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13:55:04 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be BPWG
13:55:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:55:05 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:55:05 <trackbot-ng> Date: 10 April 2008
13:55:11 <francois> Chair: DKA
13:55:30 <francois> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Apr/0032.html
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13:56:10 <DKA> yo yo yo
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13:58:37 <francois> Regrets: jo, PhilA, Shahriar, bryan, AdamC, hgerlach, magnus, rob, murari
13:58:53 <jeffs> Zakim:  mute jeffs
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13:59:41 <DKA> zakim, who's here?
13:59:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see DKA, francois, Sean_Owen, jeffs (muted)
13:59:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see Martin1, Zakim, RRSAgent, yeliz, srowen, DKA, jeffs, jo, matt, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
14:00:16 <DKA> zakim, mute me
14:00:16 <Zakim> DKA should now be muted
14:00:20 <dom> zakim, code?
14:00:20 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
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14:01:16 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
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14:01:35 <jeffs> ahhhhh, spring... to the devil with meetings, let us all go to a park ;^}
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14:03:14 <chaals> Meeting: BPWG
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14:04:09 <Zakim> +nacho; got it
14:04:16 <DKA> zakim, unmute me
14:04:16 <Zakim> sorry, DKA, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:04:18 <chaals> zakim, who is here?
14:04:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see francois, Sean_Owen, jeffs (muted), yeliz (muted), Dom, MartinJ, drooks, chaals (muted), nacho
14:04:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see nacho, abel, achuter, Eman, chaals, drooks, Martin1, Zakim, RRSAgent, yeliz, srowen, DKA, jeffs, jo, matt, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
14:04:43 <dom> DKA, you've dropped from the call
14:04:53 <nacho> zakim, abel is with me
14:04:54 <Zakim> +abel; got it
14:05:09 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
14:05:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see francois, Sean_Owen, jeffs (muted), yeliz (muted), Dom, MartinJ, drooks, chaals (muted), nacho
14:05:15 <Zakim> nacho has nacho, abel
14:05:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see nacho, abel, achuter, Eman, chaals, drooks, Martin1, Zakim, RRSAgent, yeliz, srowen, DKA, jeffs, jo, matt, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
14:05:20 <chaals> Present: FrancoisD, ChaalsMcCN,Nacho,SeanO,JeffS,YelizY,Dom,MartinJ,Abel,DRooks
14:05:46 <Zakim> +DKA
14:05:53 <jo> zakim, code?
14:05:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jo
14:06:10 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Apr/0031.html
14:06:20 <chaals> Topic: Content Transformation TF
14:06:27 <chaals> Topic: Status update
14:06:29 <Zakim> +jo
14:06:40 <dom> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/080409 CT guidelines latest editors version
14:06:41 <chaals> Present+ JoRabin
14:06:45 <francois> Regrets- jo
14:06:56 <chaals> DKA: I think the draft is ready for FPWD...
14:07:16 <jo> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/080410 CT guidelines latest editors version
14:07:20 <chaals> Present+ MrD(theMan)KAppelquist
14:07:51 <Zakim> + +0496151aaaa
14:08:11 <Zakim> +??P39
14:08:20 <achuter> zakim, ??P39 is me
14:08:20 <Zakim> +achuter; got it
14:08:21 <chaals> ack me
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14:08:38 <chaals> Present+ AlanChuter
14:08:44 <dom> zakim, aaaa is Kai
14:08:44 <Zakim> +Kai; got it
14:08:48 <chaals> Present+ KaiDS
14:08:53 <chaals> zakim, mute me
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14:09:23 <Zakim> +Ed_Mitukiewicz
14:09:42 <chaals> FD: CT task force agreed that they wanted to go to FPWD, so we are requesting formal approval from the group. Someone sent some comments this morning but not blocking publication.
14:10:32 <dom> [I applaud the CT task force for the quality of the CT guidelines; really good document for a FPWD IMO]
14:11:23 <edm> Present+ EdM
14:11:29 <chaals> FD: Note that the document doesn't confine itself to mobile specifically. It recognises that Content Transformation happens, and scopes itself to web browsing.
