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13:07:16 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
13:07:16 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 53 minutes
13:07:17 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
13:07:17 <trackbot-ng> Date: 26 February 2008
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13:38:57 <PHB> Testy testy testy test.... Plz ignore
13:44:00 <tlr> so you're in a testy mood today?
13:44:02 <tlr> http://demotivators.com/mis24x30prin.html
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13:45:33 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:45:33 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fjh
13:45:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:46:12 <fjh> Regrets: Juan Carlos Cruellas, Konrad Lanz, Shivaram Mysore
13:46:25 <fjh> Chair: Frederick Hirsch
13:46:34 <fjh> Scribe: Sean Mullan
13:47:13 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0030.html
13:50:11 <PHB> Zakim, code?
13:50:11 <Zakim> the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), PHB
13:50:47 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
13:50:55 <Zakim> + +1.781.306.aaaa
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13:54:10 <tlr> zakim, call thomas-781
13:54:10 <Zakim> ok, tlr; the call is being made
13:54:12 <Zakim> +Thomas
13:54:16 <Zakim> +fjh
13:54:33 <tlr> zakim, aaaa is PHB
13:54:33 <Zakim> +PHB; got it
13:55:22 <Zakim> + +1.978.244.aabb
13:55:41 <jwray> zakim, aabb is jwray
13:55:41 <Zakim> +jwray; got it
13:56:26 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:56:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray
13:56:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:57:14 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:57:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray
13:57:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:57:38 <Zakim> +??P12
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13:58:34 <tlr> zakim, ??P12 is rob
13:58:34 <Zakim> +rob; got it
13:59:11 <Zakim> +Sean_Mullen
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13:59:47 <Zakim> + +aacc
13:59:48 <Zakim> + +1.512.401.aadd
13:59:57 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:59:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, +aacc, +1.512.401.aadd
14:00:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see brich, sean, jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:00:12 <sean> * yes
14:00:14 <tlr> zakim, aacc is DonEastlake
14:00:14 <Zakim> +DonEastlake; got it
14:00:16 <brich> zakim, aadd is brich
14:00:16 <Zakim> +brich; got it
14:00:38 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:00:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, DonEastlake, brich
14:00:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see brich, sean, jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:00:50 <sean> TOPIC: Administrivia
14:01:17 <sean> rob is scribe next week
14:01:36 <sean> fjh: suggest cancelling calls 3/11 and 3/25
14:01:47 <brich> +1
14:01:52 <tlr> +1
14:02:09 <sean> RESOLUTION: cancel calls on 3/11 and 3/25
14:02:24 <Zakim> +Ed_Simon
14:02:47 <Zakim> +Hal_Lockhart
14:02:49 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0005.html
14:03:21 <sean> TOPIC: chartering
14:03:30 <sean> fjh: working on draft charter
14:03:31 <tlr> q+
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14:03:44 <fjh> ack tlr
14:04:03 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2008/02/xmlsec-charter.html
14:04:05 <Zakim> + +1.650.506.aaee
14:04:14 <sean> tlr: draft charter will go into SE review soon now, maybe a few minor edits
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14:04:25 <tlr> s/SE/AC/
14:04:30 <tlr> zakim, aaee is pdatta
14:04:30 <Zakim> +pdatta; got it
14:04:39 <tlr> tlr has changed the topic to: March 11, March 25 cancelled.
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14:05:21 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-xmlsec-minutes.html
14:05:33 <sean> fjh: can we approve minutes?
14:05:36 <sean> fjh:
14:06:04 <sean> RESOLUTION: February 19 minutes approved
14:06:18 <tlr> topic: test case doc
14:06:19 <sean> TOPIC: Test case doc
14:06:24 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html
14:06:35 <tlr> sorry, no progress on that one yet 
14:06:57 <tlr> ScribeNick: tlr
14:07:05 <tlr> topic: Best Practices
14:07:16 <tlr> fjh: not essential, nice to have
14:07:20 <tlr> ... could pull sth together ..
14:07:26 <tlr> ... might put sth on list if time ...
14:07:32 <tlr> ... calls next week, in two weeks after that ...
14:07:43 <tlr> ... need to decide that we're either doing or not doing it ...
14:07:59 <tlr> ... in reality, new group to start in mid-Mau ...
14:08:02 <tlr> s/Mau/May/
14:08:09 <tlr> ... at least that's my anticipation ...
14:08:19 <tlr> ... this one might go on a tad beyond end of March ...
14:08:26 <tlr> ... if we want to, could use some of that time ...
14:09:07 <hal> q+
14:09:17 <fjh> ack hal
14:09:27 <tlr> tlr: should take up overtime vs extension question at transition call
14:09:34 <tlr> fjh: discussed that at CG
14:09:43 <tlr> hal: do we expect more people -- slot?
14:09:50 <tlr> fjh: open to suggestions
14:09:56 <tlr> ... don't know who else would join ...
