11:38:26 RRSAgent has joined #svg 11:38:26 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-irc 11:38:28 RRSAgent, make logs public 11:38:29 Zakim has joined #svg 11:38:31 Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG 11:38:31 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot-ng 11:38:33 Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference 11:38:35 Date: 21 May 2008 11:38:40 Topic: 1.2 testsuite review 11:38:46 Scribe: Erik 11:38:58 scribeNick: ed 11:39:07 Agenda: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Tiny_12#Test_Suite 11:40:03 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-02-t.svg 11:42:12 ED: there's a typo: "the green test is rendered" should be "the green text is rendered" 11:42:22 AE: yes 11:43:01 AE: all ok with this test? 11:43:15 (WG) yes, this test is approved 11:49:28 DS: we need a better process for doing the testsuite 11:49:42 ...we make a tool to create and approve tests, a webapp 11:50:25 ...with three fields, the filename, a textbox for the code, and a textbox for the pass criteria and a textbox for description 11:51:09 ...and a dropdown for which part of which spec it's testing. then you hit a button and it creates the test from the template 11:51:24 ...and the testcreator initials 11:52:00 ...and it also generates a reference image automatically, or you can upload a patchfile, once a test is created you can click on it to view it 11:52:23 ...when you're viewing it you can mark it as reviewed, approved or add comments 11:53:00 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-01-t.svg 11:54:48 AE: approved? 11:54:54 (WG): yes 11:55:11 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-03-t.svg 11:55:18 (WG) also approved 11:56:01 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-event-209-t.svg 11:56:49 AG: should be using d:operatorScript 11:57:51 ED: well, should work there, will the testsuite generation scripts have a problem you mean? 11:58:01 AG: not sure 11:58:14 ...i'll change the test description to match the other tests 11:59:00 AE: bitflash fails this, but I approve of this test 11:59:16 ...so we need to verify the reference image once it's created 11:59:26 ED: batik should pass this one 11:59:50 (WG) test approved 12:02:17 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-203-t.svg 12:03:50 (WG) test approved 12:05:19 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg 12:08:33 ED: my last comment about getBBox and getScreenCTM should be made into a new test 12:08:50 AG: some id:s are not xml:id, willfix that 12:10:32 ED: Opera has some more extensive tests, that check bboxes on elements inside , with display:none etc...will look into donating those 12:14:49 (WG) test approved 12:15:20 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-203-t.svg 12:16:57 ED: the text has been made green, but the circles are green which makes the text impossible to read when it overlaps 12:17:09 AE: ok, will make circles yellow 12:18:49 AG: some id:s are not xml:ids 12:19:19 AE: ok, will fix that too 12:21:32 ED: the numbers go off the screen there 12:27:54 (WG) ok, with all changes the test is approved 12:28:57 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg 12:29:56 AG: some id:s are not xml:ids 12:32:19 CL: this should use an epsilon comparison 12:33:35 TZ: ok, will modify the test to do that 12:33:45 ...and the id:s 12:34:04 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-237-t.svg 12:34:20 ED: i get overlapping text 12:34:51 AE: ok there are many subtests, and if you fail then it may overflow 12:35:00 ...but if it passes everything is visible 12:35:33 AG: using id:s not xml:ids 12:37:57 ED: DOMException.name and .message are not in tiny I think 12:40:23 CL: make the animated line invisible 12:40:57 (WG) test approved 12:41:58 ACTION: doug to write an automated test creation and editing framework 12:41:58 Created ACTION-2025 - Write an automated test creation and editing framework [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-28]. 12:42:18 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-218-t.svg 12:44:08 billyjack has joined #svg 12:44:22 ED: if you run the test locally this might give a security exception since it's accessing another domain 12:44:59 CL: yes, there should be a comment saying that you should run the servlet locally in these cases 12:46:52 ...should have a new cvs directory for the servlet 12:47:18 ED: doesn't catch exceptions 12:47:26 (WG) test approved 12:47:57 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgrect-201-t.svg 12:48:57 AE: need epsilon comparisons 12:53:54 ED: it does setFloatTrait("x", 25) on a text element, is that allowed since it can be a list of values? 12:57:10 ACTION: AE to clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed 12:57:10 Created ACTION-2026 - Clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-05-28]. 13:02:29 ACTION: AE to calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter 13:02:29 Created ACTION-2027 - Calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-05-28]. 