14:50:53 RRSAgent has joined #rdfa 14:50:53 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc 14:51:22 Zakim has joined #rdfa 14:53:14 mhausenblas has joined #rdfa 14:53:31 zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa) 14:53:31 ok, msporny; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes 14:53:45 Scribe: Manu Sporny 14:53:52 ScribeNick: msporny 14:54:17 Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML Task Force 14:54:52 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008May/0029.html 14:55:40 -> http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-05-01 14:55:49 Chair: Ben Adida 14:56:00 :) 14:56:15 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:56:15 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas 14:56:30 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:57:02 hmm, so what's this whole insufficient access privileges thing? 14:57:33 me nevermind, not getting the error now 15:00:38 Present: Manu Sporny, Michael Hausenblas 15:00:50 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:00:50 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html msporny 15:02:36 SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started 15:02:40 +??P37 15:02:45 zakim, I am ??P37 15:02:45 +msporny; got it 15:02:56 +ShaneM 15:02:57 -ShaneM 15:02:58 +ShaneM 15:03:07 +Michael_Hausenblas 15:04:42 benadida has joined #rdfa 15:05:15 +Ben_Adida 15:06:53 Topic: Action Items 15:08:44 benadida: Good progress on clean room implementation... 15:09:07 benadida: getting ready to test it against test harness. 15:09:35 benadida: It's done in Ruby 15:10:07 Michael: It might be worth approaching the Ruby community to get that integrated. 15:10:29 zakim, benadida is Ben 15:10:29 +Ben; got it 15:11:09 benadida: The reason I did it in Ruby is to get it integrated into HTML5 library 15:11:50 ACTION: Ben draft a non-normative paragraph on RDFa fragments for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] 15:11:58 -- DONE 15:12:08 ACTION: Ben respond to the commenters on issue 115 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] 15:12:13 -- DONE 15:12:23 ACTION: Ben send announcement of @instanceof change and diffs to processing rules [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action16] 15:12:25 -- DONE 15:12:33 ACTION: Shane update editors' draft with the resolution to issue 115 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action14] 15:12:37 -- DONE 15:12:44 ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] 15:12:48 -- CONTINUES 15:12:58 ACTION: Ben to respond to issue 87 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] 15:13:09 -- CONTINUES 15:13:18 ACTION: Manu to enable EARL output in RDFa Test Harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] 15:14:40 -- DONE 15:14:49 ACTION: Mark to move _:a bnode notation to normative section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action05] 15:14:51 -- CONTINUES 15:15:23 ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] 15:15:26 -- CONTINUES 15:16:53 ACTION: Reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get RDFa integrated into Slashdot. 15:17:29 Topic: Test Cases 15:18:11 Michael: Note that there are still several -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Mar/0352.html TC on hold 15:18:27 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:18:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas 15:18:37 Manu: We need two more test cases. 15:18:50 Manu: SPARQL engines still mess up on XML Literal tests. 15:18:56 benadida: It would be nice if we had one SPARQL engine that works. 15:19:15 Manu: We might want to hard code the test result checks to check for explicit checks. 15:19:59 benadida: We might want to see if there is a common canonicalization that most of the SPARQL engines use. 15:20:09 Michael: There are several that are still on hold, we should remedy that. 15:20:25 benadida: If Manu can go through on hold ones this week, we can review via e-mail. 15:21:13 ACTION: Manu to review current on hold test cases and e-mail list on what we should do with them. 15:21:35 benadida: If we can get it done before Monday, all the better. 15:22:01 benadida: Test harness for XML Literals would be the last thing we fix at this point. 15:23:41 benadida: What other tests do we need? 15:23:54 Manu: One to make sure that "useless triples" are preserved. 15:24:44 Michael: The other one is #104, which tests Fabien's rdf:value. 15:25:58 ACTION: Michael to determine which useless-triples test cases to remove and which to add. 15:29:16 Michael: Is the structure of the syntax document stable now? Can I refer to them? 15:29:22 benadida: Yes, I think that's true. 15:29:39 benadida: How do we stand with regards to Elias' test harness? 