IRC log of swd on 2008-04-08

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14:57:07 [Ralph]: zakim, this will be swd
14:57:07 [Zakim]: ok, Ralph; I see SW_SWD()11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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15:00:39 [Clay]: zakim, LC is Clay
15:00:44 [Zakim]: +Clay; got it
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15:01:36 [Ralph]: rrsagent, please make record public
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15:02:03 [Ralph]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Apr/0036.html
15:02:09 [Guus]: zakim, who is here?
15:02:09 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Ralph, Tom, Margherita_Sini, Clay, Antoine_Isaac, Guus
15:02:09 [Zakim]: On IRC I see JonP, berrueta, edsu, Antoine, Guus, Clay, marghe, Zakim, RRSAgent, aliman, seanb, Ralph
15:02:19 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-swd-minutes.html previous 2008-04-01
15:02:26 [Zakim]: +[LC]
15:02:38 [Zakim]: +??P5
15:02:42 [edsu]: Zakim, LC is edsu
15:02:44 [Zakim]: +edsu; got it
15:03:10 [Zakim]: +Jon_Phipps
15:03:26 [Ralph]: Regrets: Quentin, Ben, Vit, Simone
15:03:32 [JonP]: zaikai Jon_Phipps is me
15:03:36 [Ralph]: +Alistair
15:03:54 [JonP]: zakim, Jon_Phipps is me
15:03:54 [Zakim]: +JonP; got it
15:04:38 [Zakim]: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Antoine_Isaac
15:04:45 [Zakim]: +??P36
15:04:46 [Ralph]: Scribe: Ralph
15:04:53 [Ralph]: zakim, ??p36 is Sean
15:04:53 [Zakim]: +Sean; got it
15:05:11 [Ralph]: Topic: Admin
15:05:22 [Ralph]: next telecon: 15 April 2008 1500 UTC
15:05:45 [Ralph]: RESOLVED: http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-swd-minutes.html accepted as minutes of 1 April telecon
15:06:00 [Ralph]: ACTION: Chairs to draft charter extension proposal for SKOS until July 1st [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-swd-minutes.html#action01]
15:06:03 [Ralph]: -- continues
15:06:21 [Ralph]: Guus: Tom and I agreed to do this after today (European proposal deadline today)
15:06:37 [Ralph]: PROPOSED: to have a May 6-7 SKOS face-to-face in Washington
15:07:03 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39408/FTF-May-2008-poll/results Face-to-face meeting poll results
15:07:11 [Ralph]: Clay: we have a conference room for both days at LoC
15:07:28 [Ralph]: ... the only issue has been determining if we can get network access for everyone
15:07:46 [Ralph]: ... typically it's tough to get internet connectivity for visitors
15:07:55 [Ralph]: ... I'm hoping to be able to get 15 'blessed' connections
15:08:09 [Ralph]: Guus: connectivity is more essential for us, being a Web group
15:08:28 [Ralph]: Clay: I think it's mostly a matter of preparing; there's pretty high visibility for this
15:09:06 [Ralph]: Ralph: do you mean to devote the entire agenda to SKOS?
15:09:13 [Ralph]: Guus: yes, that's what I was thinking
15:09:19 [Ralph]: ... we could devote some time to the other tasks
15:09:35 [Ralph]: ... my main goal was to get major decisions taken to have a clear road to a Last Call draft for SKOS
15:10:08 [Ralph]: ... however, if Jon and Diego want an hour for recipes I'd be happy to schedule this
15:10:26 [Ralph]: Jon: I'm inclined to think we don't need to put recipes on the f2f agenda
15:10:33 [Ralph]: ... we're pretty close to a final draft
15:10:47 [aliman]: what about vocab management?
15:10:58 [Ralph]: Ralph: perhaps an hour on Vocab Mgmnt would be useful?
15:11:06 [Ralph]: Guus: we were hoping to finish the other tasks by 5 May
15:11:22 [Ralph]: ... but we could schedule a total of 2 hours for other topics than SKOS
15:12:01 [Ralph]: RESOLVED: Face-to-Face in Washington on 6 & 7 May
15:12:25 [Ralph]: Sean: will there be dial-in facilities?
