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08:31:25 <Kai> Zakim, this is conference mobileOK Pro Task Force
08:31:25 <Zakim> sorry, Kai, I do not see a conference named 'conference mobileOK Pro Task Force' in progress or scheduled at this time
08:31:48 <Kai> Zakim, this conference is mobileOK Pro Task Force
08:31:48 <Zakim> sorry, Kai, I do not see a conference named 'mobileOK Pro Task Force' in progress or scheduled at this time
08:32:24 <Kai> Zakim, this is mobileOK Pro Task Force
08:32:24 <Zakim> sorry, Kai, I do not see a conference named 'mobileOK Pro Task Force' in progress or scheduled at this time
08:33:15 <francois> trackbot-ng, start telcon
08:33:18 <trackbot-ng> RRSAgent, make logs public
08:33:20 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be BPWG
08:33:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng, I see MWI_BPWG(BPPRO)4:30AM already started
08:33:21 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
08:33:21 <trackbot-ng> Date: 02 April 2008
08:34:18 <Kai> Chair: Kai
08:35:03 <Kai> Topic:  Rework of tests for repeatability
08:35:13 <Kai> ScribeNick: Kai
08:35:22 <Kai> 04 01Topic:  Rework of tests for repeatability
08:35:50 <Kai> We forgot last time to assign actions to people for the tests to be reworked.
08:36:23 <Kai> Alan Tests 4.13 - 4.14 
08:36:23 <Kai> Dave Tests 4.15 - 4.20 
08:36:23 <Kai> Alan Tests 4.21 - 4.22 
08:36:23 <Kai> Kai Tests 4.23 - 4.26 
08:36:23 <Kai> Phil Tests 4.27 - 4.31
08:36:35 <Kai> Alan has done his already.
08:37:05 <Kai> ACTION:  drooks to rework tests 4.15 - 4.20
08:37:06 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-726 - Rework tests 4.15 - 4.20 [on David Rooks - due 2008-04-09].
08:37:35 <Kai> ACTION: Kai to rework tests 4.23 - 4.26
08:37:36 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-727 - Rework tests 4.23 - 4.26 [on Kai Scheppe - due 2008-04-09].
08:38:08 <Kai> ACTION: Phil to rework tests 4.27 - 4.31
08:38:09 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-728 - Rework tests 4.27 - 4.31 [on Phil Archer - due 2008-04-09].
08:38:19 <Zakim> +??P2
08:38:29 <achuter> zakim, ??P2 is is me
08:38:29 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P2 is is me', achuter
08:39:20 <achuter> zakim, ??P2 is me
08:39:20 <Zakim> +achuter; got it
08:39:22 <Kai> ACTION: Alan to rework tests 4.21 - 4.22 and 4.13 - 4.14
08:39:22 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Alan
08:39:22 <trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. achuter, atai)
08:39:38 <Kai> 04 01ACTION: achuter to rework tests 4.21 - 4.22 and 4.13 - 4.14
08:40:02 <Kai> ..well, Zakim?
08:40:38 <Kai> ACTION: achuter to rework tests 4.21 - 4.22 and 4.13 - 4.14
08:40:39 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-729 - Rework tests 4.21 - 4.22 and 4.13 - 4.14 [on Alan Chuter - due 2008-04-09].
08:41:08 <Kai> close ACTION-729
08:41:09 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-729 Rework tests 4.21 - 4.22 and 4.13 - 4.14 closed
08:52:09 <Kai> Thanks Alan for having done his tests already.
08:52:41 <Kai> I wonder, in test 4.23, if we can really use the tests from UWEM because they are not W3C docs
08:52:50 <Kai> ...can we make this normative?  I don't think so.
08:53:19 <Kai> I also wonder if we should include the full detail of these tests
08:53:44 <Kai> Alan: well, at least for those non-text alternative that would be needed on mobile device
08:53:54 <Kai> That seems to be most, as defined in WCAG
08:55:20 <Kai> could we "plagarize" the tests from UWEM, and of course give proper credit?
08:55:42 <Kai> Alan:  I think we could.  The European Commision created this project.
08:56:17 <Kai> Alan, did you use other reference like this in your tests?
08:56:28 <Kai> Alan, not really.  not as much as in this one.
08:56:36 <Kai> s/Alan,/Alan:
08:58:32 <Kai> Alan: There is also a sampling scheme in UWEM
08:58:43 <Kai> Could you adapt that for mobileOK Pro?
08:58:56 <Kai> Alan:  Yes.  I have an action on this anyway.
09:00:02 <Kai> zakim, who is here?
09:00:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see +0496151aaaa, berrueta, achuter
09:00:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Kai, manrique, francois, achuter, trackbot-ng, dom
09:02:33 <Zakim> -achuter
09:02:35 <Zakim> - +0496151aaaa
09:02:47 <Kai> rrsagent, make logs
09:02:47 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make logs', Kai.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
09:02:53 <Zakim> -berrueta
09:02:54 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG(BPPRO)4:30AM has ended
09:02:56 <Zakim> Attendees were +0496151aaaa, berrueta, achuter
09:03:02 <Kai> rrsagent, make logs public
09:03:10 <Kai> rrsagen, draft minutes
09:03:17 <Kai> rrsagent, draft minutes
09:03:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-bpwg-minutes.html Kai
09:06:18 <Kai> zakim, bye
09:06:18 <Zakim> Zakim has left #bpwg
09:06:23 <Kai> rrsagent, bye
09:06:23 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-bpwg-actions.rdf :
09:06:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: drooks to rework tests 4.15 - 4.20 [1]
09:06:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-bpwg-irc#T08-37-05
09:06:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kai to rework tests 4.23 - 4.26 [2]
09:06:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-bpwg-irc#T08-37-35
09:06:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Phil to rework tests 4.27 - 4.31 [3]
09:06:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-bpwg-irc#T08-38-08
09:06:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alan to rework tests 4.21 - 4.22 and 4.13 - 4.14 [4]
09:06:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-bpwg-irc#T08-39-22
09:06:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: achuter to rework tests 4.21 - 4.22 and 4.13 - 4.14 [5]
09:06:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-bpwg-irc#T08-40-38