14:11:54 <chaals> ... section 2 describes proxy types based on HTTP RFC - the document is about non-transparent proxies.
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14:12:50 <chaals> ... We talk about different kinds of transformation and what needs to happen.
14:13:03 <achuter> zakim, mute me
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14:13:37 <chaals> ... E.g. compression, markup change, splitting page, etc. 
14:13:42 <Zakim> -nacho
14:13:52 <Zakim> +SeanP
14:13:56 <chaals> ... Requirements section needs to be reworked (at least 3.1 and 3.2 be merged and rewritten).
14:14:12 <Zakim> +??P28
14:14:27 <chaals> ack me
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14:14:40 <abel> zakim, +??P28 is me
14:14:40 <Zakim> sorry, abel, I do not recognize a party named '+??P28'
14:14:46 <dom> zakim, ??28 is abel
14:14:46 <Zakim> sorry, dom, I do not recognize a party named '??28'
14:14:50 <dom> zakim, ??P28 is abel
14:14:50 <Zakim> +abel; got it
14:14:51 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
14:14:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see francois, Sean_Owen, jeffs (muted), yeliz (muted), MartinJ, drooks, chaals (muted), DKA, jo, Kai, achuter (muted), Ed_Mitukiewicz, Dom (muted), SeanP, abel
14:14:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see SeanP, Kai, edm, nacho, abel, achuter, Eman, chaals, drooks, Martin1, Zakim, RRSAgent, yeliz, srowen, DKA, jeffs, jo, matt, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
14:14:59 <chaals> zakim, abel holds nacho
14:14:59 <Zakim> +nacho; got it
14:14:59 <abel> zakim, ??P28 is me
14:15:00 <Zakim> I already had ??P28 as abel, abel
14:15:24 <matt> Present- Matt
14:15:45 <chaals> ... There needs to be: Control by user (view original content, find out what's happening, maybe set preferences as well)
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14:16:22 <chaals> ... Server control - origin servers must be able to enable/disable transformation
14:17:10 <chaals> ... and Other Things outside the scope of this document. E.g. disallow lists managed by CT proxies based on out-of-band communication.
14:18:27 <Zakim> -achuter
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14:20:31 <Zakim> +achuter; got it
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14:21:44 <achuter> zakim, ??P39 is me
14:21:44 <Zakim> +achuter; got it
14:22:19 <achuter> zakim, mute me
14:22:19 <Zakim> achuter was already muted, achuter
14:23:44 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2007OctDec/0102.html Publication moratorium starts next week, last pub request on April 15 (Tuesday)
14:25:17 <chaals> ...(more detailed tour of the document)
14:26:47 <DKA> q?
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14:28:15 <Zakim> sorry, nacho, I do not recognize a party named 'nacho'
14:28:49 <dom> zakim, nacho is with abel
14:28:49 <Zakim> nacho was already listed in abel, dom
14:28:56 <dom> zakim, manrique is with abel
14:28:56 <Zakim> +manrique; got it
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14:36:34 <jo> ACTION: jo to raise an issue on 4.4 of CT draft 1j noting that HTTPS links should only be rewritten with HTTPS links and not HTTP links
14:36:34 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-732 - Raise an issue on 4.4 of CT draft 1j noting that HTTPS links should only be rewritten with HTTPS links and not HTTP links [on Jo Rabin - due 2008-04-17].
14:37:39 <DKA> q?
14:38:40 <chaals> FD: We will be looking for feedback from teh public and the WG at large to improve this...
14:38:45 <jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Publish Draft 1j of the CT Guidelines as a FPWD
14:38:56 <dom> +1
14:38:59 <DKA> +1
14:39:01 <nacho> +1
14:39:02 <jeffs> +1
14:39:14 <srowen> +1
14:39:19 <chaals> DKA: Concerned about all the editorial comments...
14:39:21 <jo> q+ to talk about the editorial comments
14:39:21 <chaals> q+
14:39:24 <achuter> +1
14:39:34 <yeliz> +1
14:39:51 <SeanP> +1
14:39:52 <chaals> FD: We made a print stylesheet so if you kill a tree the document looks better...
14:39:54 <DKA> q?