15:12:32 [Ralph]: Clay: good question
15:12:53 [edsu]: Ralph++
15:12:59 [Ralph]: ... we can find a speakerphone
15:13:19 [Ralph]: Ralph: no problem using W3C's bridge
15:13:35 [Ralph]: Guus: thanks to Library of Congress for hosting
15:13:39 [Zakim]: +nacho
15:13:45 [Ralph]: ACTION: Guus and Tom draft an agenda for the May f2f
15:13:49 [berrueta]: zakim, nacho is me
15:13:49 [Zakim]: +berrueta; got it
15:13:59 [Ralph]: Guus: can we start at 9am on Tuesday?
15:14:04 [Ralph]: Ralph: that's late for me :)
15:14:22 [Ralph]: ... I second starting no earlier than 8 and no later than 9 :)
15:14:40 [Ralph]: Guus: expect to start at 0900 on Tuesday and finish by 1600 on Wednesday
15:14:57 [Ralph]: Topic: SKOS Primer
15:15:09 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-primer-20080221/ Primer editor's draft
15:15:16 [Ralph]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus to check the text in the primer on relationship between Concept Schemes and OWL Ontologies. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action13]
15:15:20 [Ralph]: -- continues
15:15:26 [Ralph]: ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08]
15:15:27 [Ralph]: -- continues
15:15:51 [Ralph]: Guus: what's critical for the Primer now?
15:15:56 [Ralph]: Alistair: it's looking pretty good
15:16:12 [Ralph]: ... just some things I highlighted in my review, which also relate to the mapping vocabulary issues
15:16:42 [Ralph]: ... the story we tell about concept schemes, ontologies, and levels; whether we link broadergeneric to OWL or leave them more open; this will be the difficult thing
15:16:56 [Ralph]: Topic: SKOS Reference
15:17:12 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-reference-20080125/ SKOS Reference WD
15:17:27 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosReference20080125 comments on 25 Jan WD
15:18:05 [Ralph]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Mar/0087.html [SKOS] Standalone definitions in natural language; previous links in headers [Tom 2008-03-25]
15:18:22 [Ralph]: Guus: my advice was to have pointers to natural language descriptions
15:18:32 [Ralph]: [DONE] ACTION: Sean to propose a way to handle deprecated properties (updating RDF schema) [recorded in [63]http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-minutes.html#action06]
15:18:44 [Ralph]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Apr/0032.html Deprecated SKOS Vocabulary [Sean 2008-04-07]
15:19:00 [Ralph]: Sean: my proposal is to document the deprecated vocabulary in the spec but omit it from the RDF schema
15:19:11 [Ralph]: ... would be nice to start with a clean schema
15:19:29 [Ralph]: Guus: document the deprecated vocabulary in an appendix
15:19:43 [Ralph]: Sean: we should discuss the namespace
15:20:33 [aliman]: +1 to sean's proposal re deprecated properties
15:20:35 [Ralph]: Tom: is there a W3C policy on support of schemas for spec that have not yet reached REC
15:21:21 [Ralph]: Ralph: we can -- and should prior to CR -- have a namespace document
15:21:33 [Ralph]: Tom: the previous SKOS drafts are a legacy specification
15:22:08 [Ralph]: Ralph: is the question about use of the legacy namespace?
15:22:20 [Ralph]: Sean: there will be some legacy vocabulary lying around; the things we're going to deprecate
15:22:42 [Ralph]: ... is the W3C happy about there being legacy vocabulary around that is not described in a machine readable form?
15:22:55 [Ralph]: Tom: can you follow your nose?
15:23:34 [Ralph]: Ralph: I think it would be considered unfriendly to remove things from the namespace
15:23:43 [Ralph]: ... @@ deploy
15:24:47 [Ralph]: ... I think we'd get severe push-back both architecturally and from users of the old specs if we remove things from the namespace
15:25:03 [Ralph]: Alistair: I assumed we'd stick with the same namespace just because there's a lot of deployed data
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15:25:26 [Ralph]: ... the deployed data would be consistent with the current spec
15:25:33 [Ralph]: Ralph: the things we're deprecating are not used?
15:25:48 [Ralph]: Tom: Alistair's point is that there's a lot of data the uses the existing namespace
15:26:01 [Zakim]: +Elisa_Kendall
15:26:05 [Ralph]: ... if there is a new namespace then a relationship between the two namespaces would need to be declared
15:26:21 [Ralph]: ... would the old namespace disappear?
