IRC log of mwts on 2008-04-08

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc
14:55:34 [dom]
RRSAgent, make log public
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Zakim, this will be TS
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Meeting: MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
14:55:35 [Zakim]
ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0004.html
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Chair: Dom
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Regrets: Carmelo
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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+??P7
14:57:01 [hendry]
i think i joined the teleconference bridge
14:57:22 [dom]
ok; we'll only be starting the call at the top of the hour (in a couple of minutes)
14:57:59 [Zakim]
+ +47.24.16.aaaa
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+Dom
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zakim, aaaa is Wilhelm
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+Wilhelm; got it
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??P7 is hendry
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zakim, ??P7 is hendry
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+hendry; got it
15:00:54 [hendry]
i'm here
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Topic: Mobile Acid Test
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Kai: I'm hoping this test can help bring the Web to the mobile
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+??P11
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natalian.org
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zakim, ??P11 is Dmitri
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+Dmitri; got it
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0005.html Kai's feedback
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"Web Compatibility Test for Mobile Browsers"
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RESOLUTION: the mobile acid test is renamed "Web Compatibility Test for Mobile Browsers"
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ACTION: Dom to retitle the test and related documents
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0006.html Wilhelm's responses to Kai
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ACTION: Dom to look into a gzip test
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-Dom
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-hendry
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-Wilhelm
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-Dmitri
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +47.24.16.aaaa, Dom, Wilhelm, hendry, Dmitri
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Topic: WCSS to CSS MP2.0 Test suite
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ACTION: Carmelo to get corrected WCSS test cases to match the changes in CSS MP 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING]
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[continued without discussion]
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Topic: Mobile Acid Test
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Dom: Kai Hendry from Aplix is on the call today to discuss the feedback he sent on mobile acid test
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... First, let's agree on the new name for the test
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Dmitri: shouldn't it be "compliance" rather than "compatibility"
15:30:11 [dom]
Dom: the tests are too simple to test for compliance; "Web compatibility" just means the user agent has support for important Web technologies
15:30:22 [dom]
Kai: [presenting the feedback he sent by email]
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... the iPhone really set a baseline for the Web on mobile, would probably be worth having it pass the test
15:31:06 [dom]
Wilhelm: we want something a bit more forward looking, something that browser vendors can target for a year or two from now
15:31:46 [dom]
Dom: maybe we could also work on a less difficult test? a baseline for today Web? in any case, think we should continue on the current test as is for now
15:32:01 [dom]
Kai: don't think SVG is so important, but can live with it
15:32:20 [dom]
Dom: note that SVG will be included in next iPhone release
15:32:32 [dom]
Kai: think that more tests for Javascript support would be useful
15:32:54 [dom]
... will try to submit a test, and have asked for ideas around (e.g. to the open ajax alliance)
15:33:00 [dom]
Dom: sounds good, thx!
15:33:30 [dom]
... Suggestion for a gzip-compression test sounds interesting too, I'll look into it
15:33:44 [dom]
Wilhelm: I'm ok with removing the data: URI test, probably not so important indeed
15:33:59 [dom]
... I'm still working on improving the compatibility, hopefully will be done tonight
15:34:11 [dom]
ACTION: Wilhelm to make sure that mobile acid test works reliably on most browsers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING]
15:34:20 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to add a graphical map of the mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
15:34:30 [dom]
ACTION: Wilhelm to propose names for the mobile ACID test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE]
15:34:42 [dom]
ACTION: Carmelo to send input on mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING]
15:35:03 [dom]
Dom: so, if all goes as planned, we should be ready to announce (for good!) next week
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... I plan to blog about it, announce it to mailing lists
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... will try to get announced on the W3C home page as well
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... We should let the WaSP now too
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Kai: you should let the Open Ajax Alliance know as well
15:36:04 [dom]
Wilhelm: FWIW, I've sent a mail to Ian Hickson about our ongoing work this morning
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-minutes.html dom
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Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Dom to retitle the test and related documents [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-08-38
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ACTION: Dom to look into a gzip test [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-19-30
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ACTION: Carmelo to get corrected WCSS test cases to match the changes in CSS MP 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-28-26
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ACTION: Wilhelm to make sure that mobile acid test works reliably on most browsers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/11-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-11
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ACTION: Dom to add a graphical map of the mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-20
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ACTION: Wilhelm to propose names for the mobile ACID test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-30
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ACTION: Carmelo to send input on mobile acid test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-mwts-irc#T15-34-42