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15:35:07 <RolandMerrick> RolandMerrick has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008May/0003.html
15:35:52 <RolandMerrick> Meeting: SOAP-JMS WG teleconference
15:36:01 <RolandMerrick> Chair: Roland
15:36:20 <RolandMerrick> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008May/0003.html
15:36:43 <RolandMerrick> Regrets: Mark, Yves, Peter (Partial)
15:37:10 <RolandMerrick> rrsagent, make minutes
15:37:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html RolandMerrick
15:37:43 <RolandMerrick> rrsagent, make log public
15:38:01 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes
15:38:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
15:41:14 <Roland> Zakim, list
15:41:14 <Zakim> I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes
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15:45:52 <alewis> zakim, list
15:45:52 <Zakim> I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes
15:46:40 <alewis> zakim, what time is it?
15:46:40 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, alewis.
15:46:53 <Roland> zakim, list
15:46:53 <Zakim> I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes
15:47:22 <alewis> silly creature apparently isn't aware of ntp ....
15:49:08 <Roland> Zakim, this will be WS_SOAP-JM
15:49:08 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Roland
15:49:29 <alewis> zakim, list
15:49:29 <Zakim> I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes
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16:02:29 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
16:07:12 <Zakim> +GlenD
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16:12:10 <eric> Look at that!
16:12:21 <eric> Eric as scribe.
16:12:21 <Roland> Scribe: eric
16:12:56 <eric> Need volunteers for editors.
16:15:00 <eric> Roland: Wants to see a draft out from the W3C quickly - two or three items.
16:15:18 <eric> Roland: Need to change the namespace.
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16:16:46 <eric> Roland: 3rd item - one namespace or two?  People wanting to use the properties in WSDL for other purposes than just SOAP - thus want to separate properties from SOAP.
16:17:23 <eric> Roland: continuing the IRI/URI effort - on the third draft.  Some small changes required in the SOAP/JMS specification to match the latest draft.
16:17:44 <eric> ... (that is, matching the latest URI scheme draft at the IETF)
16:18:56 <eric> glen: with so few implementations of the preceding specification, changing the namespace should be a no-brainer.
16:19:39 <alewis> +1 to changes as soon as possible.
16:19:53 <eric> phil: we should change the namespace sooner, and people are probably expecting the namespace to change with the W3C.
16:20:02 <gdaniels> +1
16:20:07 <bhakti> +1
16:20:11 <PhilAdams> +1
16:20:14 <eric> +1
16:20:18 <Derek> +1
16:21:49 <eric> eric: Two namespace - understand the idea, but the implementation might be spurious.
16:22:10 <eric> roland: tend to agree with Eric.  Looks odd when people using it for other purposes - but there are already too many namespaces in the world.
16:23:51 <eric> Roland: are there significant changes in the URI spec that will affect SOAP/JMS binding?
16:23:58 <eric> eric: Not many that I'm aware of.
16:24:19 <eric> glen: pulling together interoperability plans, test plans.
16:24:53 <eric> roland: yes - talked about it last week.  Test cases, interoperability.  Talk about editors - also need editor for writing test plans, test reports, development of test cases.
16:26:20 <eric> bhakti: also willing to help with editing.
16:27:27 <eric> Roland: Specification has been moved to the W3C CVS repository.
16:28:22 <Zakim> -peaston
16:28:30 <eric> alewis: IETF submission still on the Subversion server.
16:29:04 <eric> ACTION: Roland to send information to bhakti about using CVS
16:29:04 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-4 - Send information to bhakti about using CVS [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-05-20].
16:29:28 <eric> (got pointers from Amy)
16:30:48 <eric> Roland: Need to get started on test plans and interoperability.  What can we do about test cases.
16:33:16 <eric> eric: Go through and enumerate the RFC 2119 criteria, identify whether items are testable, and for those that aren't, look at the spec, for those that are, identify the test.
16:33:42 <eric> roland: identify what makes sense as conformance statements.
16:34:01 <eric> ... look for these items as you're refamiliarizing yourself with the spec.
16:35:13 <eric> roland: anyone else with issues?
16:35:27 <Zakim> -bhakti
16:35:29 <Zakim> -gdaniels
16:35:30 <Zakim> -eric
16:35:31 <eric> roland: reconvene next week.
16:35:34 <Zakim> -Derek
16:35:35 <Zakim> -PhilAdams
16:35:36 <Zakim> -alewis
16:35:50 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes
16:35:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
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17:20:33 <Roland> Zakim, please part
17:20:33 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +0138687aaaa, +1.919.742.aabb, alewis, Roland, peaston, +1.708.246.aacc, +1.408.431.aadd, derek?, +1.781.999.aaee, bhakti, PhilAdams,
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17:20:51 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes
17:20:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
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17:25:54 <Roland> rrsagent, please part
17:25:54 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-actions.rdf :
17:25:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Roland to send information to bhakti about using CVS [1]
17:25:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-irc#T16-29-04