14:09:57 <tlr> q+
14:10:07 <tlr> hal: time slot unattractive for west coast
14:10:16 <tlr> fjh: assuming people here interested in continuing
14:10:32 <sean> tlr: suggest time slot for working group to decide
14:10:43 <tlr> fjh: don't erase slot from calendars
14:10:46 <tlr> hal: not much competition
14:11:06 <sean> yes, i am back
14:11:11 <tlr> ScribeNick: sean
14:11:22 <sean> fjh: make progress on best practices
14:11:28 <sean> .. not a showstopper if not
14:11:30 <tlr> topic: action item review
14:11:48 <tlr> ACTION-145?
14:11:49 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-145 -- Sean Mullan to look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache -- due 2008-02-19 -- OPEN
14:11:49 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Group/track/actions/145
14:12:24 <tlr> sean: Apache is happy to include test cases under W3C document license.
14:12:47 <tlr> ACTION-145 closed
14:13:34 <tlr> fjh: sean, can you send a quick e-mail?
14:13:40 <tlr> sean: don't want to speak on behalf of legal folks
14:14:02 <tlr> fjh: maybe just say the action is done, and here's ther esult
14:14:04 <tlr> trackbot-ng, close ACTION-145
14:14:04 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-145 Look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache closed
14:14:06 <tlr> ACTION-147 continued
14:14:08 <sean> ACTION 147 still open
14:14:10 <tlr> ACTION-148 continued
14:14:22 <sean> TOPIC: any other business
14:14:36 <sean> tlr: check in with donald about dsig core PR
14:15:10 <sean> tlr: maybe minor changes then proposed rec
14:15:32 <sean> tlr: donald, what is your timeline?
14:15:43 <sean> donald: reformatting not too bad
14:16:01 <sean> q+
14:16:17 <sean> donald: polished internet draft probably by end of March
14:16:33 <sean> fjh: what else besides formatting?
14:16:43 <sean> donald: ietf last call
14:16:52 <tlr> q+
14:16:57 <sean> donald: meeting week of march 10, check if we have a sponsor
14:17:19 <sean> donald: they might have changes but don't forsee technical changes
14:17:29 <sean>  .... then 4 week last call
14:17:45 <sean> ... push ahead, can't predict exactly how long
14:17:59 <sean> ... unlikely large problems will arise
14:18:05 <tlr> 9-14 March
14:18:08 <tlr> http://www.ietf.org/meetings/71-IETF.html
14:20:29 <sean> fjh: how should we track this?
14:20:33 <tlr> q-
14:20:48 <sean> donald: just mechanical, will report back on progress
14:21:24 <tlr> sean: is this the "revised algorithm URIs" RFC
14:21:30 <tlr> donald: tried to keep that draft open for a while
14:21:33 <tlr> ... getting some complaints ...
14:21:44 <tlr> ... this conversation was about dsig-core ...
14:21:50 <tlr> fjh: original document was joint effort
14:21:58 <tlr> ... there were two publications ...
14:22:04 <tlr> don: there were actually two publications in the IETF
14:22:29 <sean>  q+
14:22:32 <tlr> ... draft standard, one minor feature taken out ...
14:22:58 <sean> donald: did an additional version of alg uri draft
14:23:11 <sean> ... will spina new draft and notify people when i do that
14:23:41 <sean> ... inclined to get it done sooner rather than later
14:25:13 <sean> q-
14:25:52 <sean> fjh: anything else?
14:26:07 <sean>  ... hal where do we stand with best practices?
14:26:20 <sean> hal: try to get something out by mid  to late march
14:26:32 <sean> adjourned
14:26:45 <Zakim> -Hal_Lockhart
14:26:46 <Zakim> -PHB
14:26:48 <Zakim> -Thomas
14:26:49 <Zakim> -brich
14:26:50 <Zakim> -rob
14:26:52 <Zakim> -pdatta
14:26:57 <Zakim> -DonEastlake
14:26:59 <Zakim> -Ed_Simon
14:27:00 <Zakim> -jwray
14:27:09 <fjh> rrsagent, make minutes public
14:27:09 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', fjh.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:28:02 <fjh> RRSAgent, make log public
14:28:13 <fjh> RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:28:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-minutes.html fjh
14:28:56 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:28:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, Sean_Mullen
14:28:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see EdS, hal, sean, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:29:09 <fjh> RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:29:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-minutes.html fjh
14:29:44 <fjh> Present: Ed Simon, Hal, Sean, Frederick, PHB, Rob
14:30:26 <fjh> Present: Ed Simon, Hal, Sean, Frederick, PHB, Rob, Donald Eastlake, Bruce Rich, Thomas, Pratik, John Wray
14:30:47 <fjh> RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:30:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-minutes.html fjh
14:31:21 <Zakim> -Sean_Mullen
14:31:22 <Zakim> -fjh
14:31:23 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
14:31:24 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.781.306.aaaa, Thomas, fjh, PHB, +1.978.244.aabb, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, +aacc, +1.512.401.aadd, DonEastlake, brich, Ed_Simon, Hal_Lockhart, +1.650.506.aaee,
14:31:27 <Zakim> ... pdatta
14:31:52 <fjh> zakim, bye
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