15:26:27 [edsu]: Ralph: if you asking if the old namespace would dissappear the answer is no
15:26:29 [Ralph]: Ralph: the old namespace definitely won't disappear
15:26:40 [Ralph]: Alistair: there's been some effort to put data in SKOS form
15:26:49 [Ralph]: scribenick: edsu
15:27:16 [edsu]: Ralph: a lot of the data wouldn't need to change
15:27:45 [edsu]: aliman: a small amt of data might use some deprecated vocabulary would need to change, but the majority wouldn't have to change at all
15:28:11 [edsu]: Guus: i'm slightly worried about making a new vocabulary that makes data on the web invalid
15:28:21 [edsu]: ... i'm more in favor of using a version type link
15:28:55 [edsu]: Ralph: how expensive is it for us to retain the deprecated vocabulary in our namespace document? I respect the truth/beauty argument, but I wouldn't want to omit this possibility
15:29:30 [edsu]: aliman: i'm a bit confused: how do we deal with the deprecated vocabulary, and one that is what is the namespace for skos -- i thought we were talking about what the skos namespace should be
15:29:43 [edsu]: seanb: i think we're having both convos at the same time
15:30:00 [edsu]: Guus: if we keep the same namespace it would be better to have the old vocabulary marked as deprecated
15:30:28 [edsu]: ... if we move to a new namespace we stil keep the old one, but people who want to use the new vocabulary have to change the namespace vocabulary
15:30:42 [edsu]: Ralph: the strongest reason for moving to a new namespace is to remove the clutter
15:31:09 [edsu]: aliman: by creating a new namespace you are deprecating the old one
15:31:19 [edsu]: Guus: not entirely true, people could still use the old one
15:31:28 [edsu]: Ralph: could provide owl:sameAs relationships
15:31:58 [edsu]: Antoine: i have a question regarding a question from Simon Spero on the list, about the semantics between the new/old vocabularies
15:32:33 [edsu]: Ralph: would it raise actual problems, or theoretical problems?
15:33:01 [edsu]: aliman: implementations might have to change
15:33:36 [edsu]: Guus: we cannot make assumptions about what people have done, if they have used transitive they will now be in trouble ... from a maintenance point of view there is a strong case for creating a new URI for the 2nd version
15:33:53 [edsu]: seanb: do we have a feel for how people are using the vocabulary?
15:34:09 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec/ old SKOS WD
15:34:20 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-reference-20080125/ old SKOS WD
15:34:45 [edsu]: Ralph: alistair, what's your belief about how stable people felt the old definitions were
15:35:06 [Zakim]: +??P7
15:35:08 [edsu]: aliman: i think people have anticipated that things would change, because they've been asking when the REC would come out
15:35:32 [Guus]: [who just joined?]
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15:35:33 [edsu]: ... i would also defer to Antoine, Jon and Ed on what people are doing
15:35:44 [Ralph]: zakim, ??p7 is dlrubin
15:35:44 [Zakim]: +dlrubin; got it
15:35:52 [edsu]: seanb: are they concerned with the vocabulary or just the namespace?
15:36:30 [edsu]: aliman: tools have been built, some are in the commercial space, it wouldn't hurt too badly to ask people to change their URIs
15:36:56 [edsu]: Ralph: i think we should document this and flag it, and make it part of the Last Call
15:37:25 [edsu]: ... from the point of view of the w3c effort, this work has been in working draft for a few years, that would be the basis of keeping the current namespace
15:37:56 [edsu]: ... we should acknowledge existing users however
15:38:11 [edsu]: Guus: i would feel uncomfortable to force people to make a change
15:38:39 [edsu]: Ralph: the question is what do we force them to change, to change transitive implementations or URIs
15:38:56 [edsu]: Guus: there's nothing deprecated about the old namespace
15:39:12 [edsu]: Ralph: that means tools would need to recognize both namespaces
15:39:55 [edsu]: ... it's feeling like the least pain is if we change the definitions of the terms in the namespace
15:40:03 [edsu]: Guus: whatever we do we should make it a Last Call issue
15:40:50 [edsu]: marghe: the advantage to having a new namespace is that we will keep in mind versioning, it may be difficult to keep track of the different changes over time, we wouldn't know when new properties are added, etc
