IRC log of databinding on 2008-04-08

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Zakim, this will be DBWG
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ok, trackbot-ng; I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 08 April 2008
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+George_Cowe
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14:01:51 [pauld]
zakim, code?
14:01:52 [Zakim]
the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), pauld
14:02:02 [Zakim]
+ +0791888aaaa
14:02:20 [pauld]
zakim, aaaa is me
14:02:21 [Zakim]
+pauld; got it
14:02:41 [Zakim]
+Yves
14:03:21 [pauld]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Apr/0000.html
14:04:03 [pauld]
thanks Yves for handling publication!
14:04:28 [pauld]
http://www.w3.org/News/2008#item56
14:07:52 [pauld]
gcowe: going to talk to the XForms WG about our publication
14:09:37 [pauld]
gcowe: added the annotation to the detector source code, in offline version, and an online version on the Origo site
14:11:26 [Yves]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/patternsdetector.xsl
14:11:35 [pauld]
yves: w3c service uses the stylesheet directly
14:11:50 [pauld]
pauld: our page is out of date: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/
14:11:57 [Yves]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/detected.xsl
14:12:16 [pauld]
gcowe: looks different to the detector used by the collection
14:14:00 [pauld]
pauld: collection uses a different stylesheet, ant: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/build.xml
14:14:05 [Yves]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/test.html
14:14:15 [Yves]
is the right page
14:15:30 [Yves]
so http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/results.xsl and http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/patternsdetector.xsl
14:16:02 [pauld]
ACTION: pdowney to investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML
14:16:02 [trackbot-ng]
Created ACTION-131 - Investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML [on Paul Downey - due 2008-04-15].
14:17:13 [pauld]
Topic: ISSUE-2: test suite
14:17:48 [pauld]
gcowe: been helping Adrian re-run WCF and BEA
14:18:04 [pauld]
.. still issues with running WCF, Adrian is investigating
14:18:46 [pauld]
gcowe: XBinder submitted testcases, but had issues with echo WSDL and schemas. I've corrected the stylesheet and put back into CVS
14:19:14 [pauld]
.. had issues with the CVS version
14:19:22 [pauld]
yves: will investigate
14:20:53 [pauld]
gcowe: excluded test cases were the issue
14:21:25 [pauld]
pauld: I was happy for us to ignore those cases, but cool if you've fixed them
14:23:13 [pauld]
pauld: I still have to rerun my tests
14:24:25 [pauld]
Topic: Identifier Names
14:24:31 [pauld]
pauld: this was ISSUE-10
14:24:49 [pauld]
gcowe: been looking (again) at the simple test cases: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/testsuite/documents/names/
14:25:29 [pauld]
pauld: I think the issue you were interested in was the length, beyond 32
14:26:30 [pauld]
pauld: the way we're geared up, we could end up with 1000's of examples if we're not careful
14:28:10 [pauld]
pauld: suggest creating a few test cases, long names being one
14:29:38 [pauld]
gcowe: will create those examples
14:29:58 [pauld]
Topic: Moving Forward for Advanced
14:30:30 [pauld]
pauld: we need to move Advanced forward. Collection is key to this.
14:32:00 [pauld]
pauld: Think we need to timebox this activity - maybe next couple of months ticking off the collection
14:33:11 [pauld]
gcowe: Origo schemas are now all Advanced, mainly due to xs:choice
14:34:34 [pauld]
.. things are improving, really having a problem with maxOccurs, maybe we could revisit that
14:36:02 [pauld]
pauld: my issue is how as a working group we process and accept Advanced patterns into the spec
14:37:20 [pauld]
pauld: suggesting we allow editors to add patterns to patterns.xml, so long as they are "advanced" and we'll consolidate and review before progressing the document
14:37:47 [pauld]
pauld: so just take care to add sensible patterns!
14:40:50 [Zakim]
-pauld
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-George_Cowe
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-Yves
14:40:54 [pauld]
pauld: we'll pickup in two weeks time
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WS_DBWG()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were George_Cowe, +0791888aaaa, pauld, Yves
14:41:02 [pauld]
rrsagent, genetate minutes
14:41:02 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'genetate minutes', pauld. Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:41:13 [pauld]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-databinding-minutes.html pauld
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rrsagent, make logs public
14:41:50 [gcowe]
Yves - thats fixed the echo examples problem!
14:42:34 [Yves]
good! strange it didn't work last time
14:42:45 [Yves]
I did it on another machine, so that might explain :/
14:43:00 [gcowe]
keep using that machine!!!
14:43:06 [Yves]
:)
14:43:14 [gcowe]
thanks.
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