13:04:19 (WG) test approved 13:04:58 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/styling-inherit-01-t.svg 13:06:12 ED: doesn't have clear pass criteria 13:11:51 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/spec/mobile/1.2/1.2NG/publish/styling.html#PropertyInheritance 13:11:58 it's 6.7 not 6.15 13:12:04 6.7 Property inheritance and computation 13:12:33 (WG) test approved 13:28:05 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg 13:30:12 not approved yet, has issues in the resource ball.svg 13:30:31 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/types-basic-202-t.svg 13:31:09 types-basicDOM-02-t.svg 13:31:44 ED: would like the filename to be all lowercase 13:32:07 AG: the operatorscript needs to be changed 13:33:59 AE: ok, making those fixes now 13:38:18 renamed to http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-204-t.svg 13:39:06 Zakim has left #svg 13:39:25 (WG) test approved 13:40:57 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg 13:45:18 (WG) test approved 13:46:03 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-226-t.svg 13:47:54 ED: the test assumes getCurrentTime has some epsilon, but I'm not sure the spec says anything about the required resolution 13:53:23 AE: ok, now checking only the lower bound 13:53:28 (WG) approved 13:55:31 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-202-t.svg 13:56:46 (WG) approved 13:58:42 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg 14:04:07 MikeSmith has joined #svg 14:05:45 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-236-t.svg 14:05:58 (WG) approve svgpoint-201 14:07:56 ED: there's no e.name or e.message 14:11:02 (WG) approved 14:11:54 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg 14:13:29 udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg needs text changed to red/green 14:14:25 ok, we'll do later edits to this file 14:14:35 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/script-element-203-t.svg 14:16:27 (WG) test approved 14:17:06 AE: we need a patchfile for the reference for this one 14:17:32 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-203-t.svg 14:19:36 (WG) approved 14:20:49 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a03-t.svg 14:21:07 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a-03-t.svg 14:24:28 ED: add explicit pass criteria 14:24:37 (WG) approved 14:25:26 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-206-t.svg 14:26:09 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-204-t.svg 14:29:46 (WG) approved 14:30:01 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/extend-namespace-02-t.svg 14:32:39 (WG) approved 14:34:23 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-216-t.svg 14:36:25 (WG) approved 14:36:39 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-232-t.svg 14:37:32 AE: uses e.name, e.message 14:38:55 (WG) approved 14:39:35 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-230-t.svg 14:40:24 AE: e.name again 14:42:26 ED: I'd like some time to look at this test 14:42:43 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/media-audio-215-t.svg 14:51:35 (WG) approved 14:51:51 AE: we need to find another soundclip though 14:52:05 ...and we need to generate a reference image for this 14:52:13 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg 14:53:31 postponed 14:53:41 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg 14:54:00 AG: same problems as previous one, I'll fix it 14:54:08 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-203-t.svg 14:55:47 ED: local -> external domain security thing again 14:57:59 (WG) approved 14:59:37 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg 15:03:49 here is the php script for the server access tests: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/resources/http_php.txt 15:08:42 (WG) approved 15:09:44 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg 15:10:47 ED: can fail a subtest but still show "passed" 15:16:40 AG: there's no frame around the test 15:18:00 (WG) approved 15:18:50 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg 15:20:38 postponed again 15:20:45 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg 15:23:20 ED: unclear pass criteria 15:23:24 postponed 15:23:32 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-202-t.svg 15:23:46 AG: using old template, needs update 15:24:20 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-09-t.svg 15:26:16 (WG) approved 15:28:04 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg 15:30:17 (WG) approved 15:31:46 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-225-t.svg 15:32:34 CL: has red-green dots, but not red-green text 15:33:02 (WG) approved 15:33:45 we need to generate the reference for this 15:34:14 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-201-t.svg 15:35:32 ACTION: CL to update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to the messages 15:35:32 Created ACTION-2028 - Update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to the messages [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-05-28]. 15:35:55 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg 15:36:11 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-234-t.svg 15:36:46 AE: e.name, e.message 15:37:09 (WG) approved 15:39:07 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-231-t.svg 15:39:19 rrsagent, here 15:39:19 See http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-irc#T15-39-19 15:40:24 (WG) approved 15:41:33 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg 15:43:50 (WG) approved 15:43:59 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgcolor-201-t.svg 15:45:06 (WG) approved 15:45:40 AG: needs to have xml:ids 15:46:55 AE fixes 15:47:12 rrsagent, make minutes 15:47:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html ChrisL 15:47:34 rrsagent, make logs public 15:47:38 rrsagent, make minutes 15:47:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html ChrisL 15:48:07 Present: Andrew, Erik, Doug, Anthony, Tony, Chris 15:48:19 Chair: Andrew, Erik 15:48:22 rrsagent, make minutes 15:48:22 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html ChrisL 15:50:18 status: 35 new tests approved 15:52:10 15 tests left in the queue to be approved 17:42:25 zlatinski has joined #svg 18:00:24 MikeSmith has joined #svg 19:02:26 heycam 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