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23:07:11 Zakim, this will be HTML
23:07:11 ok, trackbot-ng, I see HTML_WG()7:00PM already started
23:07:12 Meeting: HTML Issue Tracking Teleconference
23:07:12 Date: 27 March 2008
23:07:14 Zakim, code?
23:07:14 the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MikeSmith
23:07:43 +[IPcaller]
23:08:00 Laura - you calling in?
23:08:18 Zakim, IPCaller is MikeSmith
23:08:18 +MikeSmith; got it
23:08:50 Yeah. I'll call in.
23:08:55 OK
23:10:20 + +1.715.398.aaaa
23:10:41 - +1.715.398.aaaa
23:10:52 trackbot-ng, status?
23:11:25 working thru action items pending review:
23:11:34 scribenick: MikeSmith
23:11:38 action-50: separate email list
23:11:38 scribe: MikeSmith
23:11:39 + +1.715.398.aabb
23:11:45 action-50?
23:11:45 ACTION-50 -- Dan Connolly to investigate separate mailing list on cavas/2d-graphics API with Doug S. and Chris W. -- due 2008-02-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:11:45 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/50
23:12:00 - +1.715.398.aabb
23:12:18 Zakim, +1.715.398.aabb is Laura
23:12:18 sorry, MikeSmith, I do not recognize a party named '+1.715.398.aabb'
23:12:41 close action-50
23:12:41 ACTION-50 Investigate separate mailing list on cavas/2d-graphics API with Doug S. and Chris W. closed
23:12:51 (list has been created)
23:13:03 action-52?
23:13:03 ACTION-52 -- Anne van Kesteren to bring summary of where the Forms TF is and recommendation for action to HTML WG -- due 2008-02-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:13:03 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/52
23:13:11 + +1.715.398.aacc
23:13:27 Zakim, +1.715.398.aacc is Laura
23:13:27 +Laura; got it
23:13:42 Zakim, mute me
23:13:42 MikeSmith should now be muted
23:14:18 ChrisWilson : there has been no follow-up to anne's summary e-mail
23:14:38 Zakim, unmute me
23:14:38 MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:14:42 (that is, no further emails since the charter discussion)
23:15:25 ... his recommendation is that if nothing has happened by July 2008, then we just revert to the HTML WG owns forms in HTML and the Forms WG owns forms as a standalone
23:15:39 This seems reasonable to all on the call
23:15:40 ChrisWilson : So I think his recommended course of action is good.
23:15:50 close action-52
23:15:50 ACTION-52 Bring summary of where the Forms TF is and recommendation for action to HTML WG closed
23:16:03 Zakim, mute me
23:16:03 MikeSmith should now be muted
23:16:03 action-53?
23:16:03 ACTION-53 -- Dan Connolly to check for offline api stuff in WebAPI proposed charter -- due 2008-02-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:16:03 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/53
23:16:06 FWIW, Ian Hickson would like explicit consent from the Forms WG that they're ok with us working on forms again, as I understand it.
23:16:16 i don't mind
23:16:40 Zakim, unmute me
23:16:40 MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:16:40 i just want to make sure that i don't start integrating wf2 into html5 only later to be told that it needs to all be undone and turned into xforms
23:16:55 if the group decides that wf2 is fine and we're not going to try to use xforms, that works too
23:16:59 (the group = htmlwg)
23:17:30 k
23:17:47 action: Chris Wilson to follow up with Forms WG to make sure they understand this plan of action by 5/1/2008
23:17:47 Created ACTION-56 - Wilson to follow up with Forms WG to make sure they understand this plan of action by 5/1/2008 [on Chris Wilson - due 2008-04-03].
23:18:41 noted. I'll make sure that we follow up with them.
23:19:00 we are trying to work together here, but we do want to eventually ship html5. With forms.
23:19:50 indeed
23:20:10 certainly, since they are forms experts, their input can only make the spec better
23:20:24 it is unfortunate that they have not been forthcoming with feedback so far
23:20:35 Mike: not going to have mention of offline apps in webapi charter
23:22:04 I want this ot be discussed in the hypertext cg, so I'm keeping the action pending review.
23:22:18 action-54?
23:22:18 ACTION-54 -- Gregory Rosmaita to work with SteveF draft text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements -- due 2008-04-02 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:22:18 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/54
23:24:23 Waiting on input from PF group. Reopened, moved to 2 weeks from today.
23:24:52 Zakim, mute me
23:24:52 MikeSmith should now be muted
23:25:33 Zakim, unmute me
23:25:33 MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:25:37 can't seem to re-open the action, it stays as pending review. Oh well.
23:26:09 3
23:26:13 whoops.
23:26:44 overdue action items: large number on Dan, moving them to next week.
23:26:50 action-8?
23:26:50 ACTION-8 -- Michael Cooper to discuss with PFWG role attribute vs aria attribute -- due 2008-02-21 -- OPEN
23:26:50 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/8
23:27:21 I believe this is resolved, but needs a pointer to the spec.
23:27:49 Zakim, mute me
23:27:49 MikeSmith should now be muted
23:27:53 Gregory isn't around, so skipping action-23
23:28:02 action-40?
23:28:02 ACTION-40 -- Michael(tm) Smith to add links on HTML WG home page to mechanism for watching changes to the HTML5 spec -- due 2008-02-21 -- OPEN
23:28:02 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/40
23:28:07 Zakim, unmute me
23:28:07 MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:28:57 action-40?
23:28:57 ACTION-40 -- Michael(tm) Smith to add links on HTML WG home page to mechanism for watching changes to the HTML5 spec -- due 2008-04-03 -- OPEN
23:28:57 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/40
23:29:55 motion to adjourn?
23:30:04 any new business from IRC?
23:30:26 no objections, ADJOURNED
23:30:41 -[Microsoft]
23:30:44 -Laura
23:30:46 -MikeSmith
23:30:46 HTML_WG()7:00PM has ended
23:30:47 Attendees were [Microsoft], MikeSmith, +1.715.398.aaaa, +1.715.398.aabb, Laura
23:30:57 Whoops, Microsoft was me
23:32:19 Laura has joined #html-wg
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23:45:20 Hi Mr Microsoft!
23:45:24 :P
23:45:50 trackbot-ng, end meeting
23:45:50 Zakim, list attendees
23:45:50 sorry, trackbot-ng, I don't know what conference this is
23:45:51 RRSAgent, please draft minutes
23:45:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot-ng
23:45:52 RRSAgent, bye
23:45:52 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-html-wg-actions.rdf :
23:45:52 ACTION: Chris Wilson to follow up with Forms WG to make sure they understand this plan of action by 5/1/2008 [1]
23:45:52 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-html-wg-irc#T23-17-47