IRC log of bpwg on 2008-03-26
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- 09:32:13 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #bpwg
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/03/26-bpwg-irc
- 09:32:25 [Kai]
- rrsagent, makes logs public
- 09:32:25 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'makes logs public', Kai. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 09:33:06 [Kai]
- Meeting: mobileOK Pro Task Force
- 09:33:48 [Kai]
- Chair: Kai
- 09:34:34 [manrique]
- I have done the call
- 09:35:09 [drooks]
- drooks has joined #bpwg
- 09:35:17 [Zakim]
- Zakim has joined #bpwg
- 09:36:16 [achuter]
- zakim, code?
- 09:36:17 [Zakim]
- sorry, achuter, I don't know what conference this is
- 09:36:29 [Kai]
- Zakim, code?
- 09:36:29 [Zakim]
- sorry, Kai, I don't know what conference this is
- 09:36:50 [DKA]
- zakim, what's the code?
- 09:36:50 [Zakim]
- sorry, DKA, I don't know what conference this is
- 09:37:06 [DKA]
- zakim, this is bppro
- 09:37:06 [Zakim]
- ok, DKA; that matches MWI_BPWG(BPPRO)5:30AM
- 09:37:19 [DKA]
- zakim, what's the code?
- 09:37:19 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 27776 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), DKA
- 09:37:27 [drooks]
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- 09:37:47 [Zakim]
- +??P6
- 09:37:54 [DKA]
- trackbot-ng, start meeting
- 09:37:56 [trackbot-ng]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 09:37:57 [achuter]
- zakim, ??P6
- 09:37:58 [Zakim]
- I don't understand '??P6', achuter
- 09:37:58 [trackbot-ng]
- Zakim, this will be BPWG
- 09:37:59 [trackbot-ng]
- Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
- 09:37:59 [trackbot-ng]
- Date: 26 March 2008
- 09:37:59 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot-ng, I see MWI_BPWG(BPPRO)5:30AM already started
- 09:38:00 [achuter]
- zakim, ??P6 is me
- 09:38:00 [Zakim]
- +achuter; got it
- 09:38:09 [DKA]
- zakim, who is here?
- 09:38:09 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +0496151aaaa, Carlos_Iglesias, +0783371aabb, +0774811aacc, achuter
- 09:38:11 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see drooks, Zakim, RRSAgent, Kai, DKA, achuter, manrique, francois, jo, trackbot-ng, dom
- 09:38:16 [DKA]
- zakim, aacc is DKA
- 09:38:16 [Zakim]
- +DKA; got it
- 09:39:05 [Kai]
- ScribeNick: drooks
- 09:39:32 [drooks]
- Kai: recaps last weeks face to face
- 09:39:37 [achuter]
- zakim, mute me
- 09:39:37 [Zakim]
- achuter should now be muted
- 09:39:46 [drooks]
- dave appologises again for not being able to make it
- 09:40:13 [drooks]
- kai: we made great progress in terms of making tests more repeatable
- 09:40:29 [DKA]
- got it
- 09:40:32 [achuter]
- zakim, unmute me
- 09:40:32 [Zakim]
- achuter should no longer be muted
- 09:40:33 [manrique]
- got it
- 09:40:46 [PhilA]
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- 09:41:32 [DKA]
- ??
- 09:41:43 [dom]
- grmpf
- 09:41:54 [drooks]
- Kai: can everyone read through updated MOK doc tests 4.1 - 4.12 to see what we have done so far
- 09:42:34 [drooks]
- Kai: today i want to divide up the rets of the tests and get everyone to try and find ways to make them more repeatable
- 09:44:17 [DKA]
- zakim, mute me
- 09:44:17 [Zakim]
- DKA should now be muted
- 09:44:31 [drooks]
- kai: lets look at 4.3 - avoid free text
- 09:44:53 [Kai]
- If the user is asked to fill in a form and if there is a finite number of possible values that the user could enter and those options are not presented either as a series of radio buttons, check boxes or a select menu: [FAIL].
- 09:45:00 [DKA]
- zakim, unmute me
- 09:45:00 [Zakim]
- DKA should no longer be muted
- 09:45:04 [PhilA]
- zakim, dka has PhilA
- 09:45:04 [Zakim]
- +PhilA; got it
- 09:46:05 [drooks]
- achuter: maybe we should create an examples document?
