IRC log of databinding on 2008-04-08

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Zakim, this will be DBWG

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ok, trackbot-ng; I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

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Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 08 April 2008

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+George_Cowe

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14:01:51 [pauld]

zakim, code?

14:01:52 [Zakim]

the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), pauld

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+ +0791888aaaa

14:02:20 [pauld]

zakim, aaaa is me

14:02:21 [Zakim]

+pauld; got it

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+Yves

14:03:21 [pauld]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Apr/0000.html

14:04:03 [pauld]

thanks Yves for handling publication!

14:04:28 [pauld]

http://www.w3.org/News/2008#item56

14:07:52 [pauld]

gcowe: going to talk to the XForms WG about our publication

14:09:37 [pauld]

gcowe: added the annotation to the detector source code, in offline version, and an online version on the Origo site

14:11:26 [Yves]

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/patternsdetector.xsl

14:11:35 [pauld]

yves: w3c service uses the stylesheet directly

14:11:50 [pauld]

pauld: our page is out of date: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/

14:11:57 [Yves]

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/detected.xsl

14:12:16 [pauld]

gcowe: looks different to the detector used by the collection

14:14:00 [pauld]

pauld: collection uses a different stylesheet, ant: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/build.xml

14:14:05 [Yves]

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/test.html

14:14:15 [Yves]

is the right page

14:15:30 [Yves]

so http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/results.xsl and http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/patternsdetector.xsl

14:16:02 [pauld]

ACTION: pdowney to investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML

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Created ACTION-131 - Investigate using detector stylesheet to optionally generate annotated HTML [on Paul Downey - due 2008-04-15].

14:17:13 [pauld]

Topic: ISSUE-2: test suite

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gcowe: been helping Adrian re-run WCF and BEA

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.. still issues with running WCF, Adrian is investigating

14:18:46 [pauld]

gcowe: XBinder submitted testcases, but had issues with echo WSDL and schemas. I've corrected the stylesheet and put back into CVS

14:19:14 [pauld]

.. had issues with the CVS version

14:19:22 [pauld]

yves: will investigate

14:20:53 [pauld]

gcowe: excluded test cases were the issue

14:21:25 [pauld]

pauld: I was happy for us to ignore those cases, but cool if you've fixed them

14:23:13 [pauld]

pauld: I still have to rerun my tests

14:24:25 [pauld]

Topic: Identifier Names

14:24:31 [pauld]

pauld: this was ISSUE-10

14:24:49 [pauld]

gcowe: been looking (again) at the simple test cases: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/testsuite/documents/names/

14:25:29 [pauld]

pauld: I think the issue you were interested in was the length, beyond 32

14:26:30 [pauld]

pauld: the way we're geared up, we could end up with 1000's of examples if we're not careful

14:28:10 [pauld]

pauld: suggest creating a few test cases, long names being one

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gcowe: will create those examples

14:29:58 [pauld]

Topic: Moving Forward for Advanced

14:30:30 [pauld]

pauld: we need to move Advanced forward. Collection is key to this.

14:32:00 [pauld]

pauld: Think we need to timebox this activity - maybe next couple of months ticking off the collection

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gcowe: Origo schemas are now all Advanced, mainly due to xs:choice

14:34:34 [pauld]

.. things are improving, really having a problem with maxOccurs, maybe we could revisit that

14:36:02 [pauld]

pauld: my issue is how as a working group we process and accept Advanced patterns into the spec

14:37:20 [pauld]

pauld: suggesting we allow editors to add patterns to patterns.xml, so long as they are "advanced" and we'll consolidate and review before progressing the document

14:37:47 [pauld]

pauld: so just take care to add sensible patterns!

14:40:50 [Zakim]

-pauld

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-George_Cowe

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-Yves

14:40:54 [pauld]

pauld: we'll pickup in two weeks time

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Attendees were George_Cowe, +0791888aaaa, pauld, Yves

14:41:02 [pauld]

rrsagent, genetate minutes

14:41:02 [RRSAgent]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'genetate minutes', pauld. Try /msg RRSAgent help

14:41:13 [pauld]

rrsagent, generate minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/08-databinding-minutes.html pauld

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rrsagent, make logs public

14:41:50 [gcowe]

Yves - thats fixed the echo examples problem!

14:42:34 [Yves]

good! strange it didn't work last time

14:42:45 [Yves]

I did it on another machine, so that might explain :/

14:43:00 [gcowe]

keep using that machine!!!

14:43:06 [Yves]

:)

14:43:14 [gcowe]

thanks.

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