IRC log of wai-wcag on 2008-03-27
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-wai-wcag-irc
- 19:12:58 [MichaelC]
- rrsagent, make log world
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- meeting: WAI_WCAG
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- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/824e742c0803251843j4c9813e4rd002b47a2fa2f1c7@mail.gmail.com
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- agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- agenda+ Teitac Harmonization Proposals for 20 Mar 2008 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080320teitac/results
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 27 Mar 2008 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080327misc/results
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- agenda+ Discussion of "At Risk" for CR
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- rrsagent, pointer?
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- See http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-wai-wcag-irc#T19-49-38
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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- + +1.206.246.aaaa
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- +[IBM]
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- + +1.617.219.aabb
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- +Cooper
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- +Don
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- +??P4
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- zakim, ??P4 is Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- +??P6
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- + +1.240.855.aacc
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- + +0321632aadd
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- zakim, +032 is Christophe_Strobbe
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- +Christophe_Strobbe; got it
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- +[Gallaudet]
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- + +61.3.987.9.aaee
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- zakim, +61 is Sofia_Celic
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- +Sofia_Celic; got it
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- +SeanH
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- +Cynthia_Shelly
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- +??P13
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- zakim, ??P13 is David_MacDonald
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- +David_MacDonald; got it
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- q+
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- q-
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- +??P14
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- Zakim, ??P14 is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- sorry for the delay
- 20:17:03 [MichaelC]
- scribe: Sofia
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- ack b
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- take up item 1
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 20:20:47 [Loretta]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080320teitac/
- 20:28:41 [Sofia]
- zakim, close agendum 1
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- agendum 1, Announcements, Questions, and Updates, closed
- 20:28:42 [Zakim]
- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 20:28:44 [Zakim]
- 2. Teitac Harmonization Proposals for 20 Mar 2008 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080320teitac/results [from MichaelC]
- 20:28:55 [Sofia]
- zakim, take up item 2
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- agendum 2. "Teitac Harmonization Proposals for 20 Mar 2008 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080320teitac/results" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- TOPIC: Audio equivalent for video-only content
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:54:44 [Sofia]
- RESOLUTION: accept an editor's clean up of Christophe's version with additional removed
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- Topic: Wording of SC 1.3.3 (Sensory Characteristics)
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- q+
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- RESOLUTION: keep current SC 1.3.3
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- Topic: Definition of Relative Luminance
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- RESOLUTION: accept proposed as amended by Sean
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- Topic: Definition of General Flash and Red Flash Thresholds
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- +??P1
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- RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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- Topic: Wording of SC 1.4.3 and 1.4.6 (Contrast)
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- ack a
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- ack a
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- q+
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- ack l
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- g+
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- q+
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- ack g
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- +[IBM]
- 21:16:53 [Ben]
- The visual presentation of text and images of text have a contrast ratio of at least 5:1, except for the following:
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- this is for both 1.4.3 and 1.4.6
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- RESOLUTION: accept as proposed with first sentence amended as follows: "The visual presentation of text and images of text have a contrast ratio of at least 5:1, except for the following:"
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- Topic: Wording of SC 2.2.2 (Pausing)
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- -Don
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- 2.2.2 tabled till later
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- Topic: Wording of SC 3.3.1 (Error Identification)
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- zme
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- RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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- -David_MacDonald
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- Topic: Wording of SC 4.1.2 (Name, Role, Value)
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- +??P7
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- RESOLUTION: accept as amended by Bruce
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- UC: 2356, 2389, 2393, 2595
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 27 Mar 2008 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080327misc/results" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- RESOLUTION: UC: 2356, 2389, 2393, 2595 accepted by unanimous consent as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2421: Conformance Level wrong for SC 2.2.2
- 21:33:33 [Sofia]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 21:34:06 [Zakim]
- Sofia, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregg_Vanderheiden (40%), Cooper (27%)
- 21:34:27 [Christophe]
- zakim, who's next to their washing machine?
- 21:34:27 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, Christophe.
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- q+
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- ack l
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- q+
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- ack d
- 21:44:30 [David_MacDonald]
- zakim, mute me
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- David_MacDonald should now be muted
- 21:46:49 [Loretta]
- Ben, will you take the five second phrase out of the auto-updating clause, too?
- 21:49:14 [awk]
- going off the call for 5 min to switch locations. Will call in from cell.
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- -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
- 21:51:16 [Loretta]
- We probably want to make the clause structures parallel, too, but that is strictly editorial.
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- + +1.617.584.aaff
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- -David_MacDonald
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- RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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- +Don
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- Topic: Issue 2390: accessibility of social networking site content
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- RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4. "Discussion of "At Risk" for CR" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Cooper
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- - +1.617.584.aaff
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- -Don
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- -SeanH
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- Zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.206.246.aaaa, +1.617.219.aabb, Cooper, Don, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Ben_Caldwell, Chris_Brownrigg,
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- ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, +1.240.855.aacc, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bruce_Bailey, +0321632aadd, Christophe_Strobbe, Gregg_Vanderheiden, +61.3.987.9.aaee, Alex_Li, SeanH, Cynthia_Shelly,
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- ... David_MacDonald, Roberto_Ellero, Nikolaos_Floratos, +1.617.584.aaff
- 22:23:01 [Ben]
- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see no action items