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13:56:56 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be DBWG
13:56:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng; I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
13:56:57 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference
13:56:57 <trackbot-ng> Date: 08 April 2008
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14:00:23 <Zakim> +George_Cowe
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14:01:51 <pauld> zakim, code?
14:01:52 <Zakim> the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), pauld
14:02:02 <Zakim> + +0791888aaaa
14:02:20 <pauld> zakim, aaaa is me
14:02:21 <Zakim> +pauld; got it
14:02:41 <Zakim> +Yves
14:03:21 <pauld> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Apr/0000.html
14:04:03 <pauld> thanks Yves for handling publication!
14:04:28 <pauld> http://www.w3.org/News/2008#item56
14:07:52 <pauld> gcowe: going to talk to the XForms WG about our publication
14:09:37 <pauld> gcowe: added the annotation to the detector source code, in offline version, and an online version on the Origo site
14:11:26 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/patternsdetector.xsl
14:11:35 <pauld> yves: w3c service uses the stylesheet directly 
14:11:50 <pauld> pauld: our page is out of date: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/
14:11:57 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/detected.xsl
14:12:16 <pauld> gcowe: looks different to the detector used by the collection
14:14:00 <pauld> pauld: collection uses a different stylesheet, ant: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/build.xml
14:14:05 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/test.html
14:14:15 <Yves> is the right page
14:15:30 <Yves> so http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/results.xsl and http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/patternsdetector.xsl
14:16:02 <pauld> ACTION: pdowney to investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML
14:16:02 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-131 - Investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML [on Paul Downey - due 2008-04-15].
14:17:13 <pauld> Topic: ISSUE-2: test suite
14:17:48 <pauld> gcowe: been helping Adrian re-run WCF and BEA
14:18:04 <pauld> .. still issues with running WCF, Adrian is investigating
14:18:46 <pauld> gcowe: XBinder submitted testcases, but had issues with echo WSDL and schemas. I've corrected the stylesheet and put back into CVS
14:19:14 <pauld> .. had issues with the CVS version
14:19:22 <pauld> yves: will investigate
14:20:53 <pauld> gcowe: excluded test cases were the issue
14:21:25 <pauld> pauld: I was happy for us to ignore those cases, but cool if you've fixed them
14:23:13 <pauld> pauld: I still have to rerun my tests
14:24:25 <pauld> Topic: Identifier Names 
14:24:31 <pauld> pauld: this was ISSUE-10
14:24:49 <pauld> gcowe: been looking (again) at the simple test cases: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/testsuite/documents/names/
14:25:29 <pauld> pauld: I think the issue you were interested in was the length, beyond 32 
14:26:30 <pauld> pauld: the way we're geared up, we could end up with 1000's of examples if we're not careful
14:28:10 <pauld> pauld: suggest creating a few test cases, long names being one 
14:29:38 <pauld> gcowe: will create those examples
14:29:58 <pauld> Topic: Moving Forward for Advanced
14:30:30 <pauld> pauld: we need to move Advanced forward. Collection is key to this.
14:32:00 <pauld> pauld: Think we need to timebox this activity - maybe next couple of months ticking off the collection
14:33:11 <pauld> gcowe: Origo schemas are now all Advanced, mainly due to xs:choice
14:34:34 <pauld> .. things are improving, really having a problem with maxOccurs, maybe we could revisit that
14:36:02 <pauld> pauld: my issue is how as a working group we process and accept Advanced patterns into the spec
14:37:20 <pauld> pauld: suggesting we allow editors to add patterns to patterns.xml, so long as they are "advanced" and we'll consolidate and review before progressing the document
14:37:47 <pauld> pauld: so just take care to add sensible patterns!
14:40:50 <Zakim> -pauld
14:40:52 <Zakim> -George_Cowe
14:40:53 <Zakim> -Yves
14:40:54 <pauld> pauld: we'll pickup in two weeks time
14:40:55 <Zakim> WS_DBWG()10:00AM has ended
14:40:56 <Zakim> Attendees were George_Cowe, +0791888aaaa, pauld, Yves
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14:41:13 <pauld> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:41:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-databinding-minutes.html pauld
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14:41:50 <gcowe> Yves - thats fixed the echo examples problem! 
14:42:34 <Yves> good! strange it didn't work last time
14:42:45 <Yves> I did it on another machine, so that might explain :/
14:43:00 <gcowe> keep using that machine!!! 
14:43:06 <Yves> :)
14:43:14 <gcowe> thanks.
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