IRC log of svg on 2008-05-21

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG

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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot-ng

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Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference

11:38:35 [trackbot-ng]

Date: 21 May 2008

11:38:40 [ed]

Topic: 1.2 testsuite review

11:38:46 [ed]

Scribe: Erik

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scribeNick: ed

11:39:07 [ed]

Agenda: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Tiny_12#Test_Suite

11:40:03 [aemmons]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-02-t.svg

11:42:12 [ed]

ED: there's a typo: "the green test is rendered" should be "the green text is rendered"

11:42:22 [ed]

AE: yes

11:43:01 [ed]

AE: all ok with this test?

11:43:15 [ed]

(WG) yes, this test is approved

11:49:28 [ed]

DS: we need a better process for doing the testsuite

11:49:42 [ed]

...we make a tool to create and approve tests, a webapp

11:50:25 [ed]

...with three fields, the filename, a textbox for the code, and a textbox for the pass criteria and a textbox for description

11:51:09 [ed]

...and a dropdown for which part of which spec it's testing. then you hit a button and it creates the test from the template

11:51:24 [ed]

...and the testcreator initials

11:52:00 [ed]

...and it also generates a reference image automatically, or you can upload a patchfile, once a test is created you can click on it to view it

11:52:23 [ed]

...when you're viewing it you can mark it as reviewed, approved or add comments

11:53:00 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-01-t.svg

11:54:48 [ed]

AE: approved?

11:54:54 [ed]

(WG): yes

11:55:11 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-03-t.svg

11:55:18 [ed]

(WG) also approved

11:56:01 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-event-209-t.svg

11:56:49 [ed]

AG: should be using d:operatorScript

11:57:51 [ed]

ED: well, should work there, will the testsuite generation scripts have a problem you mean?

11:58:01 [ed]

AG: not sure

11:58:14 [ed]

...i'll change the test description to match the other tests

11:59:00 [ed]

AE: bitflash fails this, but I approve of this test

11:59:16 [ed]

...so we need to verify the reference image once it's created

11:59:26 [ed]

ED: batik should pass this one

11:59:50 [ed]

(WG) test approved

12:02:17 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-203-t.svg

12:03:50 [ed]

(WG) test approved

12:05:19 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg

12:08:33 [ed]

ED: my last comment about getBBox and getScreenCTM should be made into a new test

12:08:50 [ed]

AG: some id:s are not xml:id, willfix that

12:10:32 [ed]

ED: Opera has some more extensive tests, that check bboxes on elements inside <defs>, with display:none etc...will look into donating those

12:14:49 [ed]

(WG) test approved

12:15:20 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-203-t.svg

12:16:57 [ed]

ED: the text has been made green, but the circles are green which makes the text impossible to read when it overlaps

12:17:09 [ed]

AE: ok, will make circles yellow

12:18:49 [ed]

AG: some id:s are not xml:ids

12:19:19 [ed]

AE: ok, will fix that too

12:21:32 [ed]

ED: the numbers go off the screen there

12:27:54 [ed]

(WG) ok, with all changes the test is approved

12:28:57 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg

12:29:56 [ed]

AG: some id:s are not xml:ids

12:32:19 [ed]

CL: this should use an epsilon comparison

12:33:35 [ed]

TZ: ok, will modify the test to do that

12:33:45 [ed]

...and the id:s

12:34:04 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-237-t.svg

12:34:20 [ed]

ED: i get overlapping text

12:34:51 [ed]

AE: ok there are many subtests, and if you fail then it may overflow

12:35:00 [ed]

...but if it passes everything is visible

12:35:33 [ed]

AG: using id:s not xml:ids

12:37:57 [ed]

ED: DOMException.name and .message are not in tiny I think

12:40:23 [ed]

CL: make the animated line invisible

12:40:57 [ed]

(WG) test approved

12:41:58 [ed]

ACTION: doug to write an automated test creation and editing framework

12:41:58 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-2025 - Write an automated test creation and editing framework [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-28].

12:42:18 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-218-t.svg

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ED: if you run the test locally this might give a security exception since it's accessing another domain

12:44:59 [ed]

CL: yes, there should be a comment saying that you should run the servlet locally in these cases

12:46:52 [ed]

...should have a new cvs directory for the servlet

12:47:18 [ed]

ED: doesn't catch exceptions

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(WG) test approved

12:47:57 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgrect-201-t.svg

12:48:57 [ed]

AE: need epsilon comparisons

12:53:54 [ed]

ED: it does setFloatTrait("x", 25) on a text element, is that allowed since it can be a list of values?

12:57:10 [ed]

ACTION: AE to clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed

12:57:10 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-2026 - Clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-05-28].

13:02:29 [ed]

ACTION: AE to calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter

13:02:29 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-2027 - Calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-05-28].

