IRC log of xmlsec on 2008-02-26
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
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- ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 53 minutes
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- Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 26 February 2008
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- Testy testy testy test.... Plz ignore
- 13:44:00 [tlr]
- so you're in a testy mood today?
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- http://demotivators.com/mis24x30prin.html
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- zakim, who is here?
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- T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fjh
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- On IRC I see fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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- Regrets: Juan Carlos Cruellas, Konrad Lanz, Shivaram Mysore
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- Chair: Frederick Hirsch
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- Scribe: Sean Mullan
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0030.html
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- Zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), PHB
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- T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
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- + +1.781.306.aaaa
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- zakim, call thomas-781
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- ok, tlr; the call is being made
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- +Thomas
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- +fjh
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- zakim, aaaa is PHB
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- +PHB; got it
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- + +1.978.244.aabb
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- zakim, aabb is jwray
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- +jwray; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray
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- On IRC I see jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray
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- On IRC I see jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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- +??P12
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- zakim, ??P12 is rob
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- +rob; got it
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- +Sean_Mullen
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- + +aacc
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- + +1.512.401.aadd
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, +aacc, +1.512.401.aadd
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- On IRC I see brich, sean, jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
- 14:00:12 [sean]
- * yes
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- zakim, aacc is DonEastlake
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- +DonEastlake; got it
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- zakim, aadd is brich
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- +brich; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, DonEastlake, brich
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- On IRC I see brich, sean, jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
- 14:00:50 [sean]
- TOPIC: Administrivia
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- rob is scribe next week
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- fjh: suggest cancelling calls 3/11 and 3/25
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- +1
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- +1
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- RESOLUTION: cancel calls on 3/11 and 3/25
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- +Ed_Simon
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- +Hal_Lockhart
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0005.html
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- TOPIC: chartering
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- fjh: working on draft charter
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- q+
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- ack tlr
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/02/xmlsec-charter.html
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- + +1.650.506.aaee
- 14:04:14 [sean]
- tlr: draft charter will go into SE review soon now, maybe a few minor edits
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- s/SE/AC/
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- zakim, aaee is pdatta
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- +pdatta; got it
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- tlr has changed the topic to: March 11, March 25 cancelled.
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-xmlsec-minutes.html
- 14:05:33 [sean]
- fjh: can we approve minutes?
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- fjh:
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- RESOLUTION: February 19 minutes approved
- 14:06:18 [tlr]
- topic: test case doc
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- TOPIC: Test case doc
- 14:06:24 [fjh]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html
- 14:06:35 [tlr]
- sorry, no progress on that one yet
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- ScribeNick: tlr
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- topic: Best Practices
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- fjh: not essential, nice to have
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- ... could pull sth together ..
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- ... might put sth on list if time ...
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- ... calls next week, in two weeks after that ...
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- ... need to decide that we're either doing or not doing it ...
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- ... in reality, new group to start in mid-Mau ...
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- s/Mau/May/
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- ... at least that's my anticipation ...
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- ... this one might go on a tad beyond end of March ...
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- ... if we want to, could use some of that time ...
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- q+
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- ack hal
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- tlr: should take up overtime vs extension question at transition call
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- fjh: discussed that at CG
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- hal: do we expect more people -- slot?
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- fjh: open to suggestions
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- ... don't know who else would join ...
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- q+
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- hal: time slot unattractive for west coast
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- fjh: assuming people here interested in continuing
- 14:10:32 [sean]
- tlr: suggest time slot for working group to decide
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- fjh: don't erase slot from calendars
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- hal: not much competition
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- yes, i am back
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- ScribeNick: sean
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- fjh: make progress on best practices
- 14:11:28 [sean]
- .. not a showstopper if not
- 14:11:30 [tlr]
- topic: action item review
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- ACTION-145?
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- ACTION-145 -- Sean Mullan to look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache -- due 2008-02-19 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Group/track/actions/145
- 14:12:24 [tlr]
- sean: Apache is happy to include test cases under W3C document license.
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- ACTION-145 closed
- 14:13:34 [tlr]
- fjh: sean, can you send a quick e-mail?
- 14:13:40 [tlr]
- sean: don't want to speak on behalf of legal folks
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- fjh: maybe just say the action is done, and here's ther esult
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- trackbot-ng, close ACTION-145
- 14:14:04 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-145 Look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache closed
- 14:14:06 [tlr]
- ACTION-147 continued
- 14:14:08 [sean]
- ACTION 147 still open
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- ACTION-148 continued
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- TOPIC: any other business
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- tlr: check in with donald about dsig core PR
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- tlr: maybe minor changes then proposed rec
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- tlr: donald, what is your timeline?
- 14:15:43 [sean]
- donald: reformatting not too bad
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- q+
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- donald: polished internet draft probably by end of March
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- fjh: what else besides formatting?
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- donald: ietf last call
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- q+
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- donald: meeting week of march 10, check if we have a sponsor
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- donald: they might have changes but don't forsee technical changes
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- .... then 4 week last call
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- ... push ahead, can't predict exactly how long
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- ... unlikely large problems will arise
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- 9-14 March
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- http://www.ietf.org/meetings/71-IETF.html
- 14:20:29 [sean]
- fjh: how should we track this?
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- q-
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- donald: just mechanical, will report back on progress
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- sean: is this the "revised algorithm URIs" RFC
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- donald: tried to keep that draft open for a while
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- ... getting some complaints ...
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- ... this conversation was about dsig-core ...
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- fjh: original document was joint effort
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- ... there were two publications ...
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- don: there were actually two publications in the IETF
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- q+
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- ... draft standard, one minor feature taken out ...
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- donald: did an additional version of alg uri draft
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- ... will spina new draft and notify people when i do that
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- ... inclined to get it done sooner rather than later
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- q-
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- fjh: anything else?
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- ... hal where do we stand with best practices?
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- hal: try to get something out by mid to late march
- 14:26:32 [sean]
- adjourned
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- -Hal_Lockhart
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- -PHB
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- -Thomas
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- -brich
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- -rob
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- -pdatta
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- -DonEastlake
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- -Ed_Simon
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- -jwray
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- rrsagent, make minutes public
- 14:27:09 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', fjh. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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- RRSAgent, make log public
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- RRSAgent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-minutes.html fjh
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see fjh, Sean_Mullen
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- On IRC I see EdS, hal, sean, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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- RRSAgent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-minutes.html fjh
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- Present: Ed Simon, Hal, Sean, Frederick, PHB, Rob
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- Present: Ed Simon, Hal, Sean, Frederick, PHB, Rob, Donald Eastlake, Bruce Rich, Thomas, Pratik, John Wray
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- RRSAgent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-minutes.html fjh
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- -Sean_Mullen
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- -fjh
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- T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.781.306.aaaa, Thomas, fjh, PHB, +1.978.244.aabb, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, +aacc, +1.512.401.aadd, DonEastlake, brich, Ed_Simon, Hal_Lockhart, +1.650.506.aaee,
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- ... pdatta
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- zakim, bye
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