20:00:58 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 20:00:58 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/04/10-wai-wcag-irc 20:01:10 rrsagent, make log world 20:01:42 Ben has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:46 +??P2 20:02:11 zakim, +??P2 is Roberto_Scano 20:02:11 sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2' 20:02:14 + +1.206.246.aaaa 20:02:32 zakim, +1.206 is Chris_Brownrigg 20:02:32 +Chris_Brownrigg; got it 20:02:38 zakim, +?P2 is Roberto_Scano 20:02:38 sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named '+?P2' 20:02:40 +Don 20:02:41 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 20:02:43 +??P5 20:02:52 zakim, ??P5 is Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:02:52 +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it 20:02:54 zakim, ??P2 is Roberto_Scano 20:02:54 +Roberto_Scano; got it 20:02:59 zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell 20:02:59 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 20:03:09 zakim, I am Roberto_Scano 20:03:09 ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 20:03:19 bengt has joined #wai-wcag 20:03:25 +Matt_May 20:03:31 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 20:03:41 agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 3 April 2008, Issue 2476 20:03:49 agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 8 April 2008 20:03:54 +[IPcaller] 20:03:54 agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 10 April 2008 20:04:02 agenda+ Candidate Recommendation Planning Materials 20:04:10 zakim, [IPcaller is BengtFarre 20:04:10 +BengtFarre; got it 20:04:12 +Andi_Snow_Weaver 20:04:18 scribeOptions: -scribeOnly 20:04:21 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 20:04:22 +Sean_Hayes 20:04:23 meeting: WCAG 20:04:27 chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden 20:04:37 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008AprJun/0007.html 20:05:08 regrets: Bruce_Bailey, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cynthia_Shelly, Nikolaos_Floratos 20:05:15 +Tim_Boland 20:05:22 rellero has joined #wai-wcag 20:05:23 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:05:25 Christophe has joined #wai-wcag 20:06:49 +??P0 20:07:10 zakim, ??P0 is Christophe_Strobbe 20:07:10 +Christophe_Strobbe; got it 20:07:31 RRSAgent, pointer? 20:07:31 See http://www.w3.org/2008/04/10-wai-wcag-irc#T20-07-31 20:07:39 +[IPcaller] 20:07:42 http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=pst+files+bigger+than+gb&meta= (for gregg) 20:07:59 zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero 20:07:59 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 20:08:12 Scribe: David_MacDonald 20:08:21 +??P13 20:08:27 zakim, take up item 1 20:08:27 agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC] 20:09:27 zakim, ??P13 is Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:09:27 +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it 20:10:16 zakim, who is on the phone? 20:10:16 On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Chris_Brownrigg, Don, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Matt_May, BengtFarre, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, 20:10:19 ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Christophe_Strobbe, Roberto_Ellero, Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:10:20 ??? 20:10:21 Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell 20:11:27 zakim, next item 20:11:27 agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 3 April 2008, Issue 2476" taken up [from MichaelC] 20:13:30 Topic: 20:13:40 Topic: Issue 2476, 2376: Sufficient techniques seems to contradict other areas and principles. 20:19:06 Resolution: Accepted as amended Issue 2476, 2376 20:19:46 Topic: Issue 2535: contrast algorithm for 1.4.3: Contrast (Minimum) 20:25:01 zakim, who's making noise? 20:25:13 David_MacDonald, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Chris_Brownrigg (23%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (72%) 20:25:16 -Roberto_Ellero 20:25:33 zakim, mute Chris 20:25:33 'Chris' is ambiguous, Ben 20:25:41 zakim, mute Chris_Brownrigg 20:25:41 Chris_Brownrigg should now be muted 20:27:55 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 20:30:51 q+ 20:31:18 ack d 20:31:59 q+ 20:32:31 q- 20:33:10 i think this is it http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/contrast-analyser.html 20:35:03 resolution: accept 2535 as amended 20:36:18 q+ 20:36:34 ack d 20:43:28 topic: Issue 2527, 2528, 2529, 2530: Navigation 20:43:42 Resolution: accept Issue 2527, 2528, 2529, 2530: Navigation as amended 20:44:20 Topic: Issue 2377: Screen width issue with reflow 20:48:18 resolution: Issue 2377: accept as amended 20:48:20 +Cynthia_Shelly 20:53:30 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 20:58:37 -Roberto_Scano 21:03:32 