14:39:56 <DKA> ack jo
14:39:56 <Zakim> jo, you wanted to talk about the editorial comments
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14:40:54 <chaals> JR: There are a lot of editorial comments. Think it is good to expose our thinking at this point, and I hope we resolve these soon but I think it is helpful to show the ideas in the meantime.
14:41:02 <chaals> q-
14:41:10 <DKA> q?
14:41:14 <dom> [I think it's absolutely fine to go to FPWD with the editorial notes]
14:41:18 <chaals> [+1 for the proposed resolution]
14:42:04 <chaals> RESOLUTION: Publish the Content Transformation draft as a First Public Working Draft
14:42:22 <Martin1> +1
14:44:01 <chaals> JR: This is to reflect the thought that we need to actively promote the work of the group.
14:44:08 <dom> DKA: I think we need to do outreach about this document, esp. given the current climate around content transformation
14:44:42 <dom> DKA: the CT task force, under Jo's proposition, is suggesting we should organize an outreach event on CT, maybe around our Sophia F2F
14:45:24 <chaals> JR: It would be nice to have an event where people come and say how lovely this is.
14:45:46 <chaals> DKA: .mobi will promote it, we can do the same. I think everyone involved needs to sign up for promoting this.
14:46:55 <chaals> [process-wise I don't think there is a requirement that we support what a task force presents...]
14:47:06 <DKA> +1
14:48:10 <chaals> (discussion about how to promote this further - press releases, putting on pages, blogging, etc)
14:48:11 <dom> [I think it's too early for a Press Release; the document WILL be announced on the W3c home page]
14:49:01 <chaals> JR: Who on the call would attend a meeting to promote this
14:49:24 <achuter> zakim, unmute me
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14:49:30 <achuter> +1
14:49:36 <achuter> q+
14:49:45 <chaals> ... Sophia Antipolis is "not the most central and easily accessible place to hold a promotion event" (paraphrasing)
14:49:54 <DKA> q?
14:50:06 <chaals> ... maybe London, Frankfurt or somewhere would be better. But we need to feel that people's organisations would be interested in being there.
14:50:38 <DKA> ack achuter
14:51:01 <chaals> FD: We have half a day or so spare in Sophia Antipolis that we could use, independent of other things
14:51:15 <chaals> AC: POWDER organised an event at GSMA - might be a good model
14:51:17 <chaals> FD: Agree
14:51:19 <chaals> ack me
14:52:37 <jo> q+
14:52:58 <DKA> q?
14:53:25 <DKA> ack jo
14:53:44 <chaals> CMN: I am feeling like the Task Force is a bit premature in promoting this, given that it has had WG support for a rough draft for half an hour... although it does make sense to plan.
14:54:10 <chaals> JR: I owuld like to think that we are planning with a reasonable advance to ensure that when we have something like a last call we are ready to do stuff.
14:55:03 <chaals> ... waiting until this is in the middle of CR before we think about promoting it will cause us not to do so well.
14:55:31 <srowen> +2
14:55:32 <chaals> ... this WD is late on our schedule, but it seems time to plan for promoting the work in a timely way.
14:56:03 <srowen> (i am an unbiased third party)
14:56:05 <chaals> zakim, mute me
14:56:05 <Zakim> chaals should now be muted
14:56:57 <srowen> (... but I still have no idea what the suspicion or controversy is. it's already getting late as the timely discussion of this in the community is already passing)
14:57:07 <chaals> JR: What support is there in the group for people turning up and having their organisation say "we support this work" within the group?
14:57:19 <DKA> +1
14:57:25 <jeffs> +1
14:57:30 <Martin1> +1
14:57:33 <srowen> (Will speak for Aaron in saying yes)
14:57:35 <Kai> Maybe
14:57:37 <chaals> [unless we decide later that we hate this, we are likely to be there]
14:57:37 <jo> +1
14:57:38 <SeanP> +1
14:57:40 <achuter> Maybe
14:57:41 <edm> maybe
14:57:48 <francois> +1
14:57:49 <nacho> maybe too
14:57:51 <yeliz> maybe
15:00:03 <dom> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/BestPractices-2.0/ED-mobile-bp2-20080327 Latest BP2 draft
15:00:11 <chaals> Topic: BP2
15:00:17 <dom> s/0327/0409/
15:00:27 <chaals> DKA: We have a number of comments in and some responses
15:00:45 <chaals> ... it will be difficult to discuss this with Bryan :(
15:01:18 <chaals> JR: Having just had the group agree to make a FPWD, it seems that there is potentially less consensus about the readiness of BP2 for FPWD.
