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12:17:06 <Christophe> zakim, what conferences?
12:17:06 <Zakim> I see ARCH_Team()8:00AM, UW_Team()8:00AM active
12:17:07 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are IA_CDFWG()8:30AM, WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM
12:17:18 <Christophe> zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
12:17:18 <Zakim> ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
12:17:29 <Christophe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Mar/0019.html
12:17:42 <Christophe> Agenda+ Review of test samples
12:17:51 <Christophe> Agenda+ Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata
12:18:00 <Christophe> Agenda+ Next steps for current repository content
12:18:10 <Christophe> Agenda+ Review of action items
12:18:29 <Christophe> Chairs: CarlosV, Christophe
12:18:52 <Christophe> Meeting: TSD TF
12:30:03 <shadi> zakim, code?
12:30:03 <Zakim> the conference code is 8783 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
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12:30:38 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
12:30:45 <Zakim> +Shadi
12:32:16 <Zakim> +??P7
12:32:38 <Christophe> zakim, ??p7 is Christophe_Strobbe
12:32:38 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe; got it
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12:35:10 <Zakim> +Carlos_Iglesias
12:36:01 <Zakim> -Carlos_Iglesias
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12:37:24 <Zakim> +Carlos_Iglesias
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12:38:56 <Zakim> +Cooper
12:41:07 <shadi> scribe: Shadi
12:41:13 <shadi> agenda?
12:41:20 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 1
12:41:20 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Review of test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
12:41:43 <Christophe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Jan/0009.html
12:43:34 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/process
12:45:09 <shadi> CS: as per Tim's comments, may be worth clarifying the scope of the strcuture review
12:45:34 <shadi> ...propose to swap "Metadata" and "Test Files" in the checklist section
12:45:41 <shadi> [no disagreement]
12:45:59 <shadi> RESOLUTION: swap "Metadata" and "Test Files" in the checklist section
12:46:08 <shadi> action: CS swap "Metadata" and "Test Files" in the checklist section
12:47:18 <shadi> CS: WCAG naming convention for levels changed from 1-2-3 to A-AA-AAA
12:49:38 <shadi> SAZ: don't see this as a particular issue
12:50:23 <shadi> MC: don't have strong preferences
12:51:02 <shadi> CI: could be lot's of work without added benefits, i can live with 1-2-3
12:52:34 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL#naming
12:53:43 <shadi> RESOLUTION: add a note in the naming convention about 1-2-3 to A-AA-AAA mapping, and change the HTML-view script accordingly
12:53:52 <shadi> action: CS add a note in the naming convention about 1-2-3 to A-AA-AAA mapping, and change the HTML-view script accordingly
12:56:35 <shadi> CS: structure review checklist doesn't tell you where to find the infomation
12:58:36 <shadi> ...for example Name & e-mail of the submitter is in the wiki, not in the metadata
12:59:45 <shadi> CI: the guidance talks primarily about the metadata, so it is not clear that some information is in the wiki
13:06:06 <shadi> RESOLUTION: add a brief sentence after or as part of the sub-headings to describe where the information can be found
13:06:19 <Christophe> 3 headings:  Contact Information (available in Wiki);   Metadata (in metadata folder);   Test Files (in testfiles folder)
13:06:49 <shadi> action: CS add a brief sentence after or as part of the sub-headings to describe where the information can be found
13:11:58 <shadi> action: CS take a stab at rearranging the list items to better match their sections
13:16:23 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
13:18:43 <shadi> agenda?
13:18:53 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 2
13:18:53 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata" taken up [from Christophe]
13:20:05 <Christophe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Feb/0010.html
13:20:37 <shadi> CS: there was a request in the past to use the WCAG IDs rather than the SC numbers in the naming convention
13:21:07 <shadi> ...also looking around to see if there are other issues with the naming convention
13:21:59 <Christophe> Regrets: CarlosV
13:22:31 <shadi> MC: metadata in the filenames are always tricky
13:22:55 <shadi> ...don't feel too strongly about it, but can't guarantee SC numbers will remain even after CR
13:23:16 <shadi> ...IDs are probably more stable
13:23:39 <shadi> ...not sure about the impact though
13:24:04 <shadi> CI: whatever is not stable, is not good in the future
13:24:28 <shadi> ...my feeling is that SCs are quite stable at the moment
13:24:41 <shadi> ...even if some changes happen, probably not too much
13:25:09 <shadi> ...more in favor for leaving as is, but can live with something else
13:25:34 <shadi> MC: content of SCs is pretty stable but the numbering should not be considered stable
13:30:39 <shadi> SAZ: need to look at how this will impact scripts etc
13:31:07 <shadi> ...on the other hand, we may not be able to adopt the BenToWeb scripts anyway
13:31:52 <shadi> CS: rulesets.xml doesn't autmatically show you the test suite
13:32:15 <shadi> ...we could work in the test suite ID into the new naming convention
13:33:14 <shadi> action: CS send a proposal for a new naming convention to the list for discussion
13:34:41 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
13:34:42 <Zakim> -Cooper
13:34:45 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
13:34:49 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:34:54 <shadi> next meeting: 8 april
13:35:20 <Zakim> -Carlos_Iglesias
13:35:21 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
13:35:22 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe, Carlos_Iglesias, Cooper, Tim_Boland
13:36:04 <shadi> zakim, bye
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13:36:09 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:36:13 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
13:36:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
13:36:15 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:36:31 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
13:36:31 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
13:36:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS swap "Metadata" and "Test Files" in the checklist section [1]
13:36:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-tsdtf-irc#T12-46-08
13:36:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS add a note in the naming convention about 1-2-3 to A-AA-AAA mapping, and change the HTML-view script accordingly [2]
13:36:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-tsdtf-irc#T12-53-52
13:36:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS add a brief sentence after or as part of the sub-headings to describe where the information can be found [3]
13:36:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-tsdtf-irc#T13-06-49
13:36:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS take a stab at rearranging the list items to better match their sections [4]
13:36:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-tsdtf-irc#T13-11-58
13:36:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS send a proposal for a new naming convention to the list for discussion [5]
13:36:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/01-tsdtf-irc#T13-33-14