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 21:04:40 accept: issue 2377 as amended 21:05:52 topic: Issue 2443: 200% seems too ambitious 21:12:06 q+ 21:13:31 ack c 21:14:06 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 21:14:11 Q? 21:14:14 Q+ 21:14:48 ACK L 21:16:29 ack g 21:17:45 q? 21:17:45 q+ 21:18:23 Loretta has joined #wai-wcag 21:18:37 ACK M 21:18:45 ack l 21:19:51 Resolution: "Issue 2443: 200% seems too ambitious" accepted as amended 21:20:44 Topic: Issue 2461: Clarification of advisory techniques 21:22:51 Accept: "Issue 2461: Clarification of advisory techniques" accepted as amended unanimous 21:23:09 Resolution: Accept: "Issue 2461: Clarification of advisory techniques" accepted as amended unanimous 21:24:45 Loretta has joined #wai-wcag 21:25:38 topic: Issue 2479: Level A for low or no-contrast content 21:27:56 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 21:28:26 Q? 21:30:27 Resolution: Accept Issue 2479: "Level A for low or no-contrast content" as amended 21:30:58 Topic: Issue 2593: Need Bullets for Educational Testing Situations 21:31:14 Resolution: accept Issue 2593: Need Bullets for Educational Testing Situations unanimous 21:33:16 topic: 21:33:28 -Cynthia_Shelly 21:33:52 topic: Updates to Understanding SC 1.4.5 (Images of Text) and G140 21:34:10 Resolution: accept Updates to Understanding SC 1.4.5 (Images of Text) and G140 as amended 21:34:44 Topic: Updates to Understanding SC 2.2.2 (Pause, Stop, Hide) 21:34:55 Resolution: accept Updates to Understanding SC 2.2.2 (Pause, Stop, Hide) as updated 21:35:56 topic: Updates to Understanding SC 2.2.1 (Timing Adjustable) 21:38:20 +Cynthia_Shelly 21:39:03 s/updated/amended 21:41:38 resolution: accept .2.1 as amended 21:41:52 s/.2.1/2/2/1 21:42:17 resolution: accept 2.2.1 as amended 21:43:21 topic: Issue 2434: Minimum contrast needed for default layout in case 1.4.3 is met via a contrast control 21:43:39 resolution: accept Issue 2434: Minimum contrast needed for default layout in case 1.4.3 is met via a contrast control - as amended 21:44:23 topic: New: Failure of 1.3.1 due to inserting non-decorative content via CSS 21:44:24 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 21:44:27 Q? 21:50:45 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 21:51:38 Resolution: accept failure "Failure of 1.3.1 due to inserting non-decorative content by using :before and :after pseudo-elements and the 'content' property in CSS" 21:52:14 Resolution: accept Updated intent for 1.2.1 as amended 21:57:00 Topic: CR Implementor Instructions 22:00:44 ack c 22:00:48 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 22:09:09 Topic: Criteria for Candidate Recommendation Exit 22:10:00 ack c 22:12:44 -Don 22:13:23 +Don 22:16:11 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 22:21:25 ack c 22:21:34 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 22:24:19 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 22:31:51 nite bengt 22:31:59 -Tim_Boland 22:32:00 nite al 22:32:07 bengt has left #wai-wcag 22:32:11 -BengtFarre 22:33:22 q+ 22:36:02 ack d 22:36:13 q+ 22:36:32 ack c 22:36:35 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 22:40:41 ack l 22:40:44 ack m 22:44:18 q+ 22:47:39 ack me 22:47:52 GreggVan has joined #wai-wcag 22:48:47 q+ 22:49:13 ack g 22:51:13 ack g 23:08:57 -Chris_Brownrigg 23:13:02 Resolution: new note for conformance requirement 1 accepted as proposed. 23:14:34 -Don 23:14:37 -Matt_May 23:14:39 -David_MacDonald 23:14:40 -Sean_Hayes 23:14:44 -Christophe_Strobbe 23:15:11 -Cynthia_Shelly 23:15:39 zakim, close this item 23:15:39 agendum 2 closed 23:15:40 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 23:15:41 3. Miscellaneous Proposals for 8 April 2008 [from MichaelC] 23:15:46 zakim close agendum 3 23:15:54 zakim, close agendum 3 23:15:54 agendum 3, Miscellaneous Proposals for 8 April 2008, closed 23:15:55 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 23:15:56 4. Miscellaneous Proposals for 10 April 2008 [from MichaelC] 23:16:00 zakim, close agendum 4 23:16:00 agendum 4, Miscellaneous Proposals for 10 April 2008, closed 23:16:01 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 23:16:02 5. Candidate Recommendation Planning Materials [from MichaelC] 23:16:07 zakim, close agendum 5 23:16:07 agendum 5, Candidate Recommendation Planning Materials, closed 23:16:08 I see nothing remaining on the agenda 23:16:18 Zakim, bye 23:16:18 leaving. As of this point the attendees were David_MacDonald, Cooper, +1.206.246.aaaa, Chris_Brownrigg, Don, Roberto_Scano, Ben_Caldwell, Matt_May, [IPcaller], BengtFarre, 23:16:18 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 23:16:21 ... Andi_Snow_Weaver, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Christophe_Strobbe, Roberto_Ellero, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Cynthia_Shelly 23:16:28 RRSAgent, bye 23:16:28 I see no action items