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14:57:04 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be DBWG
14:57:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng, I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM already started
14:57:05 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference
14:57:05 <trackbot-ng> Date: 25 March 2008
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14:59:57 <Zakim> +Yves
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15:01:47 <pauld> trackbot-ng, start meeting
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15:01:51 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be DBWG
15:01:51 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng, I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM already started
15:01:52 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference
15:01:52 <trackbot-ng> Date: 25 March 2008
15:02:01 <pauld> zakim, code
15:02:01 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', pauld
15:02:03 <pauld> zakim, code?
15:02:03 <Zakim> the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), pauld
15:02:46 <pauld> zakim, who is on the call?
15:02:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see MarkS, +0800328aaaa, Yves
15:03:02 <pauld> zakim, marks is really gcowe
15:03:02 <Zakim> +gcowe; got it
15:03:15 <pauld> zakim, aaaa is JonC
15:03:15 <Zakim> +JonC; got it
15:06:02 <pauld> yeah, still holding for an operator :(
15:07:00 <Zakim> -JonC
15:07:48 <gcowe> looks like i'm the only on this call!!
15:07:58 <JonC> I have had to dial in again as well
15:08:03 <pauld> zakim, who is on the call?
15:08:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see gcowe, Yves
15:08:05 <Yves> yep, let's all leave
15:08:09 <Zakim> -Yves
15:08:12 <gcowe> ok
15:08:16 <Zakim> WS_DBWG()10:00AM has ended
15:08:18 <Zakim> Attendees were +0800328aaaa, Yves, gcowe, JonC
15:08:24 <Zakim> ok, Yves; conference Team_(databinding)15:08Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1608Z; however, please note that capacity is now overbooked
15:08:40 <Zakim> Team_(databinding)15:08Z has now started
15:08:41 <Zakim> +Yves
15:09:39 <Zakim> +JonC
15:09:40 <Zakim> -JonC
15:09:40 <Zakim> +JonC
15:09:56 <Zakim> + +0791888aaaa
15:10:19 <pauld> zakim, who is on the call?
15:10:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yves, JonC, PaulD
15:11:04 <Zakim> +gcowe
15:11:48 <pauld> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Mar/0014.html
15:11:59 <pauld> Topic: Admistrivia
15:12:09 <pauld> minutes from 18th approved
15:15:22 <pauld> Topic: Publication
15:15:58 <pauld> gcowe: we shouldn't have directories with "edcopy" in the URI
15:16:08 <pauld> scribe: pauld
15:17:30 <pauld> pauld: we'll take a snapshot of the collection and testsuite report and publish when we go to the Director for PR
15:17:58 <pauld> pauld: believe I have completed the editing for Last Call
15:18:31 <pauld> jonc: what about "Block Default"? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Mar/0015.html
15:19:01 <pauld> pauld: also George points out that NonIdentifierPattern is still basic
15:19:26 <pauld> pauld: document here: http://localhost/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/basic/basic.html
15:21:09 <pauld> yves: we need to highlight moving directly to PR in the status section
15:21:12 <pauld> pauld: done!
15:21:34 <pauld> Topic: blockDefault
15:22:40 <pauld> jonc: it's an innocuous default pattern
15:24:07 <pauld> pauld: we have a statement in the status section about not introducing new elements and attributes 
15:24:23 <pauld> pauld: have you tested them? "./@blockDefault and not(./@blockDefault)" looks strange
15:26:18 <pauld> gcowe: happy with the first option, seems an unusual thing to do
15:26:45 <pauld> pauld: there is precedence, e.g nillable
15:28:08 <pauld> jonc: and we have others globalComplexTypeBlock and globalElementBlock
15:30:49 <pauld> pauld: this seems better ./xs:element[@block=""]/(@block)
15:34:51 <pauld> gcowe: blockDefault and finalDefault have been skipped on all of the tools
15:35:19 <pauld> pauld: can we move these to advanced?
15:35:30 <pauld> gcowe: we don't have much evidence
15:36:07 <pauld> jonc: doesn't seem dangerous, but without testing ..
15:36:34 <pauld> gcowe: we don't use it, and my guess is if we test this it'll be advanced
15:39:35 <pauld> RESOLUTION: move GlobalComplexTypeBlock, GlobalElementFinal, GlobalElementBlock to advanced
15:40:39 <pauld> Topic: NonIdentifierName
15:40:55 <pauld> gcowe: we're hitting this due to names longer than 32
15:41:07 <pauld> pauld: we discussed this under ISSUE-10
15:41:26 <pauld> gcowe: we don't have very good examples in this area
15:42:03 <pauld> pauld: we should add some more tests
15:43:45 <pauld> pauld: we could split the pattern to be "symbolic name" and "long symbolic name"
15:44:30 <gcowe> ISSUE 10 discussed in this thread
15:44:37 <gcowe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Sep/0002.html
15:45:47 <pauld> gcowe: 31 is the magic number
15:46:46 <pauld> pauld: worried, because we're sure non-ASCII names is an issue, but the length?
15:47:46 <pauld> pauld: let's create some examples
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15:49:56 <pauld> gcowe: worried by the number of examples in this area
15:50:11 <pauld> pauld: we could create a little test suite for this alone
15:52:22 <pauld> gcowe: we've tried long names in C# and Java without issues, but obviously C might ..
15:52:32 <pauld> pauld: OK we'll work on this
15:53:36 <pauld> Topic: Detection Service
15:54:09 <pauld> gcowe: thinking about adding highlighting, also been thinking about rerunning test suite
15:55:56 <pauld> Topic: Last Call
15:56:14 <pauld> pauld: we're mostly done
15:56:24 <pauld> yves: links to Test Suite and Collection?
15:56:42 <pauld> pauld: will do son
15:56:46 <pauld> s/son/so/
15:57:59 <pauld> ADJOURNED
15:58:24 <Zakim> -PaulD
15:58:25 <Zakim> -JonC
15:58:25 <Zakim> -Yves
15:58:27 <pauld> pauld: pickup in two weeks
15:58:29 <Zakim> -gcowe
15:58:30 <Zakim> Team_(databinding)15:08Z has ended
15:58:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves, JonC, +0791888aaaa, PaulD, gcowe
15:58:35 <pauld> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:58:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/25-databinding-minutes.html pauld
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