IRC log of wai-wcag on 2008-04-10

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rrsagent, make log world
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+??P2
20:02:11 [rscano]
zakim, +??P2 is Roberto_Scano
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sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'
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+ +1.206.246.aaaa
20:02:32 [MichaelC]
zakim, +1.206 is Chris_Brownrigg
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+Chris_Brownrigg; got it
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zakim, +?P2 is Roberto_Scano
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sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named '+?P2'
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+Don
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+??P5
20:02:52 [Ben]
zakim, ??P5 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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zakim, ??P2 is Roberto_Scano
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+Roberto_Scano; got it
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zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell
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+Ben_Caldwell; got it
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zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
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ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
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+Matt_May
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agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 3 April 2008, Issue 2476
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agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 8 April 2008
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+[IPcaller]
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agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 10 April 2008
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agenda+ Candidate Recommendation Planning Materials
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zakim, [IPcaller is BengtFarre
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+BengtFarre; got it
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+Andi_Snow_Weaver
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scribeOptions: -scribeOnly
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+Sean_Hayes
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meeting: WCAG
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chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008AprJun/0007.html
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regrets: Bruce_Bailey, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cynthia_Shelly, Nikolaos_Floratos
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+Tim_Boland
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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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+??P0
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zakim, ??P0 is Christophe_Strobbe
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+Christophe_Strobbe; got it
20:07:31 [Ben]
RRSAgent, pointer?
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See http://www.w3.org/2008/04/10-wai-wcag-irc#T20-07-31
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+[IPcaller]
20:07:42 [rscano]
http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=pst+files+bigger+than+gb&meta= (for gregg)
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zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero
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+Roberto_Ellero; got it
20:08:12 [David_MacDonald]
Scribe: David_MacDonald
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+??P13
20:08:27 [MichaelC]
zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC]
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zakim, ??P13 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
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+Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
20:10:16 [Ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:10:16 [Zakim]
On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Chris_Brownrigg, Don, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Matt_May, BengtFarre, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland,
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... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Christophe_Strobbe, Roberto_Ellero, Katie_Haritos-Shea
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???
20:10:21 [Zakim]
Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell
20:11:27 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
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agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 3 April 2008, Issue 2476" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:13:30 [David_MacDonald]
Topic:
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Topic: Issue 2476, 2376: Sufficient techniques seems to contradict other areas and principles.
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Resolution: Accepted as amended Issue 2476, 2376
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Topic: Issue 2535: contrast algorithm for 1.4.3: Contrast (Minimum)
20:25:01 [David_MacDonald]
zakim, who's making noise?
20:25:13 [Zakim]
David_MacDonald, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Chris_Brownrigg (23%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (72%)
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-Roberto_Ellero
20:25:33 [Ben]
zakim, mute Chris
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'Chris' is ambiguous, Ben
20:25:41 [Ben]
zakim, mute Chris_Brownrigg
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Chris_Brownrigg should now be muted
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q+
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ack d
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q+
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q-
20:33:10 [David_MacDonald]
i think this is it http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/contrast-analyser.html
20:35:03 [David_MacDonald]
resolution: accept 2535 as amended
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q+
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ack d
20:43:28 [David_MacDonald]
topic: Issue 2527, 2528, 2529, 2530: Navigation
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Resolution: accept Issue 2527, 2528, 2529, 2530: Navigation as amended
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Topic: Issue 2377: Screen width issue with reflow
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resolution: Issue 2377: accept as amended
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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-Roberto_Scano
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21:04:40 [David_MacDonald]
accept: issue 2377 as amended
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topic: Issue 2443: 200% seems too ambitious
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q+
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Q?
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Q+
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ACK L
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ack g
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q?
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q+
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ACK M
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ack l
21:19:51 [David_MacDonald]
Resolution: "Issue 2443: 200% seems too ambitious" accepted as amended
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Issue 2461: Clarification of advisory techniques
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Topic: Issue 2461: Clarification of advisory techniques
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Accept: "Issue 2461: Clarification of advisory techniques" accepted as amended unanimous
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Resolution: Accept: "Issue 2461: Clarification of advisory techniques" accepted as amended unanimous
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topic: Issue 2479: Level A for low or no-contrast content
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Q?
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Resolution: Accept Issue 2479: "Level A for low or no-contrast content" as amended
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Topic: Issue 2593: Need Bullets for Educational Testing Situations
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Resolution: accept Issue 2593: Need Bullets for Educational Testing Situations unanimous
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topic:
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-Cynthia_Shelly
21:33:52 [David_MacDonald]
topic: Updates to Understanding SC 1.4.5 (Images of Text) and G140
21:34:10 [David_MacDonald]
Resolution: accept Updates to Understanding SC 1.4.5 (Images of Text) and G140 as amended
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Topic: Updates to Understanding SC 2.2.2 (Pause, Stop, Hide)
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Resolution: accept Updates to Understanding SC 2.2.2 (Pause, Stop, Hide) as updated
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topic: Updates to Understanding SC 2.2.1 (Timing Adjustable)
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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s/updated/amended
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resolution: accept .2.1 as amended
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s/.2.1/2/2/1
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resolution: accept 2.2.1 as amended
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topic: Issue 2434: Minimum contrast needed for default layout in case 1.4.3 is met via a contrast control
21:43:39 [David_MacDonald]
resolution: accept Issue 2434: Minimum contrast needed for default layout in case 1.4.3 is met via a contrast control - as amended
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topic: New: Failure of 1.3.1 due to inserting non-decorative content via CSS
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Q?
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Resolution: accept failure "Failure of 1.3.1 due to inserting non-decorative content by using :before and :after pseudo-elements and the 'content' property in CSS"
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Resolution: accept Updated intent for 1.2.1 as amended
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Topic: CR Implementor Instructions
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Topic: Criteria for Candidate Recommendation Exit
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ack c
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-Don
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+Don
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ack c
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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nite bengt
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-Tim_Boland
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nite al
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-BengtFarre
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q+
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ack d
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q+
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ack c
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ack l
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ack m
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q+
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ack me
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q+
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ack g
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ack g
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-Chris_Brownrigg
23:13:02 [David_MacDonald]
Resolution: new note for conformance requirement 1 accepted as proposed.
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-Don
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-Matt_May
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-David_MacDonald
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-Sean_Hayes
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-Christophe_Strobbe
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-Cynthia_Shelly
23:15:39 [Ben]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 2 closed
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I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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3. Miscellaneous Proposals for 8 April 2008 [from MichaelC]
23:15:46 [Ben]
zakim close agendum 3
23:15:54 [Ben]
zakim, close agendum 3
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agendum 3, Miscellaneous Proposals for 8 April 2008, closed
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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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4. Miscellaneous Proposals for 10 April 2008 [from MichaelC]
23:16:00 [Ben]
zakim, close agendum 4
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agendum 4, Miscellaneous Proposals for 10 April 2008, closed
23:16:01 [Zakim]
I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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5. Candidate Recommendation Planning Materials [from MichaelC]
23:16:07 [Ben]
zakim, close agendum 5
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agendum 5, Candidate Recommendation Planning Materials, closed
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I see nothing remaining on the agenda
23:16:18 [Ben]
Zakim, bye
23:16:18 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were David_MacDonald, Cooper, +1.206.246.aaaa, Chris_Brownrigg, Don, Roberto_Scano, Ben_Caldwell, Matt_May, [IPcaller], BengtFarre,
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... Andi_Snow_Weaver, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Christophe_Strobbe, Roberto_Ellero, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cynthia_Shelly
23:16:28 [Ben]
RRSAgent, bye
23:16:28 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items