15:41:22 [edsu]: Guus: this is something we can't decide on now, i think seanb's messsage raises some clear points, and we should cover this in the f2f
15:41:37 [edsu]: Ralph: we should adapt the VocabManagement document to suit our needs :-)
15:41:59 [Ralph]: scribenick: Ralph
15:42:09 [Ralph]: ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits the reasoning that was made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10]
15:42:11 [Ralph]: -- continues
15:42:32 [Ralph]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Mar/0083.html 2008-03-24: questions about n-ary relations solution
15:42:40 [Ralph]: Guus: let's come back to this
15:42:47 [Ralph]: ... if there's time later in the telecon
15:42:57 [Ralph]: Topic: RDFa
15:43:17 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-rdfa-minutes.html 3-April telecon minutes
15:43:24 [Ralph]: ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
15:43:26 [Ralph]: -- continues
15:45:23 [edsu]: Ralph: the TF last Thursday did make some changes to the SPEC, 1 was to change instanceof to typeof, and the other is to make a small change to the processing rules, to remove a side effect from a change that this working group recommended -- we removed some bnodes that otherwise wouldn't be there, both have implementation impact, relatively small, the TF is recommending we extend Last Call by 3 weeks, to allow for testing of processing rules
15:46:02 [edsu]: Ralph: i asked for the processing rules to undergo a bit more testing before we go to Candidate Recommendation
15:46:51 [edsu]: diego: need some time to look at the changes
15:47:01 [edsu]: Ralph: ideal path would've been to publish an updated working draft
15:47:10 [edsu]: ... that would add more than a 3 week delay
15:47:30 [edsu]: ... we believe we have given notice to the active implementor community, we may need to do this in a more visible way
15:48:08 [edsu]: ... we don't have final new language on the change to show to diego, i don't feel comfortable until we see the new language making any decision
15:48:25 [edsu]: Guus: i assume you are distributing a comment to that effect to the various channels
15:48:41 [edsu]: ... i think if you do that all is fine
15:48:54 [edsu]: Ralph: ok
15:49:16 [edsu]: Guus: it might effect our charter extension proposal, if after May 1 we might do more work that we expect
15:50:04 [edsu]: Ralph: we're still expecting some post deadline comments, but don't expect them to have substantive impact, one of the last ones is from Yahoo, and they are in favor of both of the proposed minor changes
15:50:22 [edsu]: ... we're not proposing to delay last call
15:51:37 [Ralph]: scribenick: ralph
15:51:39 [Ralph]: Topic: Recipes
15:51:52 [Ralph]: ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
15:51:57 [Ralph]: -- continues
15:52:02 [Ralph]: ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
15:52:03 [Ralph]: -- continues
15:52:25 [Ralph]: [DONE] ACTION: Recipes editors to clarify and write some sentences for the title that spells out points Ed made for .htaccess and Apache [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action13]
15:52:43 [Ralph]: Topic: Vocabulary Management
15:53:06 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/Vocab/principles-20080316 VM 16 March Editor's Draft
15:53:26 [Ralph]: Elisa: Ralph and Diego's comments were helpful
15:53:40 [Ralph]: ... should be able to deal with these in short order
15:53:50 [Ralph]: Diego: document seems to be in good shape; only minor changes
15:54:03 [Ralph]: ... the way Recipes is cited
15:54:12 [Ralph]: ... my comments should be easy to tackle
15:54:20 [Guus]: Diego's comments:
15:54:22 [Guus]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Apr/0043.html
15:54:40 [Ralph]: Elisa: I agree; I may want to iterate with Diego to get the language describing the relationship with Recipes
15:55:11 [edsu]: scribenick: edsu
15:55:50 [edsu]: Ralph: i think the work that's there now is good enough that it would be shame to abandon, if we publish now with @@ i think we can fill them in later
15:56:00 [edsu]: Guus: we need to try to keep a strict timeframe
15:56:59 [edsu]: Ralph: if we wrestle with the skos namespace, this is the document that should/can decide how we resolve the skos namespace, my hope has been that this issue of how to evolve namespaces would rest here, i would like to publish this as a framework where we can put our knowledge in
15:57:10 [edsu]: Guus: tom you have some review as well?
