IRC log of tsdtf on 2008-04-08
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- 12:25:51 [Christophe]
- zakim, what conferences?
- 12:25:51 [Zakim]
- I see ARCH_Team()8:00AM, UW_Team()8:00AM active
- 12:25:52 [Zakim]
- also scheduled at this time are WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM, IA_CDFWG()8:30AM
- 12:25:59 [Christophe]
- zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
- 12:25:59 [Zakim]
- ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
- 12:26:09 [Christophe]
- Meeting: TSD TF
- 12:26:18 [Christophe]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Apr/0003.html
- 12:26:29 [Christophe]
- Chairs: CarlosV, Christophe
- 12:26:41 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Links to video files
- 12:26:54 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata
- 12:27:06 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Review of test samples
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- Agenda+ Next steps for current repository content
- 12:27:23 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Review of action items
- 12:30:05 [shadi]
- zakim, code?
- 12:30:05 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 8783 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
- 12:30:39 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
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- +Shadi
- 12:31:16 [Tim]
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- +Tim_Boland
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- +??P2
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- 12:31:47 [shadi]
- zakim, ??p2 is really Christophe
- 12:31:47 [Zakim]
- +Christophe; got it
- 12:31:53 [Zakim]
- +Cooper
- 12:33:14 [carlosI]
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- 12:34:02 [Zakim]
- +Carlos_Iglesias
- 12:34:50 [shadi]
- agenda?
- 12:35:04 [Tim]
- Scribe: Tim
- 12:35:13 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 12:35:13 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Links to video files" taken up [from Christophe]
- 12:35:58 [Tim]
- CS: video files in different directory from author-supported media
- 12:36:31 [Tim]
- .. did anybody else find references?
- 12:37:02 [Tim]
- SAZ: need to make sure people upload files correctly (maybe do redirect?)
- 12:39:06 [Tim]
- .. CVS interface may solve problem when it comes
- 12:42:29 [Tim]
- Resolution: ignore the files that have been uploaded in the wrong directory and follow the process for future uploads
- 12:42:41 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 2
- 12:42:41 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata" taken up [from Christophe]
- 12:43:00 [Christophe]
- -> proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Apr/0002.html
- 12:43:02 [Tim]
- CS: proposal sent to list
- 12:44:16 [shadi]
- TECH_SCID_NNN -> xhtml1_text-equiv-all_002
- 12:45:07 [shadi]
- sc1.1.1_l1_002
- 12:46:01 [Tim]
- SAZ: SC ID more stable than SC number..
- 12:46:18 [Tim]
- .. also remove level reference since level may change
- 12:48:00 [Tim]
- CS: through rulesets should be able to get from SC ID to correct current SC number
- 12:50:56 [Tim]
- SAZ: rulesets synchronized with WCAG
- 12:51:47 [Tim]
- SAZ: What about impact on current tests?
- 12:52:11 [Tim]
- CS: maybe can automate..?
- 12:53:13 [Tim]
- CS: maybe can add new attribute in TCDL that identifies test suite?
- 12:54:15 [Tim]
- .. with attribute direct identifier, with technology may need to infer
- 12:56:31 [Tim]
- SAZ: techniques have different subcategories
- 12:56:44 [Tim]
- CS: some refer to general techniques
- 12:57:25 [Tim]
- SAZ: need to consider mapping of test suites to techniques
- 13:01:26 [Tim]
- CS: currently xhtml is only technology considered in this way
- 13:02:33 [Tim]
- SAZ: different way of packaging tests into test suites than WCAG might have - possible issue?
- 13:03:46 [Tim]
- SAZ: what sorting functionalities will be implemented?
- 13:04:22 [Tim]
- MC: metadata important, not necessarily packaging (from WCAG point of view)
- 13:05:00 [Tim]
- SAZ: maybe wait on this until other views presented (to see how people think)
- 13:06:05 [Tim]
- CS: do we want technology in naming convention?
- 13:07:08 [Tim]
- SAZ: need a definition for "technology"
- 13:10:59 [Tim]
- CS: may be complications in test samples referencing technologies
- 13:14:01 [Tim]
- SAZ: don't need to worry right now about how to sort test samples into test suites
- 13:14:15 [Tim]
- .. maybe take back to mailing list
- 13:14:52 [Tim]
- SAZ: want a way to relate a test sample to test suite (only one test suite right now)
- 13:15:42 [Tim]
- SAZ: still need to consider in future how we define a test suite
- 13:17:11 [Tim]
- MC: make naming convention simple (and leave other info in metadata)
- 13:18:54 [Tim]
- SAZ: need to consider kind of sorting we might want to do
- 13:21:47 [Tim]
- SAZ: need more discussion - respond to CS posting on mailing list
- 13:22:57 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
- 13:22:57 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Review of test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:23:32 [Christophe]
- -> structure review
- 13:23:36 [Christophe]
- -> structure review http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/process#structure
- 13:23:36 [Tim]
- CS: changed a few things in structure review - people should comment
- 13:24:20 [Tim]
- SAZ: clearer
- 13:24:25 [Tim]
- TB: agree
- 13:24:37 [Tim]
- CI: better
- 13:25:01 [Tim]
- Resolution: TF accepts changes by CS to structure review
- 13:25:52 [Christophe]
- -> naming convention http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL#naming
- 13:25:59 [Tim]
- CS: changes to naming convention section in metadata file
- 13:26:16 [Tim]
- CS: clarify WCAG level information
- 13:27:38 [Tim]
- CS: several test samples use audio or video (not listed in technology section of metadata)
- 13:27:50 [Tim]
- SAZ: send directions on how to check this
- 13:30:00 [Tim]
- SAZ: next meeting April 22 tentatively (subject to availability) - otherwise 29th
- 13:30:28 [Zakim]
- -Carlos_Iglesias
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- -Cooper
- 13:30:39 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
- 13:30:41 [Zakim]
- -Shadi
- 13:30:43 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
- 13:30:44 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Shadi, Tim_Boland, Christophe, Cooper, Carlos_Iglesias
- 13:33:46 [shadi]
- zakim, bye
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- 13:34:04 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, make minutes
- 13:34:08 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
- 13:34:09 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, bye
- 13:35:45 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items