IRC log of bpwg on 2008-04-03

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13:59:17 [francois]

trackbot-ng, start telcon

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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Zakim, this will be BPWG

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ok, trackbot-ng; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

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Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 03 April 2008

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Chair: jo

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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Zakim, this will be BPWG

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ok, trackbot-ng; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

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Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 03 April 2008

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Apr/0002.html

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14:00:20 [Magnus]

zakim, code?

14:00:20 [Zakim]

the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Magnus

14:00:31 [Zakim]

MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has now started

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+ +46.3.17.47.aaaa

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+ +1.585.278.aabb

14:00:49 [Magnus]

zakim, +46 is me

14:00:50 [Zakim]

+Magnus; got it

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+ +0208995aacc

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+ +0207881aadd

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zakim aabb is jeffs

14:01:12 [dom]

[I'll join the call in ~30 minutes, sorry about the delay]

14:01:15 [Zakim]

+francois

14:01:23 [dom]

zakim, aabb is jeffs

14:01:23 [Zakim]

+jeffs; got it

14:01:25 [francois]

zakim, who's on the call?

14:01:25 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Magnus, jeffs, +0207881aadd, +0208995aacc, francois

14:01:29 [jo]

zakim, aacc is me

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+jo; got it

14:01:42 [adam]

zakim, aadd is me

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+adam; got it

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+??P33

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+ +0783371aaee

14:02:35 [yeliz]

zakim, ??P33 is yeliz

14:02:35 [Zakim]

+yeliz; got it

14:02:49 [drooks]

zakim, +0783371aaee is drooks

14:02:49 [Zakim]

+drooks; got it

14:02:59 [francois]

Regrets: rob, SeanP, Bryan, AlanTai, hgerlach, Sonnho, EdM, Shahriar, chaals

14:03:04 [Zakim]

+ +0777613aaff

14:03:04 [yeliz]

zakim, mute yeliz

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yeliz should now be muted

14:03:13 [MartinJ]

zakim, aaff is me

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+MartinJ; got it

14:04:35 [adam]

zakim, mute me

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adam should now be muted

14:04:52 [Zakim]

+[CTIC]

14:05:01 [jo]

zakim, pick a victim

14:05:02 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose adam (muted)

14:05:07 [adam]

okay

14:05:21 [jo]

scribe: Adam

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ScribeNick: adam

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Topic: DDR Simple API

14:06:01 [jo]

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/DDWG/drafts/api/latest DDR Simple API

14:06:01 [francois]

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/DDWG/drafts/api/latest DDR Simple API latest draft

14:06:02 [Zakim]

+Sean_Owen

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jo: Rotan has requested review from BPWG

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+Kai_Dietrich

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14:06:30 [miguel]

Zakim, [CTIC] is me

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+miguel; got it

14:06:43 [adam]

jo: Document is going immediately to last call, looking for comments, support, questions...?

14:06:51 [adam]

jo: no.

14:06:57 [adam]

Topic: Reports from BP Pro

14:07:05 [francois]

zakim, who's on the phone?

14:07:05 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Magnus, jeffs (muted), adam (muted), jo, francois, yeliz (muted), drooks, MartinJ, miguel, Sean_Owen, Kai_Dietrich

14:07:10 [adam]

kai

14:07:20 [jo]

s/BP Pro/mobileOK Pro/

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14:07:47 [adam]

kai: status-- zero feedback. revising tests... reworking to get more repeatable results. first ten reworked are in latest version of doc.

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kai: working through remaining ten now.

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Topic: Checker

14:08:20 [miguel_]

Zakim, abel is with me

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sorry, miguel_, I do not recognize a party named 'miguel_'

14:08:35 [adam]

sean: nothing much to report. fixing bugs.

14:08:45 [adam]

sean: please look at it now, too late to send comments two weeks from now.

14:09:07 [adam]

jo: is there anything to say about rate that bugs are being reported? are they dropping off?

14:09:23 [adam]

sean: yeah, it's pretty well baked.

