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13:53:19 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS IG
13:53:21 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
13:53:25 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
13:53:31 <YvesS> Hi Felix. did you see my last email?
13:53:50 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Apr/0002.html
13:54:47 <YvesS> I guess the web-interface is member only, but the channels are accessible
13:54:58 <YvesS> (I think)
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13:55:50 <YvesS> I cannot find any login/password settings on the config of my IRC tool... but I may miss something. It has been set several years ago...
13:56:24 <fsasaki> ok
13:57:40 <YvesS> good! :) we'll let everybody know for next time.
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13:58:18 <YvesS> no problem. That was my impression too.
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14:00:58 <najib> Hi everybody
14:02:36 <fsasaki> topic: introduction
14:02:42 <fsasaki> Yves: welcome to all!
14:02:43 <Zakim> + +1.801.682.aabb
14:02:50 <fsasaki> .. welcome to first ITS IG call
14:04:01 <fsasaki> Syd Bauman: working on womens writers project
14:04:07 <fsasaki> .. on integrating ITS in TEI
14:04:22 <fsasaki> Rudolpho: working on translation tools
14:04:41 <fsasaki> asgeirf from Redhat, looking into using ITS for our translation
14:04:53 <fsasaki> Andrew: State univ. of Victoria
14:05:00 <fsasaki> .. interested in use of ITS for various language
14:05:13 <fsasaki> Jim: work at JLS church
14:05:32 <fsasaki> .. started at large single source project, interested in use of ITS for localization purposes
14:06:09 <fsasaki> camille: own company specialized on technical documentations, mainly using docbook
14:06:12 <fsasaki> .. interested in using ITS
14:06:57 <fsasaki> topic: agenda review
14:07:31 <najib> q+ I introduce myself?
14:07:50 <fsasaki> Yves goes through http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Apr/0002.html and the charter http://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/ITSIGCharter.html
14:08:15 <najib> OK
14:09:34 <fsasaki> Camille: is ITS used already on many projects?
14:09:47 <fsasaki> Yves: is used in production at least in my company, for translating XML documents
14:10:03 <fsasaki> .. also in other commercial projects, for example XML-INTL has a product which uses ITS
14:10:13 <fsasaki> .. some people are developing ITS processors as well
14:10:29 <fsasaki> .. having whose things have in place takes a long time
14:10:45 <fsasaki> Camille: so one goal of this IG is to extend the group of ITS users?
14:11:02 <fsasaki> Yves: yes
14:11:02 <najib> My name is Najib Tounsi
14:11:04 <najib> I work as a professor for an Engineering School at the University in Rabat.
14:11:05 <najib> And I run the W3C Office in Morocco
14:11:07 <najib> Interested in promoting ITS...
14:11:08 <najib> That's all, Thanks.
14:11:29 <fsasaki> topic: IG communication
14:11:36 <fsasaki> Yves: some of us are on IRC
14:12:06 <najib> Could hardly make the call. 
14:12:08 <fsasaki> .. we figured out that everybody can be on our IRC channel #i18nits , so next time everybody can be on the channel, that communication gets easeir
14:12:22 <fsasaki> Syd: one of the goals would also be to work on best practices?
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14:12:36 <fsasaki> Yves: on best practice about how to use ITS? Yves
14:12:50 <fsasaki> .. e.g. what is the best way to use XPath expressions in a certain context, yes
14:13:42 <najib> q+
14:14:47 <fsasaki> topic: interest in specific implementations?
14:14:47 <fsasaki> Yves: who is interested in / working on specific implementations?
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14:15:41 <fsasaki> interested, not implementation
14:16:09 <fsasaki> Yves: we want to start some kind of "reference implementation" so that people could use that
14:16:11 <fsasaki> .. your contribution would be very welcome
14:16:30 <fsasaki> Yves: about writing ITS, have you generated ITS rules already?