15:29:48 Michael: Everything works except for EARL generation. 15:29:57 Manu: We'll get that sorted out in the next couple of days. 15:30:27 ShaneM: Regarding the syntax document - if there isn't a named identifier, don't refer to it. Tell me and I'll make a named identifier. 15:30:35 15:30:42 test:specificationReference "4.2.1". 15:31:59 ShaneM: We should make meaningful fragment identifiers. 15:32:02 benadida: Sounds good. 15:32:05 Michael: Yep. 15:32:10 Topic: Issues 15:32:25 benadida: We need to figure out how to address the rest of these. 15:32:56 benadida: We might want to talk about it on the call, or we might want me to categorize it more. 15:33:02 Michael: Could we have a quick overview? 15:33:32 issues open --> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/2 15:34:25 ACTION: Manu to e-mail final Christian Hoertnagl response. 15:37:43 FYI - CURIEs have gone to last call: http://www.w3.org/TR/curie/ 15:40:48 Topic: Schedule 15:41:07 benadida: Between now and July 1, what is everybody's schedule? 15:41:31 I am at XHTML F2F 17-19 June 15:41:39 Manu: Should be around. 15:41:49 ShaneM: at XHTML F2F 17-19 June. 15:41:57 benadida: 25th June to 1st July 15:42:01 Michael: From 31 May to 7 June at ESWC (not available) 15:42:08 benadida: Looks like everybody is around through mid June. 15:42:19 benadida: I'd like to see all of the issues closed by end of May. 15:42:35 ShaneM: Mark is on travel for most of May. 15:42:50 Micheal: not available from From 31 May to 7 June at ESWC 15:43:14 s/Micheal/Michael 15:43:46 benadida: Okay, I'll start assigning issues to own. 15:44:01 ShaneM: Ivan sent in an issue about "role", I'll reply to that. 15:44:55 benadida: Alright, any other comments? 15:44:55 -ShaneM 15:45:00 -Ben 15:45:01 -Michael_Hausenblas 15:45:19 [adjourned] 15:45:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:45:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html msporny 15:46:02 -msporny 15:46:03 SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended 15:46:04 Attendees were msporny, ShaneM, Michael_Hausenblas, Ben_Adida, Ben 15:46:11 Zakim, bye 15:46:11 Zakim has left #rdfa 15:46:16 rrsagent, bye 15:46:16 I see 13 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-actions.rdf : 15:46:16 ACTION: Ben draft a non-normative paragraph on RDFa fragments for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] [1] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-11-50 15:46:16 ACTION: Ben respond to the commenters on issue 115 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [2] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-12-08 15:46:16 ACTION: Ben send announcement of @instanceof change and diffs to processing rules [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action16] [3] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-12-23 15:46:16 ACTION: Shane update editors' draft with the resolution to issue 115 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/01-rdfa-minutes.html#action14] [4] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-12-33 15:46:16 ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [5] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-12-44 15:46:16 ACTION: Ben to respond to issue 87 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [6] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-12-58 15:46:16 ACTION: Manu to enable EARL output in RDFa Test Harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] [7] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-13-18 15:46:16 ACTION: Mark to move _:a bnode notation to normative section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action05] [8] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-14-49 15:46:16 ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [9] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-15-23 15:46:16 ACTION: Reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get RDFa integrated into Slashdot. [10] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-16-53 15:46:16 ACTION: Manu to review current on hold test cases and e-mail list on what we should do with them. [11] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-21-13 15:46:16 ACTION: Michael to determine which useless-triples test cases to remove and which to add. [12] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-25-58 15:46:16 ACTION: Manu to e-mail final Christian Hoertnagl response. [13] 15:46:16 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-irc#T15-34-25