IRC log of mwts on 2008-04-08
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc
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- RRSAgent, make log public
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- Zakim, this will be TS
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- Meeting: MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
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- ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0004.html
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- Chair: Dom
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- Regrets: Carmelo
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- MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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- +??P7
- 14:57:01 [hendry]
- i think i joined the teleconference bridge
- 14:57:22 [dom]
- ok; we'll only be starting the call at the top of the hour (in a couple of minutes)
- 14:57:59 [Zakim]
- + +47.24.16.aaaa
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- +Dom
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- zakim, aaaa is Wilhelm
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- +Wilhelm; got it
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- ??P7 is hendry
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- zakim, ??P7 is hendry
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- +hendry; got it
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- i'm here
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- Topic: Mobile Acid Test
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- Kai: I'm hoping this test can help bring the Web to the mobile
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- +??P11
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- natalian.org
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- zakim, ??P11 is Dmitri
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- +Dmitri; got it
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0005.html Kai's feedback
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- "Web Compatibility Test for Mobile Browsers"
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- RESOLUTION: the mobile acid test is renamed "Web Compatibility Test for Mobile Browsers"
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- ACTION: Dom to retitle the test and related documents
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0006.html Wilhelm's responses to Kai
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- ACTION: Dom to look into a gzip test
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- -Dom
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- -hendry
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- -Wilhelm
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- -Dmitri
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- MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +47.24.16.aaaa, Dom, Wilhelm, hendry, Dmitri
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- Topic: WCSS to CSS MP2.0 Test suite
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- ACTION: Carmelo to get corrected WCSS test cases to match the changes in CSS MP 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING]
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- [continued without discussion]
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- Topic: Mobile Acid Test
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- Dom: Kai Hendry from Aplix is on the call today to discuss the feedback he sent on mobile acid test
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- ... First, let's agree on the new name for the test
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- Dmitri: shouldn't it be "compliance" rather than "compatibility"
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- Dom: the tests are too simple to test for compliance; "Web compatibility" just means the user agent has support for important Web technologies
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- Kai: [presenting the feedback he sent by email]
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- ... the iPhone really set a baseline for the Web on mobile, would probably be worth having it pass the test
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- Wilhelm: we want something a bit more forward looking, something that browser vendors can target for a year or two from now
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- Dom: maybe we could also work on a less difficult test? a baseline for today Web? in any case, think we should continue on the current test as is for now
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- Kai: don't think SVG is so important, but can live with it
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- Dom: note that SVG will be included in next iPhone release
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- Kai: think that more tests for Javascript support would be useful
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- ... will try to submit a test, and have asked for ideas around (e.g. to the open ajax alliance)
- 15:33:00 [dom]
- Dom: sounds good, thx!
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- ... Suggestion for a gzip-compression test sounds interesting too, I'll look into it
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- Wilhelm: I'm ok with removing the data: URI test, probably not so important indeed
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- ... I'm still working on improving the compatibility, hopefully will be done tonight
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- ACTION: Wilhelm to make sure that mobile acid test works reliably on most browsers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING]
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- ACTION: Dom to add a graphical map of the mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
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- ACTION: Wilhelm to propose names for the mobile ACID test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
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- ACTION: Carmelo to send input on mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING]
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- Dom: so, if all goes as planned, we should be ready to announce (for good!) next week
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- ... I plan to blog about it, announce it to mailing lists
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- ... will try to get announced on the W3C home page as well
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- ... We should let the WaSP now too
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- Kai: you should let the Open Ajax Alliance know as well
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- Wilhelm: FWIW, I've sent a mail to Ian Hickson about our ongoing work this morning
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-minutes.html dom
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- Zakim, bye
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Dom to retitle the test and related documents [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-08-38
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- ACTION: Dom to look into a gzip test [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-19-30
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- ACTION: Carmelo to get corrected WCSS test cases to match the changes in CSS MP 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-28-26
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- ACTION: Wilhelm to make sure that mobile acid test works reliably on most browsers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-11
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- ACTION: Dom to add a graphical map of the mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] [5]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-20
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- ACTION: Wilhelm to propose names for the mobile ACID test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] [6]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-30
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- ACTION: Carmelo to send input on mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] [7]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-42