13:04:19 [ed]

(WG) test approved

13:04:58 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/styling-inherit-01-t.svg

13:06:12 [ed]

ED: doesn't have clear pass criteria

13:11:51 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/spec/mobile/1.2/1.2NG/publish/styling.html#PropertyInheritance

13:11:58 [ed]

it's 6.7 not 6.15

13:12:04 [ed]

6.7 Property inheritance and computation

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(WG) test approved

13:28:05 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg

13:30:12 [ed]

not approved yet, has issues in the resource ball.svg

13:30:31 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/types-basic-202-t.svg

13:31:09 [aemmons]

types-basicDOM-02-t.svg

13:31:44 [ed]

ED: would like the filename to be all lowercase

13:32:07 [ed]

AG: the operatorscript needs to be changed

13:33:59 [ed]

AE: ok, making those fixes now

13:38:18 [ed]

renamed to http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-204-t.svg

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(WG) test approved

13:40:57 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg

13:45:18 [ed]

(WG) test approved

13:46:03 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-226-t.svg

13:47:54 [ed]

ED: the test assumes getCurrentTime has some epsilon, but I'm not sure the spec says anything about the required resolution

13:53:23 [ed]

AE: ok, now checking only the lower bound

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(WG) approved

13:55:31 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-202-t.svg

13:56:46 [ed]

(WG) approved

13:58:42 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg

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http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-236-t.svg

14:05:58 [ed]

(WG) approve svgpoint-201

14:07:56 [ed]

ED: there's no e.name or e.message

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(WG) approved

14:11:54 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg

14:13:29 [ChrisL]

udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg needs text changed to red/green

14:14:25 [ed]

ok, we'll do later edits to this file

14:14:35 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/script-element-203-t.svg

14:16:27 [ed]

(WG) test approved

14:17:06 [ed]

AE: we need a patchfile for the reference for this one

14:17:32 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-203-t.svg

14:19:36 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:20:49 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a03-t.svg

14:21:07 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a-03-t.svg

14:24:28 [ed]

ED: add explicit pass criteria

14:24:37 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:25:26 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-206-t.svg

14:26:09 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-204-t.svg

14:29:46 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:30:01 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/extend-namespace-02-t.svg

14:32:39 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:34:23 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-216-t.svg

14:36:25 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:36:39 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-232-t.svg

14:37:32 [ed]

AE: uses e.name, e.message

14:38:55 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:39:35 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-230-t.svg

14:40:24 [ed]

AE: e.name again

14:42:26 [ed]

ED: I'd like some time to look at this test

14:42:43 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/media-audio-215-t.svg

14:51:35 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:51:51 [ed]

AE: we need to find another soundclip though

14:52:05 [ed]

...and we need to generate a reference image for this

14:52:13 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg

14:53:31 [ed]

postponed

14:53:41 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg

14:54:00 [ed]

AG: same problems as previous one, I'll fix it

14:54:08 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-203-t.svg

14:55:47 [ed]

ED: local -> external domain security thing again

14:57:59 [ed]

(WG) approved

14:59:37 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg

15:03:49 [shepazu]

here is the php script for the server access tests: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/resources/http_php.txt

15:08:42 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:09:44 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg

15:10:47 [ed]

ED: can fail a subtest but still show "passed"

15:16:40 [ed]

AG: there's no frame around the test

15:18:00 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:18:50 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg

15:20:38 [ed]

postponed again

15:20:45 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg

15:23:20 [ed]

ED: unclear pass criteria

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postponed

15:23:32 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-202-t.svg

15:23:46 [ed]

AG: using old template, needs update

15:24:20 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-09-t.svg

15:26:16 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:28:04 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg

15:30:17 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:31:46 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-225-t.svg

15:32:34 [ed]

CL: has red-green dots, but not red-green text

15:33:02 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:33:45 [ed]

we need to generate the reference for this

15:34:14 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-201-t.svg

15:35:32 [ed]

ACTION: CL to update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to the messages

15:35:32 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-2028 - Update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to the messages [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-05-28].

15:35:55 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg

15:36:11 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-234-t.svg

15:36:46 [ed]

AE: e.name, e.message

15:37:09 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:39:07 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-231-t.svg

15:39:19 [ChrisL]

rrsagent, here

15:39:19 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-irc#T15-39-19

15:40:24 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:41:33 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg

15:43:50 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:43:59 [ed]

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgcolor-201-t.svg

15:45:06 [ed]

(WG) approved

15:45:40 [ed]

AG: needs to have xml:ids

15:46:55 [ChrisL]

AE fixes

15:47:12 [ChrisL]

rrsagent, make minutes

15:47:12 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html ChrisL

15:47:34 [ChrisL]

rrsagent, make logs public

15:47:38 [ChrisL]

rrsagent, make minutes

15:47:38 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html ChrisL

15:48:07 [ChrisL]

Present: Andrew, Erik, Doug, Anthony, Tony, Chris

15:48:19 [ChrisL]

Chair: Andrew, Erik

15:48:22 [ChrisL]

rrsagent, make minutes

15:48:22 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html ChrisL

15:50:18 [ed]

status: 35 new tests approved

15:52:10 [ed]

15 tests left in the queue to be approved

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