14:09:39 [adam]

kai: do you have feeling on what people are doing with checker ? is it being used ?

14:09:51 [miguel_]

/msg nickserv ghost miguel

14:09:52 [adam]

sean: stats indicate some usage, not sure how much.

14:10:20 [jo]

zakim, abel is with miguel

14:10:20 [Zakim]

+abel; got it

14:10:27 [adam]

Topic: CT

14:11:08 [adam]

jo: were going to have extended discussion but jo is still working through spec document. Heads up that we will want to make a resolution to FPWD next wk.

14:11:21 [abel]

zakim, manrique is with me

14:11:21 [Zakim]

sorry, abel, I do not recognize a party named 'abel'

14:12:11 [adam]

jo: it's yet another doc that requires you review, there has been a lot of activity and we need to get this out.

14:12:18 [adam]

Topic: Accessibility.

14:13:10 [adam]

jo: Alan is not on the call so will have to set this discussion aside for now.

14:14:13 [francois]

zakim, abel holds abel, manrique

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sorry, francois, I do not recognize a party named 'abel'

14:14:19 [adam]

Topic: BP2

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jo: Proposing to go to FPWG of BP2 next wk. To shake out early discussion of the points.

14:14:58 [srowen]

q+

14:15:07 [adam]

jo: Still lots of points of potential disagreement, but does no harm to get it out there.

14:15:21 [miguel_]

Zakim, miguel is me

14:15:21 [Zakim]

+miguel_; got it

14:15:33 [miguel_]

Zakim, manrique is with me

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+manrique; got it

14:15:40 [adam]

srowen: usually in favour of getting feedback. But there are still a number of things out of scope. Concerned that this is still too far from what we want to publish to make it public right now.

14:15:53 [miguel_]

Zakim, nacho is with me

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+nacho; got it

14:16:15 [adam]

srowen: Would like to discuss on application related points and if they're in scope.

14:16:38 [adam]

jo: inclined to agree on points but we should continue discussion on list since Bryan isn't here.

14:16:42 [jeffs]

note: corrected example code for 5.9.4 and 5.9.5 out to bryan for insertion (email system munged formating)

14:16:59 [adam]

Topic: Actions and Issues

14:17:03 [jeffs]

he will insert when returns from vacation

14:17:26 [adam]

jo: Not going to do this today, going to come up with a new process instead. Heads up that we will try and do this in a less boring way in future.

14:18:01 [adam]

Topic: AOB

14:18:39 [adam]

jo: A reminder that there are several documents we need to review. The documents are listed on our homepage under actions.

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-drooks

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-Magnus

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-Sean_Owen

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-MartinJ

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-jo

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abel has left #bpwg

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-francois

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-adam

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-jeffs

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-Kai_Dietrich

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manrique has left #bpwg

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-miguel_

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14:20:11 [francois]

zakim, list attendees

14:20:11 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been +46.3.17.47.aaaa, +1.585.278.aabb, Magnus, +0208995aacc, +0207881aadd, francois, jeffs, jo, adam, yeliz, drooks, +0777613aaff, MartinJ,

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... Sean_Owen, Kai_Dietrich, abel, miguel_, manrique, nacho

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-yeliz

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MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended

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RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-bpwg-minutes.html francois

14:20:17 [dom]

Regrets+ Dom

14:20:18 [Zakim]

Attendees were +46.3.17.47.aaaa, +1.585.278.aabb, Magnus, +0208995aacc, +0207881aadd, francois, jeffs, jo, adam, yeliz, drooks, +0777613aaff, MartinJ, Sean_Owen, Kai_Dietrich,

14:20:20 [Zakim]

... abel, miguel_, manrique, nacho

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RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-bpwg-minutes.html dom

14:20:34 [francois]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-bpwg-minutes.html francois

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+??P8

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-??P8

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MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were

14:46:12 [achuter]

OK.

14:46:14 [jo]

zakim, bye

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14:46:39 [jo]

rrsagent, bye

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I see no action items