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12:25:51 <Christophe> zakim, what conferences?
12:25:51 <Zakim> I see ARCH_Team()8:00AM, UW_Team()8:00AM active
12:25:52 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM, IA_CDFWG()8:30AM
12:25:59 <Christophe> zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
12:25:59 <Zakim> ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
12:26:09 <Christophe> Meeting: TSD TF
12:26:18 <Christophe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Apr/0003.html
12:26:29 <Christophe> Chairs: CarlosV, Christophe
12:26:41 <Christophe> Agenda+ Links to video files
12:26:54 <Christophe> Agenda+ Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata
12:27:06 <Christophe> Agenda+ Review of test samples
12:27:15 <Christophe> Agenda+ Next steps for current repository content
12:27:23 <Christophe> Agenda+ Review of action items
12:30:05 <shadi> zakim, code?
12:30:05 <Zakim> the conference code is 8783 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
12:30:39 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
12:30:46 <Zakim> +Shadi
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12:31:26 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
12:31:27 <Zakim> +??P2
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12:31:47 <shadi> zakim, ??p2 is really Christophe
12:31:47 <Zakim> +Christophe; got it
12:31:53 <Zakim> +Cooper
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12:34:02 <Zakim> +Carlos_Iglesias
12:34:50 <shadi> agenda?
12:35:04 <Tim> Scribe: Tim
12:35:13 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 1
12:35:13 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Links to video files" taken up [from Christophe]
12:35:58 <Tim> CS: video files in different directory from author-supported media
12:36:31 <Tim> .. did anybody else find references?
12:37:02 <Tim> SAZ: need to make sure people upload files correctly (maybe do redirect?)
12:39:06 <Tim> .. CVS interface may solve problem when it comes
12:42:29 <Tim> Resolution: ignore the files that have been uploaded in the wrong directory and follow the process for future uploads
12:42:41 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 2
12:42:41 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata" taken up [from Christophe]
12:43:00 <Christophe> -> proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Apr/0002.html
12:43:02 <Tim> CS: proposal sent to list
12:44:16 <shadi> TECH_SCID_NNN -> xhtml1_text-equiv-all_002
12:45:07 <shadi> sc1.1.1_l1_002
12:46:01 <Tim> SAZ: SC ID more stable than SC number..
12:46:18 <Tim> .. also remove level reference since level may change
12:48:00 <Tim> CS: through rulesets should be able to get from SC ID to correct current SC number  
12:50:56 <Tim> SAZ: rulesets synchronized with WCAG
12:51:47 <Tim> SAZ: What about impact on current tests?
12:52:11 <Tim> CS: maybe can automate..?
12:53:13 <Tim> CS: maybe can add new attribute in TCDL that identifies test suite?
12:54:15 <Tim> .. with attribute direct identifier, with technology may need to infer 
12:56:31 <Tim> SAZ: techniques have different subcategories
12:56:44 <Tim> CS: some refer to general techniques
12:57:25 <Tim> SAZ: need to consider mapping of test suites to techniques
13:01:26 <Tim> CS: currently xhtml is only technology considered in this way 
13:02:33 <Tim> SAZ: different way of packaging tests into test suites than WCAG might have - possible issue? 
13:03:46 <Tim> SAZ: what sorting functionalities will be implemented?
13:04:22 <Tim> MC: metadata important, not necessarily packaging (from WCAG point of view)
13:05:00 <Tim> SAZ: maybe wait on this until other views presented (to see how people think)
13:06:05 <Tim> CS: do we want technology in naming convention?
13:07:08 <Tim> SAZ: need a definition for "technology"
13:10:59 <Tim> CS: may be complications in test samples referencing technologies
13:14:01 <Tim> SAZ: don't need to worry right now about how to sort test samples into test suites 
13:14:15 <Tim> .. maybe take back to mailing list
13:14:52 <Tim> SAZ: want a way to relate a test sample to test suite (only one test suite right now)
13:15:42 <Tim> SAZ: still need to consider in future how we define a test suite
13:17:11 <Tim> MC: make naming convention simple (and leave other info in metadata) 
13:18:54 <Tim> SAZ: need to consider kind of sorting we might want to do
13:21:47 <Tim> SAZ: need more discussion - respond to CS posting on mailing list
13:22:57 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 3
13:22:57 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Review of test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
13:23:32 <Christophe> -> structure review
13:23:36 <Christophe> -> structure review http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/process#structure
13:23:36 <Tim> CS: changed a few things in structure review - people should comment
13:24:20 <Tim> SAZ: clearer
13:24:25 <Tim> TB: agree
13:24:37 <Tim> CI: better
13:25:01 <Tim> Resolution: TF accepts changes by CS to structure review
13:25:52 <Christophe> -> naming convention http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL#naming
13:25:59 <Tim> CS: changes to naming convention section in metadata file
13:26:16 <Tim> CS: clarify WCAG level information
13:27:38 <Tim> CS: several test samples use audio or video (not listed in technology section of metadata) 
13:27:50 <Tim> SAZ: send directions on how to check this
13:30:00 <Tim> SAZ: next meeting April 22 tentatively (subject to availability) - otherwise 29th 
13:30:28 <Zakim> -Carlos_Iglesias
13:30:37 <Zakim> -Cooper
13:30:39 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
13:30:41 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:30:43 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
13:30:44 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Tim_Boland, Christophe, Cooper, Carlos_Iglesias
13:33:46 <shadi> zakim, bye
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13:34:04 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:34:08 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
13:34:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
13:34:09 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:35:45 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
13:35:45 <RRSAgent> I see no action items