting to give him time to research whether the "global" restriction makes sense.
- 18:30:11 [Jim]
- Action: Kumar to research issue in Bug 5712.
- 18:30:11 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-187 - Research issue in Bug 5712. [on Kumar Pandit - due 2008-05-29].
- 18:30:52 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as needsAgreement.
- 18:31:34 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5713 Wording issues in Appendix E
- 18:31:49 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as editorial, does not need agreement.
- 18:32:15 [Jim]
- Topic: Decided Bugs
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- Topic: Bug 5513 Why does SML define sml:ref...
- 18:33:01 [Jim]
- Need to wait one more week.
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- Topic: Bug 5520
- 18:33:28 [Jim]
- Need to wait one more week.
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- Topic: Bug 5529
- 18:33:45 [Jim]
- Need to wait one more week.
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- Topic: Bug 5562
- 18:34:03 [Jim]
- Need to wait one more week.
- 18:34:20 [Jim]
- Topic: Bugs which need review
- 18:36:06 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5549 Explanation of notation for { }, [ ]
- 18:38:05 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5505 wrong type for schemaBinding
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- Resolution: Mark as FIXED
- 18:40:01 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5506 Update spec to clarify SML reference resolution
- 18:43:44 [johnarwe]
- first step: any objs to diff in comment 1?
- 18:44:18 [johnarwe]
- second step will be: assess agreement on proposal in comment 2
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- WG agrees on the changes shown in the diff file in sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.4.
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- WG agrees to the changes in Comment #2.
- 18:53:19 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as editorial, no need for review.
- 18:54:55 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5635 impl-define and impl dependent not defined
- 18:55:43 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as FIXED. Open a new bug to address "processor" per comment #5
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- Topic: HasProposal Bugs
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- Topic: Bug 5658 Restore accidental change to smlif:identityType
- 18:57:56 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as editorial, no review needed.
- 18:58:38 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5659 schemaComplete default value
- 18:59:29 [Jim]
- Proposal to have schemaComplete='false'
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- Resolution: Mark as editorial, does not need review.
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- Topic: Bug 5676 schemaComplete in 1 location
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- Proposal is to mov schemaComplete to modelType and update spec as per bug description.
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- Resolution: Mark as editorial, needs no review.
- 19:03:39 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5679 SML ref targets in SML and SML-IF do not agree
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- Resolution: Mark as editorial per proposal in description, needs no review.
- 19:05:38 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5680 Fix errors in schematron example
- 19:11:14 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as needs agreement.
- 19:11:45 [Jim]
- Action: Julia to discuss Bug 5680 with Valentina.
- 19:11:45 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-188 - Discuss Bug 5680 with Valentina. [on Julia McCarthy - due 2008-05-29].
- 19:12:36 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5707 clarify SML reference resolution
- 19:15:28 [johnarwe]
- this comes up I think because of the first sentence in the bug - we already talk about fragment-only uris
- 19:16:31 [johnarwe]
- MSM suggests that, to the degree we need to state anything, we note that it is a consequence of other normative documents, not a normative stmt promulgated by our specs
- 19:22:04 [johnarwe]
- the other sticky point about what I'll call this "transitive closure" issue of dependencies, is that if you (as we did with sml) want to say that it supports _either_ schema 1.0 or 1.1, you must choose between non-overlapping RFC numbers (because newer ones superseded older)
- 19:28:47 [pratul]
- John - we should do the ext comments bugs first
- 19:29:00 [pratul]
- due to the 2 week mandatory wait period
- 19:39:31 [Jim]
- Action: Kumar to draft a proposal for Bug 5707.
- 19:39:31 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-189 - Draft a proposal for Bug 5707. [on Kumar Pandit - due 2008-05-29].
- 19:39:50 [Jim]
- Resolution: Mark as needsAgreement.
- 19:40:37 [Jim]
- Topic: Bug 5519 Relationship between SML validity and XSD validity
- 19:53:26 [MSM]
- the lady or the tiger?
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- 20:00:34 [johnarwe]
- zakim, aaaa is julia
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- sorry, johnarwe, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
- 20:01:15 [johnarwe]
- time check - have to wrap soon
- 20:01:54 [Jim]
- Resolution: Remains needsAgreement. Pick up discussion on next call.
- 20:03:10 [MSM]
- test cases for lax fallback
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- -[Microsoft]
- 20:03:21 [Jim]
- Action: MSM to draft test case for lax falback.
- 20:03:21 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-190 - Draft test case for lax falback. [on Michael Sperberg-McQueen - due 2008-05-29].
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- -kumar
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- -johnarwe
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- RRSAgent, create minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/22-sml-minutes.html Jim
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- -Sandy
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- -MSM
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- -ginny
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- XML_SMLWG()2:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were [Microsoft], +1.919.227.aaaa, jim, johnarwe, Sandy, ginny, kumar, MSM
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