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23:07:11 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be HTML
23:07:11 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng, I see HTML_WG()7:00PM already started
23:07:12 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: HTML Issue Tracking Teleconference
23:07:12 <trackbot-ng> Date: 27 March 2008
23:07:14 <MikeSmith> Zakim, code?
23:07:14 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MikeSmith
23:07:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
23:08:00 <MikeSmith> Laura - you calling in?
23:08:18 <ChrisWilson> Zakim, IPCaller is MikeSmith
23:08:18 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
23:08:50 <Laura> Yeah. I'll call in.
23:08:55 <MikeSmith> OK
23:10:20 <Zakim> + +1.715.398.aaaa
23:10:41 <Zakim> - +1.715.398.aaaa
23:10:52 <MikeSmith> trackbot-ng, status?
23:11:25 <ChrisWilson> working thru action items pending review:
23:11:34 <MikeSmith> scribenick: MikeSmith 
23:11:38 <ChrisWilson> action-50: separate email list
23:11:38 <MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith 
23:11:39 <Zakim> + +1.715.398.aabb
23:11:45 <MikeSmith> action-50?
23:11:45 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-50 -- Dan Connolly to investigate separate mailing list on cavas/2d-graphics API with Doug S. and Chris W. -- due 2008-02-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:11:45 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/50
23:12:00 <Zakim> - +1.715.398.aabb
23:12:18 <MikeSmith> Zakim, +1.715.398.aabb is Laura
23:12:18 <Zakim> sorry, MikeSmith, I do not recognize a party named '+1.715.398.aabb'
23:12:41 <ChrisWilson> close action-50
23:12:41 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-50 Investigate separate mailing list on cavas/2d-graphics API with Doug S. and Chris W. closed
23:12:51 <ChrisWilson> (list has been created)
23:13:03 <ChrisWilson> action-52?
23:13:03 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-52 -- Anne van Kesteren to bring summary of where the Forms TF is and recommendation for action to HTML WG -- due 2008-02-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:13:03 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/52
23:13:11 <Zakim> + +1.715.398.aacc
23:13:27 <MikeSmith> Zakim, +1.715.398.aacc is Laura
23:13:27 <Zakim> +Laura; got it
23:13:42 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
23:13:42 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
23:14:18 <MikeSmith> ChrisWilson : there has been no follow-up to anne's summary e-mail
23:14:38 <MikeSmith> Zakim, unmute me
23:14:38 <Zakim> MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:14:42 <ChrisWilson> (that is, no further emails since the charter discussion)
23:15:25 <MikeSmith> ... his recommendation is that if nothing has happened by July 2008, then we just revert to the HTML WG owns forms in HTML and the Forms WG owns forms as a standalone
23:15:39 <ChrisWilson> This seems reasonable to all on the call
23:15:40 <MikeSmith> ChrisWilson : So I think his recommended course of action is good.
23:15:50 <ChrisWilson> close action-52
23:15:50 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-52 Bring summary of where the Forms TF is and recommendation for action to HTML WG closed
23:16:03 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
23:16:03 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
23:16:03 <ChrisWilson> action-53?
23:16:03 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-53 -- Dan Connolly to check for offline api stuff in WebAPI proposed charter -- due 2008-02-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:16:03 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/53
23:16:06 <anne> FWIW, Ian Hickson would like explicit consent from the Forms WG that they're ok with us working on forms again, as I understand it.
23:16:16 <Hixie> i don't mind
23:16:40 <MikeSmith> Zakim, unmute me
23:16:40 <Zakim> MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:16:40 <Hixie> i just want to make sure that i don't start integrating wf2 into html5 only later to be told that it needs to all be undone and turned into xforms
23:16:55 <Hixie> if the group decides that wf2 is fine and we're not going to try to use xforms, that works too
23:16:59 <Hixie> (the group = htmlwg)
23:17:30 <anne> k
23:17:47 <ChrisWilson> action: Chris Wilson to follow up with Forms WG to make sure they understand this plan of action by 5/1/2008
23:17:47 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-56 - Wilson to follow up with Forms WG to make sure they understand this plan of action by 5/1/2008 [on Chris Wilson - due 2008-04-03].