- 09:46:47 [drooks]
- kai: not sure creating a seperate doc will add any value
- 09:47:25 [drooks]
- achuter: we need to make sure the examples we provide are as complete as possible
- 09:47:43 [drooks]
- kai: yes, but we shouldn't forget that they are just examples
- 09:48:40 [PhilA]
- q+
- 09:49:25 [PhilA]
- q-
- 09:49:54 [drooks]
- phila: danger in giving examples as people will assume that the examples cover all aspects of the test
- 09:50:56 [drooks]
- kai: everyone is more than welcome to add examples if they believe they are of value
- 09:52:30 [drooks]
- phila: should we consider predictive text as a way to expliot deivce capabilities and avoid free text?
- 09:52:48 [achuter]
- q+
- 09:53:16 [drooks]
- drooks: can a Web site improve the predictive text capabilities of a device???
- 09:53:26 [Kai]
- ack alan
- 09:53:33 [Kai]
- ack ach
- 09:54:04 [drooks]
- kai: lets put this doscussion on hold
- 09:54:24 [achuter]
- q+
- 09:54:28 [drooks]
- kai: lets distribute remaining tests between us all to work over
- 09:55:15 [drooks]
- drooks: will take 4.15 - 4.20
- 09:55:49 [DKA]
- I will put my hand up but please chase me about them.
- 09:55:59 [PhilA]
- me to take 32 - 38
- 09:56:35 [drooks]
- drooks: i'll take more if needed
- 09:56:40 [achuter]
- Alan to take 10 to 15
- 09:56:42 [PhilA]
- Dan to take 27 - 31
- 09:57:33 [achuter]
- Alan to take 13, 14, 15, 21, 22
- 09:57:53 [Kai]
- I will take 23-26
- 09:59:33 [drooks]
- kai: i've started putting in a high level revision description
- 09:59:53 [drooks]
- kai: don't see need to go into more detail than that for now
- 10:00:13 [drooks]
- phila: change log required once we go to first public working draft
- 10:00:35 [drooks]
- drokos: lets make sure we're happy with everything before we publish it then :)
- 10:00:55 [drooks]
- s/drokos/drooks
- 10:03:01 [achuter]
- bye
- 10:03:04 [Zakim]
- -DKA
- 10:03:06 [manrique]
- bye
- 10:03:09 [Zakim]
- -achuter
- 10:03:13 [Zakim]
- - +0783371aabb
- 10:03:23 [Kai]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 10:03:23 [PhilA]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 10:03:26 [Zakim]
- -Carlos_Iglesias
- 10:03:35 [PhilA]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 10:03:35 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/26-bpwg-minutes.html PhilA
- 10:03:49 [Kai]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 10:04:43 [PhilA]
- chair: Kai
- 10:05:20 [Kai]
- Zakim, who is present
- 10:05:20 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is present', Kai
- 10:05:26 [PhilA]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 10:05:26 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/26-bpwg-minutes.html PhilA
- 10:05:50 [Kai]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 10:05:50 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been +0496151aaaa, Carlos_Iglesias, +0783371aabb, +0774811aacc, achuter, PhilA
- 10:06:09 [Kai]
- Zakim, list participants
- 10:06:09 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been +0496151aaaa, Carlos_Iglesias, +0783371aabb, +0774811aacc, achuter, PhilA
- 10:06:19 [PhilA]
- present+ Kai, DKA, Alan, Dave, Manrique, Carlos
- 10:06:28 [PhilA]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 10:06:28 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/26-bpwg-minutes.html PhilA
- 10:07:10 [PhilA]
- PhilA has left #bpwg
- 10:07:48 [Kai]
- present+ Kai, DKA, Alan, Dave, Manrique, Carlos
- 10:08:01 [Kai]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 10:08:01 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been +0496151aaaa, Carlos_Iglesias, +0783371aabb, +0774811aacc, achuter, PhilA
- 10:08:25 [Kai]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 10:08:25 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/26-bpwg-minutes.html Kai
- 10:08:27 [Zakim]
- disconnecting the lone participant, +0496151aaaa, in MWI_BPWG(BPPRO)5:30AM
- 10:08:32 [Zakim]
- MWI_BPWG(BPPRO)5:30AM has ended
- 10:08:33 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +0496151aaaa, Carlos_Iglesias, +0783371aabb, +0774811aacc, achuter, PhilA
- 10:08:53 [Kai]
- rrsagent, bye
- 10:08:53 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items