15:57:13 [Ralph]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Apr/0043.html [VM] review of March 16 editor's draft [Diego]
15:57:22 [edsu]: Tom: i'll have them before next weeks call
15:57:31 [Ralph]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Apr/0030.html [VM] comments on 16 March editor's draft [Ralph]
15:57:37 [edsu]: scribenick: Ralph
15:58:06 [Ralph]: Elisa: I expect to be able to return a new version quickly once I get the comments from Tom and Mark
15:58:18 [Ralph]: Guus: I'd like explicit emails to reach consensus
15:58:22 [Ralph]: Elisa: OK
15:58:51 [Ralph]: ... I still hope to be able to attend the face-to-face
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15:59:08 [Ralph]: Chair: Guus
15:59:13 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
15:59:31 [Zakim]: -dlrubin
15:59:49 [Ralph]: Meeting: Semantic Web Deployment WG
16:00:32 [Ralph]: i/Ralph: the TF last Thursday/scribenick: edsu
16:00:47 [Ralph]: Guus: more SKOS discussion next week, and 2 more reviews of VM
16:00:51 [Ralph]: [adjourned]
16:00:58 [Zakim]: -Elisa_Kendall
16:00:59 [Zakim]: -Tom
16:00:59 [Zakim]: -Clay
16:01:00 [Zakim]: -berrueta
16:01:02 [Zakim]: -edsu
16:01:02 [Zakim]: -JonP
16:01:03 [Zakim]: -Margherita_Sini
16:01:07 [edsu]: Guus: are you still there?
16:01:09 [Zakim]: -Ralph
16:01:18 [Ralph]: zakim, list attendees
16:01:18 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been Ralph, Margherita_Sini, Tom, Antoine_Isaac, Clay, Guus, edsu, aliman, JonP, Sean, berrueta, Elisa_Kendall, dlrubin
16:01:24 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:03:16 [Zakim]: -Antoine_Isaac
16:03:39 [Zakim]: -Sean
16:03:43 [seanb]: seanb has left #swd
16:03:44 [Zakim]: -Guus
16:03:48 [Guus]: ed?
16:04:05 [Ralph]: mm. what happened to ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 ?
16:04:15 [Ralph]: (was pending from last week)
16:04:24 [Guus]: my fault probably
16:04:26 [edsu]: Guus: is it possible at all for people outside the WG to attend the mtg?
16:04:54 [edsu]: Guus: Simon Spero is interested, he has been doing some work w/ SKOS at unc.edu
16:04:59 [Guus]: they have to ask permission of the chairs, but it is certainly not impossible
16:05:03 [Ralph]: I'll carry forward all the missing [PENDING] actions, then, Guus
16:05:09 [edsu]: Guus: ok, i'll let him know
16:05:15 [Ralph]: ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-swd-minutes.html#action06]
16:05:21 [edsu]: Guus: thanks :)
16:05:29 [Guus]: ok, see you
16:05:32 [Ralph]: ACTION: Antoine will review Alistair's proposals w/r/t the relationship between the existing solution and the extension [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action06]
16:05:57 [Ralph]: ACTION: Alistair to review Antoine and Guus' emails to move ISSUE-71 and -74 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action09]
16:06:34 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:07:08 [Ralph]: -- continues
16:07:34 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:07:59 [JonP]: JonP has left #swd
16:08:07 [Ralph]: i/Guus: thanks/-- continues/
16:08:20 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:08:45 [Zakim]: disconnecting the lone participant, aliman, in SW_SWD()11:00AM
16:09:05 [Ralph]: i/ACTION: Alistair to review Antoine/--continues/
16:12:48 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:13:55 [Ralph]: i/-- continues/--continues
16:13:57 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:14:32 [Ralph]: --continues
16:14:35 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:15:44 [Ralph]: zakim, bye
16:15:44 [Zakim]: leaving. As of this point the attendees were Ralph, Margherita_Sini, Tom, Antoine_Isaac, Clay, Guus, edsu, aliman, JonP, Sean, berrueta, Elisa_Kendall, dlrubin
16:15:44 [Zakim]: Zakim has left #swd
16:15:46 [Ralph]: rrsagent, bye
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-actions.rdf :
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Chairs to draft charter extension proposal for SKOS until July 1st [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-swd-minutes.html#action01] [1]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-06-00
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Guus and Tom draft an agenda for the May f2f [2]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-13-45
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus to check the text in the primer on relationship between Concept Schemes and OWL Ontologies. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action13] [3]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-15-16
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08] [4]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-15-26
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits the reasoning that was made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10] [5]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-42-09
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [6]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-43-24
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [7]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-51-52
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [8]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T15-52-02
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-swd-minutes.html#action06] [9]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T16-05-15
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Antoine will review Alistair's proposals w/r/t the relationship between the existing solution and the extension [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action06] [10]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T16-05-32
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to review Antoine and Guus' emails to move ISSUE-71 and -74 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action09] [11]
16:15:46 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-swd-irc#T16-05-57