23:18:41 <ChrisWilson> noted.  I'll make sure that we follow up with them.
23:19:00 <ChrisWilson> we are trying to work together here, but we do want to eventually ship html5.  With forms.
23:19:50 <Hixie> indeed
23:20:10 <Hixie> certainly, since they are forms experts, their input can only make the spec better
23:20:24 <Hixie> it is unfortunate that they have not been forthcoming with feedback so far
23:20:35 <ChrisWilson> Mike: not going to have mention of offline apps in webapi charter
23:22:04 <ChrisWilson> I want this ot be discussed in the hypertext cg, so I'm keeping the action pending review.
23:22:18 <ChrisWilson> action-54?
23:22:18 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-54 -- Gregory Rosmaita to work with SteveF draft text for HTML 5 spec to require producers/authors to include @alt on img elements -- due 2008-04-02 -- PENDINGREVIEW
23:22:18 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/54
23:24:23 <ChrisWilson> Waiting on input from PF group.  Reopened, moved to 2 weeks from today.
23:24:52 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
23:24:52 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
23:25:33 <MikeSmith> Zakim, unmute me
23:25:33 <Zakim> MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:25:37 <ChrisWilson> can't seem to re-open the action, it stays as pending review.  Oh well.
23:26:09 <ChrisWilson> 3
23:26:13 <ChrisWilson> whoops.
23:26:44 <ChrisWilson> overdue action items: large number on Dan, moving them to next week.
23:26:50 <ChrisWilson> action-8?
23:26:50 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-8 -- Michael Cooper to discuss with PFWG role attribute vs aria attribute -- due 2008-02-21 -- OPEN
23:26:50 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/8
23:27:21 <ChrisWilson> I believe this is resolved, but needs a pointer to the spec.
23:27:49 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
23:27:49 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
23:27:53 <ChrisWilson> Gregory isn't around, so skipping action-23
23:28:02 <ChrisWilson> action-40?
23:28:02 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-40 -- Michael(tm) Smith to add links on HTML WG home page to mechanism for watching changes to the HTML5 spec -- due 2008-02-21 -- OPEN
23:28:02 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/40
23:28:07 <MikeSmith> Zakim, unmute me
23:28:07 <Zakim> MikeSmith should no longer be muted
23:28:57 <MikeSmith> action-40?
23:28:57 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-40 -- Michael(tm) Smith to add links on HTML WG home page to mechanism for watching changes to the HTML5 spec -- due 2008-04-03 -- OPEN
23:28:57 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/40
23:29:55 <ChrisWilson> motion to adjourn?
23:30:04 <ChrisWilson> any new business from IRC?
23:30:26 <ChrisWilson> no objections, ADJOURNED
23:30:41 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
23:30:44 <Zakim> -Laura
23:30:46 <Zakim> -MikeSmith
23:30:46 <Zakim> HTML_WG()7:00PM has ended
23:30:47 <Zakim> Attendees were [Microsoft], MikeSmith, +1.715.398.aaaa, +1.715.398.aabb, Laura
23:30:57 <ChrisWilson> Whoops, Microsoft was me
23:32:19 <Laura> Laura has joined #html-wg
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23:45:20 <gsnedders> Hi Mr Microsoft!
23:45:24 <gsnedders> :P
23:45:50 <MikeSmith> trackbot-ng, end meeting
23:45:50 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, list attendees
23:45:50 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot-ng, I don't know what conference this is
23:45:51 <trackbot-ng> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
23:45:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot-ng
23:45:52 <trackbot-ng> RRSAgent, bye
23:45:52 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-html-wg-actions.rdf :
23:45:52 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Chris Wilson to follow up with Forms WG to make sure they understand this plan of action by 5/1/2008 [1]
23:45:52 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/27-html-wg-irc#T23-17-47