IRC log of soap-jms on 2008-05-13

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15:35:07 [RolandMerrick]

RolandMerrick has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008May/0003.html

15:35:52 [RolandMerrick]

Meeting: SOAP-JMS WG teleconference

15:36:01 [RolandMerrick]

Chair: Roland

15:36:20 [RolandMerrick]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008May/0003.html

15:36:43 [RolandMerrick]

Regrets: Mark, Yves, Peter (Partial)

15:37:10 [RolandMerrick]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html RolandMerrick

15:37:43 [RolandMerrick]

rrsagent, make log public

15:38:01 [Roland]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland

15:41:14 [Roland]

Zakim, list

15:41:14 [Zakim]

I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes

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15:45:52 [alewis]

zakim, list

15:45:52 [Zakim]

I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes

15:46:40 [alewis]

zakim, what time is it?

15:46:40 [Zakim]

I don't understand your question, alewis.

15:46:53 [Roland]

zakim, list

15:46:53 [Zakim]

I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes

15:47:22 [alewis]

silly creature apparently isn't aware of ntp ....

15:49:08 [Roland]

Zakim, this will be WS_SOAP-JM

15:49:08 [Zakim]

I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Roland

15:49:29 [alewis]

zakim, list

15:49:29 [Zakim]

I see XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes

15:56:42 [Zakim]

+ +1.919.742.aabb

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+[IBM]

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+ +1.708.246.aacc

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+ +1.408.431.aadd

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+ +1.781.999.aaee

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16:02:29 [Roland]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland

16:07:12 [Zakim]

+GlenD

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+ +1.650.454.aaff

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- +1.650.454.aaff

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+ +1.650.454.aagg

16:12:00 [eric]

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16:12:10 [eric]

Look at that!

16:12:21 [eric]

Eric as scribe.

16:12:21 [Roland]

Scribe: eric

16:12:56 [eric]

Need volunteers for editors.

16:15:00 [eric]

Roland: Wants to see a draft out from the W3C quickly - two or three items.

16:15:18 [eric]

Roland: Need to change the namespace.

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Roland: 3rd item - one namespace or two? People wanting to use the properties in WSDL for other purposes than just SOAP - thus want to separate properties from SOAP.

16:17:23 [eric]

Roland: continuing the IRI/URI effort - on the third draft. Some small changes required in the SOAP/JMS specification to match the latest draft.

16:17:44 [eric]

... (that is, matching the latest URI scheme draft at the IETF)

16:18:56 [eric]

glen: with so few implementations of the preceding specification, changing the namespace should be a no-brainer.

16:19:39 [alewis]

+1 to changes as soon as possible.

16:19:53 [eric]

phil: we should change the namespace sooner, and people are probably expecting the namespace to change with the W3C.

16:20:02 [gdaniels]

+1

16:20:07 [bhakti]

+1

16:20:11 [PhilAdams]

+1

16:20:14 [eric]

+1

16:20:18 [Derek]

+1

16:21:49 [eric]

eric: Two namespace - understand the idea, but the implementation might be spurious.

16:22:10 [eric]

roland: tend to agree with Eric. Looks odd when people using it for other purposes - but there are already too many namespaces in the world.

16:23:51 [eric]

Roland: are there significant changes in the URI spec that will affect SOAP/JMS binding?

16:23:58 [eric]

eric: Not many that I'm aware of.

16:24:19 [eric]

glen: pulling together interoperability plans, test plans.

16:24:53 [eric]

roland: yes - talked about it last week. Test cases, interoperability. Talk about editors - also need editor for writing test plans, test reports, development of test cases.

16:26:20 [eric]

bhakti: also willing to help with editing.

16:27:27 [eric]

Roland: Specification has been moved to the W3C CVS repository.

16:28:22 [Zakim]

-peaston

16:28:30 [eric]

alewis: IETF submission still on the Subversion server.

16:29:04 [eric]

ACTION: Roland to send information to bhakti about using CVS

16:29:04 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-4 - Send information to bhakti about using CVS [on Roland Merrick - due 2008-05-20].

16:29:28 [eric]

(got pointers from Amy)

16:30:48 [eric]

Roland: Need to get started on test plans and interoperability. What can we do about test cases.

16:33:16 [eric]

eric: Go through and enumerate the RFC 2119 criteria, identify whether items are testable, and for those that aren't, look at the spec, for those that are, identify the test.

16:33:42 [eric]

roland: identify what makes sense as conformance statements.

16:34:01 [eric]

... look for these items as you're refamiliarizing yourself with the spec.

16:35:13 [eric]

roland: anyone else with issues?

16:35:27 [Zakim]

-bhakti

16:35:29 [Zakim]

-gdaniels

16:35:30 [Zakim]

-eric

16:35:31 [eric]

roland: reconvene next week.

16:35:34 [Zakim]

-Derek

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-PhilAdams

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-alewis

16:35:50 [Roland]

rrsagent, make minutes

16:35:50 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland

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17:20:33 [Roland]

Zakim, please part

17:20:33 [Zakim]

leaving. As of this point the attendees were +0138687aaaa, +1.919.742.aabb, alewis, Roland, peaston, +1.708.246.aacc, +1.408.431.aadd, derek?, +1.781.999.aaee, bhakti, PhilAdams,

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... +1.650.454.aaff, Derek, +1.650.454.aagg, eric, gdaniels

17:20:51 [Roland]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland

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17:25:54 [Roland]

rrsagent, please part

17:25:54 [RRSAgent]

I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-soap-jms-actions.rdf :

17:25:54 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Roland to send information to bhakti about using CVS [1]

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