IRC log of xmlsec on 2008-02-26

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logging to
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
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ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 53 minutes
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Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 26 February 2008
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Testy testy testy test.... Plz ignore
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so you're in a testy mood today?
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zakim, who is here?
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T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fjh
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On IRC I see fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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Regrets: Juan Carlos Cruellas, Konrad Lanz, Shivaram Mysore
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Chair: Frederick Hirsch
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Scribe: Sean Mullan
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13:50:11 [PHB]
Zakim, code?
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the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+ tel:+44.117.370.6152), PHB
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T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
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+ +1.781.306.aaaa
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zakim, call thomas-781
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ok, tlr; the call is being made
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zakim, aaaa is PHB
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+PHB; got it
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+ +1.978.244.aabb
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zakim, aabb is jwray
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+jwray; got it
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray
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On IRC I see jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray
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On IRC I see jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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zakim, ??P12 is rob
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+rob; got it
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+ +aacc
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+ +1.512.401.aadd
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, +aacc, +1.512.401.aadd
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On IRC I see brich, sean, jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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* yes
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zakim, aacc is DonEastlake
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+DonEastlake; got it
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zakim, aadd is brich
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+brich; got it
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zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see PHB, Thomas, fjh, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, DonEastlake, brich
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On IRC I see brich, sean, jwray, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:00:50 [sean]
TOPIC: Administrivia
14:01:17 [sean]
rob is scribe next week
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fjh: suggest cancelling calls 3/11 and 3/25
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RESOLUTION: cancel calls on 3/11 and 3/25
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TOPIC: chartering
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fjh: working on draft charter
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ack tlr
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+ +1.650.506.aaee
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tlr: draft charter will go into SE review soon now, maybe a few minor edits
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zakim, aaee is pdatta
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+pdatta; got it
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tlr has changed the topic to: March 11, March 25 cancelled.
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fjh: can we approve minutes?
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RESOLUTION: February 19 minutes approved
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topic: test case doc
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TOPIC: Test case doc
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sorry, no progress on that one yet
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ScribeNick: tlr
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topic: Best Practices
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fjh: not essential, nice to have
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... could pull sth together ..
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... might put sth on list if time ...
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... calls next week, in two weeks after that ...
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... need to decide that we're either doing or not doing it ...
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... in reality, new group to start in mid-Mau ...
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... at least that's my anticipation ...
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... this one might go on a tad beyond end of March ...
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... if we want to, could use some of that time ...
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ack hal
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tlr: should take up overtime vs extension question at transition call
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fjh: discussed that at CG
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hal: do we expect more people -- slot?
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fjh: open to suggestions
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... don't know who else would join ...
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hal: time slot unattractive for west coast
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fjh: assuming people here interested in continuing
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tlr: suggest time slot for working group to decide
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fjh: don't erase slot from calendars
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hal: not much competition
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yes, i am back
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ScribeNick: sean
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fjh: make progress on best practices
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.. not a showstopper if not
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topic: action item review
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ACTION-145 -- Sean Mullan to look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache -- due 2008-02-19 -- OPEN
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14:12:24 [tlr]
sean: Apache is happy to include test cases under W3C document license.
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ACTION-145 closed
14:13:34 [tlr]
fjh: sean, can you send a quick e-mail?
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sean: don't want to speak on behalf of legal folks
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fjh: maybe just say the action is done, and here's ther esult
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trackbot-ng, close ACTION-145
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ACTION-145 Look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache closed
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ACTION-147 continued
14:14:08 [sean]
ACTION 147 still open
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ACTION-148 continued
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TOPIC: any other business
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tlr: check in with donald about dsig core PR
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tlr: maybe minor changes then proposed rec
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tlr: donald, what is your timeline?
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donald: reformatting not too bad
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donald: polished internet draft probably by end of March
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fjh: what else besides formatting?
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donald: ietf last call
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14:16:57 [sean]
donald: meeting week of march 10, check if we have a sponsor
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donald: they might have changes but don't forsee technical changes
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.... then 4 week last call
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... push ahead, can't predict exactly how long
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... unlikely large problems will arise
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9-14 March
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14:20:29 [sean]
fjh: how should we track this?
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14:20:48 [sean]
donald: just mechanical, will report back on progress
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sean: is this the "revised algorithm URIs" RFC
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donald: tried to keep that draft open for a while
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... getting some complaints ...
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... this conversation was about dsig-core ...
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fjh: original document was joint effort
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... there were two publications ...
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don: there were actually two publications in the IETF
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14:22:32 [tlr]
... draft standard, one minor feature taken out ...
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donald: did an additional version of alg uri draft
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... will spina new draft and notify people when i do that
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... inclined to get it done sooner rather than later
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fjh: anything else?
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... hal where do we stand with best practices?
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hal: try to get something out by mid to late march
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14:27:09 [fjh]
rrsagent, make minutes public
14:27:09 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', fjh. Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:28:02 [fjh]
RRSAgent, make log public
14:28:13 [fjh]
RRSAgent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate fjh
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zakim, who is here?
14:28:56 [Zakim]
On the phone I see fjh, Sean_Mullen
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On IRC I see EdS, hal, sean, fjh, PHB, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
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RRSAgent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate fjh
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Present: Ed Simon, Hal, Sean, Frederick, PHB, Rob
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Present: Ed Simon, Hal, Sean, Frederick, PHB, Rob, Donald Eastlake, Bruce Rich, Thomas, Pratik, John Wray
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RRSAgent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate fjh
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T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +1.781.306.aaaa, Thomas, fjh, PHB, +1.978.244.aabb, jwray, rob, Sean_Mullen, +aacc, +1.512.401.aadd, DonEastlake, brich, Ed_Simon, Hal_Lockhart, +1.650.506.aaee,
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... pdatta
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zakim, bye
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