14:16:36 <fsasaki> Syd: I haven't, but interested in that
14:17:00 <fsasaki> Camille: we are starting a project about XML content management system
14:17:12 <fsasaki> .. might be interested in ITS implementation
14:17:24 <fsasaki> Yves: sounds very interesting
14:17:48 <fsasaki> topic: contribution / collaboration
14:18:00 <fsasaki> Yves: thought of developing a wiki for contributions
14:21:59 <fsasaki> Felix describes possibility of publishing Interest Group , and that examples may include ITS rules , ITS local markup and vocabularies which use ITS 
14:22:33 <fsasaki> some attendant would be interested in a generic technique about how to apply ITS local markup to a new or given format
14:22:36 <fsasaki> topic: atom discussion
14:22:48 <fsasaki> Yves introduces the thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Apr/0003.html
14:24:28 <fsasaki> Yves: some aspects in this thread go a bit beyond ITS
14:24:53 <fsasaki> .. here we basically supply a mechanism which probably the i18n core WG will discuss
14:25:20 <fsasaki> Camille: maybe they could use a specific attribute with a different namespace
14:25:25 <fsasaki> .. that would solve both problems
14:25:37 <fsasaki> Yves: they probably need to revisit their assumptions
14:25:56 <fsasaki> .. not sure they they need an empty value and they they don't need "lro" and "rlo"
14:28:28 <fsasaki> Felix: this document is in IETF LC, we need to send feedback to IETF back. Will bring that to i18n core and back to IETF back
14:28:34 <fsasaki> action: Felix will bring that to i18n core and back to IETF back
14:28:34 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-65 - Will bring that to i18n core and back to IETF back [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-04-24].
14:28:38 <fsasaki> topic: SVG Tiny
14:31:05 <fsasaki> Felix gives background on SVG Tiny
14:31:35 <fsasaki> action: Felix to work on usage of ITS in SVG Tiny 
14:31:35 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-66 - Work on usage of ITS in SVG Tiny  [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-04-24].
14:31:47 <fsasaki> topic: reviews of formats
14:32:37 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call
14:34:25 <fsasaki> Felix: we are going through this list regularly, to see if there are needs for reviews
14:35:08 <fsasaki> Yves: looking for volunteers to go through "The XMLHttpRequest Object" and see if there is a need for ITS in it
14:35:22 <fsasaki> Yves: will do that to give you an idea of how we make such reviews
14:35:36 <fsasaki> action: Yves to look at "The XMLHttpRequest Object" and see if there is a need for ITS in it
14:35:36 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-67 - Look at \"The XMLHttpRequest Object\" and see if there is a need for ITS in it [on Yves Savourel - due 2008-04-24].
14:35:56 <fsasaki> topic: housekeeping
14:36:34 <fsasaki> Yves: IRC is available for everybody , I'll send some explanation
14:36:45 <fsasaki> .. what is the best time / day for calls?
14:37:45 <fsasaki> Yves: is current call time OK?
14:37:50 <Zakim> -Felix
14:38:04 <najib> OK
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14:38:56 <fsasaki> Yves: we will keep current time
14:39:06 <najib> q+
14:39:11 <fsasaki> Yves: about the day every week - is Thursday fine for everybody
14:39:12 <najib> How about a "tutorial / Getting started" on ITS?
14:39:23 <Zakim> -??P10
14:39:56 <fsasaki> some problems on Thursday, Monday
14:40:05 <fsasaki> problems on Tuesday
14:40:37 <fsasaki> Wednesday taken by i18n core WG
14:41:00 <fsasaki> Friday at night bad for work
14:41:22 <fsasaki> maybe Tuesday, with coordination with other groups
14:41:35 <fsasaki> Yves: we will see if Tuesday will work
14:42:03 <fsasaki> action: Yves to send a mail about call times / days
14:42:03 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-68 - Send a mail about call times / days [on Yves Savourel - due 2008-04-24].
14:42:27 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
14:43:01 <fsasaki> Yves: next call in about a month
14:43:12 <fsasaki> .. don't hesitate to ask questions and other things
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14:43:30 <Zakim> -Andrew
14:43:31 <Zakim> -Camille
14:43:32 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
14:43:33 <fsasaki> .. thanks a lot for participation again! Talk to you again in a month
14:43:34 <Zakim> - +1.801.682.aabb
14:43:35 <Zakim> -Felix
14:43:35 <Zakim> I18N_(ITS IG)10:00AM has ended
14:43:36 <Zakim> Attendees were Felix, Andrew, Yves_Savourel, +1.339.368.aaaa, Camille, +1.801.682.aabb
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14:46:56 <fsasaki> present: Yves, Syd, Rudolpho, Andrew, Najib, Camille, Asgeir, Felix
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