15:01:26 <dom> [I agree on Jo's view about not being quite at consensus yet]
15:01:32 <srowen> (Bryan asked that we not take a resolution one way or the other on proceeding today, in his absence.)
15:01:38 <chaals> q+ to suggest that we postpone a week even if just to get continuous news
15:02:04 <chaals> ... think we are heading in the right direction but the document should be clearer about noting the areas that are currently under discussion
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15:02:45 <chaals> DKA: Are there resolutions we can take?
15:02:46 <dom> q+ to re-ask about a second editor
15:03:00 <chaals> zakim, unmute me
15:03:00 <Zakim> chaals should no longer be muted
15:03:07 <srowen> (I personally am OK with a public draft that clearly marks a few areas as 'under discussion')
15:03:14 <achuter> zakim, mute me
15:03:15 <Zakim> achuter should now be muted
15:03:40 <chaals> ack me
15:03:40 <Zakim> chaals, you wanted to suggest that we postpone a week even if just to get continuous news
15:04:11 <dom> q?
15:04:18 <achuter> zakim, unmute me
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15:04:29 <chaals> No resolution today.
15:04:38 <chaals> Topic: Accessibility document
15:05:05 <chaals> AC: We have been looking at this for a while
15:05:48 <chaals> ... the mapping from BP to WCAG goes one way, the mapping the other way works differently.
15:06:00 <achuter> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/restructure/v2_wcag20-mwbp-together.html#mwbp_compared
15:06:45 <chaals> ... it seems better to make the flow follow the task and structure around the WCAG for someone who has done BP and wants to know what they still need to do for WCAG rather than being led through BP again.
15:06:51 <jo> [PROPOSED RESOLUTION: (To be taken next week) Proceed with new structure of Accessibility doc]
15:07:05 <jo> [All to be prepared to answer this in an informed way next week]
15:09:28 <jeffs> brb
15:10:03 <dom> DKA: shouldn't this be done as part of a primer rather than directly in this document?
15:10:26 <dom> [I don't see a benefit from building yet another document; this sounds like it should be the primer itself]
15:10:52 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
15:10:52 <Zakim> yeliz should no longer be muted
15:11:02 <yeliz> +q
15:12:00 <DKA> ack yeliz
15:12:04 <yeliz> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-mwbp-wcag-20080122/wcag20-mwbp.html#extending_WCAG20_MWBP10
15:12:40 <chaals> YY: There is a summary at the top of the document linked above saying which are the BPs you need to do still (or not)
15:13:15 <chaals> ... I think it is good to keep these documents short and have the summaries. I think it would be a good idea to have a seperate document that goes through best practices in detail showing how they relate to accessibility guidelines
15:14:15 <chaals> ACTION: Yeliz to restructure a couple of BPs to illustrate her point
15:14:15 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-733 - Restructure a couple of BPs to illustrate her point [on Yeliz Yesilada - due 2008-04-17].
15:14:49 <chaals> DKA: I wasn't talking about the exhaustive document. I am talking about a simple thing that says "you are here, this is what you need to add to get there"
15:14:59 <achuter> http://www.w3.org/WAI/mobile/
15:15:51 <chaals> AC: We are just talking about a new way of structuring the existing document to make it easier to use.
15:16:08 <chaals> ... pasted a link to a very short summary document which may be what DKA was wanting.
15:16:14 <chaals> zakim, mute me please
15:16:14 <Zakim> chaals should now be muted
15:16:18 <DKA> q?
15:17:16 <achuter> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/restructure/v2_wcag20-mwbp-together.html#wcag_sc_compared
15:17:48 <jo> q+
15:18:07 <DKA> Alan: review structure of the document, specifically whether 2nd half of the document should be removed.
15:18:27 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
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15:18:38 <chaals> DKA: Think we should review this document first
15:18:39 <DKA> Alan: (specifically "Individual WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria Compared")
15:18:54 <DKA> ack jo
15:19:16 <chaals> JR: Think we should plan some proposed resolutions to guide people where to look, so we can take advantage of the great work Alan has done.
15:19:34 <achuter> Please look through the section of the document pointed to by URL above and decide whether it is really useful and if not , could be removed
15:19:48 <chaals> DKA: Makes sense.
15:20:00 <jo> q+
15:20:03 <DKA> ack jo
15:20:22 <chaals> ... so for the agenda for next week, let's look at having a resolution on the question of whether to remove the section http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/restructure/v2_wcag20-mwbp-together.html#wcag_sc_compared
15:20:41 <dom> PROPOSED RESOLUTION (for next week): agree on the restructuring of the wcag-mwbp
15:21:37 <chaals> AC: I think we could go ahead, and the material is still around if we make the changes back again.
15:21:58 <chaals> JR: I don't want the group to keep giving you guys the runaround - we should have informed and clear guidance for you.
15:22:42 <achuter> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Apr/0040.html
15:23:07 <achuter> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Apr/0042.html
15:23:32 <chaals> DKA: You are asking Shawn these questions?
15:23:53 <chaals> AC: They are questions in the document, not things that we need to answer seperately.
15:24:08 <chaals> s/questions in/questions addressed in/
15:25:25 <dom> ACTION: Alan to prepare a set of resolutions for BPWG to approve
15:25:25 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Alan
15:25:25 <trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. achuter, atai)
15:25:32 <dom> ACTION: achuter to prepare a set of resolutions for BPWG to approve
15:25:32 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-734 - Prepare a set of resolutions for BPWG to approve [on Alan Chuter - due 2008-04-17].
15:25:39 <chaals> JR: Suggest Alan give us a list of proposed resolutions, with pointers to the things we need to understand to make intelligent decisions on the draft.
15:25:52 <chaals> Topic: BP2 second editor
15:25:52 <achuter> zakim, mute me
15:25:52 <Zakim> achuter should now be muted
15:25:53 <dom> ack me
15:26:42 <chaals> DHM: I have heard a few people wondering about moving BP2 to FPWD, and I think the best thing we could do would be to provide Bryan with a co-editor if we have someone available...
15:27:03 <chaals> ... so if anyone is wondering, please please step up
15:27:23 <DKA> +1
15:27:24 <chaals> ... may be text editing, or creating issues and following tracker etc, ...
15:28:33 <chaals> Topic: Other Business
15:28:59 <achuter> zakim, unmute me
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15:29:05 <chaals> JR: The resumed "mobile OK Trustmark Scheme draft thingo" has now been posted for people to consider...
15:29:38 <Zakim> -MartinJ
15:29:39 <edm> bye
15:29:39 <Zakim> -Dom
15:29:40 <Zakim> -jo
15:29:41 <Zakim> -achuter
15:29:41 <Zakim> -francois
15:29:42 <Zakim> -Kai
15:29:42 <nacho> bye
15:29:42 <Martin1> Martin1 has left #bpwg
15:29:43 <Zakim> -Ed_Mitukiewicz
15:29:45 <Zakim> -yeliz
15:29:46 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:29:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/10-bpwg-minutes.html francois
15:29:47 <Zakim> -Sean_Owen
15:29:49 <Zakim> -DKA
15:29:55 <Zakim> -SeanP
15:29:55 <chaals> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-Trustmark/latest
15:29:57 <Zakim> -abel
15:29:59 <Zakim> -jeffs
15:30:02 <Zakim> -drooks
15:30:02 <chaals> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:30:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/10-bpwg-minutes.html chaals
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15:30:07 <Zakim> -chaals
15:30:08 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
15:30:09 <Zakim> Attendees were DKA, francois, Sean_Owen, jeffs, Dom, yeliz, MartinJ, drooks, chaals, nacho, jo, +0496151aaaa, achuter, Kai, Ed_Mitukiewicz, SeanP, manrique
15:30:12 <nacho> nacho has left #bpwg
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15:56:30 <manrique> it seems it has ended
15:56:33 <manrique> see you
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